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[LGilmore]

"attention is a lot lower"

What you may need to admit here was your attention was alot lower..no?

This stuff made the news.. maybe not fox or some of the.. for the lack of a better word.."offbeat" sources you go to for news... but it was there through regular media sources for all of america. Nightly news stuff..

Hilliary was doing the same thing, although she didn't look as desparte when she did it and the democratic party wasn't as tolerant of the false accusations...no body in her audiences was calling him traitor or shouting to kill him...

At this point in history I have to wonder if someone on the "christain right" is going to because of these messages help create another national holiday as we have for dr. king.

For this stuff to be coming from the canidates themselves and their MCs is reckless and crass..

It's one thing for internet blogers and posters to imply or claim something, it's another thing for the vp and presidential canidate to do the same..

I think Biden hit it on the head as he knows McCain very well.."john can't look somebody in the eye when he does these attacks because he doesn't believe it himself."

We'll see how the next debate goes.. Let's see if McC really believes the stuff he's been saying. Let McC ask OB to his face eye to eye... fair enough?

[Alpedhuez55]

Originally Posted by moonlightandmargaritas

I was under the impression that most of the Democratic primaries had record turnout?

But it is still not as large as the turnout for a general election.

[Winter]

Originally Posted by moonlightandmargaritas

I was under the impression that most of the Democratic primaries had record turnout?

That is true and should be worrisome for McCain. Not controlling but worrisome. I dont know how to size it and dont think anyone else does yet. A complicating factor is that many turned out to help Hillary beat Obama. Whether they feel gung ho or deflated at this point, I don't know.
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Originally Posted by Alpedhuez55

Actually, I think a "strong working relationship with a domestic terrorist" is a better description than "palling around with a terrorist"

As for the eight year old, the attitudes have not changed for Ayers. And he has had a strong influence Obama's political career.

I am tiring of this 8 year old crapola defense.

Obama was not 8 years old when he sat in Ayers living room and launched his political career was he. Nor was he 8 years old when they worked together at Anneberg Foundation, nor was he 8 years old when scumbag, traitor, killer of Americans, bomber of the Capitol Ayers said that he wished that he had done more when asked about his bombings right after 9/11.

Nor was Obomber 8 years when he wrote the forward to the book that Ayers wrote.
WAS HE?

Just where the frig am I going wrong here? Lay it on me.

If McCain served on a board and a foundation with David Duke and wrote a forward to his book do you think it would be dismissed as "guilt by association" by the left. Again, where am I going wrong here?

It's bullfeathers. Obomber has pervasive history of far, far, far left associations. Wright, Father Flager, all of these saudi nuts in the background, Louis Farrakan, his spiritual advisor's trips to Cuban and Libya, and the simple fact that he is the most left wing Senator in the Senate. And then all the Acorn stuff. Too much to list. A far, far, left wing guy.

Winter

[Alpedhuez55]

Originally Posted by Winter

That is true and should be worrisome for McCain. Not controlling but worrisome. I dont know how to size it and dont think anyone else does yet. A complicating factor is that many turned out to help Hillary beat Obama. Whether they feel gung ho or deflated at this point, I don't know.

A little worrisome...but remember, the republican Primaries were settled pretty quickly, the Democrats went til the end. So independents in the later primaries who may have went into the Republican Primary, went to the Democratic Primary instead. That could have inflated those numbers a little.

[padthaiforlunch]

And you continue to ignore and not address McCain's associations.

Originally Posted by Winter

That is true and should be worrisome for McCain. Not controlling but worrisome. I dont know how to size it and dont think anyone else does yet. A complicating factor is that many turned out to help Hillary beat Obama. Whether they feel gung ho or deflated at this point, I don't know.
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I am tiring of this 8 year old crapola defense.

Obama was not 8 years old when he sat in Ayers living room and launched his political career was he. Nor was he 8 years old when they worked together at Anneberg Foundation, nor was he 8 years old when scumbag, traitor, killer of Americans, bomber of the Capitol Ayers said that he wished that he had done more when asked about his bombings right after 9/11.

Nor was Obomber 8 years when he wrote the forward to the book that Ayers wrote.
WAS HE?

Just where the frig am I going wrong here? Lay it on me.

If McCain served on a board and a foundation with David Duke and wrote a forward to his book do you think it would be dismissed as "guilt by association" by the left. Again, where am I going wrong here?

It's bullfeathers. Obomber has pervasive history of far, far, far left associations. Wright, Father Flager, all of these saudi nuts in the background, Louis Farrakan, his spiritual advisor's trips to Cuban and Libya, and the simple fact that he is the most left wing Senator in the Senate. And then all the Acorn stuff. Too much to list. A far, far, left wing guy.

Winter

[Paradigm]

Originally Posted by padthaiforlunch

And you continue to ignore and not address McCain's associations.

He doesnt have to because McCain's associations are pro American and Obama's are anti American

[Mr. Bill]

Ya gotta love it - Joe SixPack speaks up:

Breitbart.tv » ‘I’m Mad! I’m Really Mad!’: Voter at McCain Rally Tees Off on ‘Socialist’ Dems

[NewHealthStrategies]

Originally Posted by padthaiforlunch

McCain has ties to Nazis, anti-semites, right-wing death squads and holocaust deniers.

Sincere qeustion Padthaiforlunch...... you really and honestly compare these candidates and have Obama coming out on top in the "assocation" blame game?

[padthaiforlunch]

Originally Posted by NewHealthStrategies

Sincere qeustion Padthaiforlunch...... you really and honestly compare these candidates and have Obama coming out on top in the "assocation" blame game?

Fact is that McCain was on the board of an extremist organization that had ties to Nazis and right-wing death squads, an he let them use his name on their letterhead for six years.

My point is that guilt by association cuts both ways. We are all separated by six degrees.

No one comes out on top.

[Winter]

Originally Posted by Charpress

It isn't the terrorist thing that has a chance on sinking Obama, it's the money thing. It's always the money thing.

It's the patriotism thing for many. That is going to be the bradley effect, if any. People who say they will vote for Obama will chicken out at the last minute out of fear that he lives in a different American than many of us. Nation Islam, Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, wife who hates America unless her husband is in charge, Hollywood, Citizen of the World etc. We can get cynical about money, but the patriotism piece still preys on peoples minds bigtime.
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Originally Posted by padthaiforlunch

And you continue to ignore and not address McCain's associations.

It is completely fair for the press and others to question McCain at length for any and all of his associations. Get it all out there and let the people decide. Of course, it is a double-edged sword because the more McCain is questioned, the more it paves the way to ask more and more questions about Obama. McCain is okay going down that road, especially if people want to work the Keating thing some more, because the dems arent very keen on a process of looking at past associations.

But in regard to McCain, go for it. Let the folks decide.

[LGilmore]

I think right now people are starting to wonder who the next FDR will be....

Hoover er em Bush spoke on the telie this morning and well he's going to mark his mark in history fer sure... A useless war, a useless economy, a worthless dollar....

All the fixes for the market won't hit until after the elections and may not pull things out for a while...

The election is over. The market ended it.

[fostever]

Originally Posted by healthagent

My money's going in a coffee can buried in the back yard for the next years and I have my eye on a great condo in Tijuana.

So your gonna move IHIAA out of the country? Stay away from the donkey show, I hear it's really nasty.

[Charpress]

Originally Posted by LGilmore

The election is over. The market ended it.

That would be a shame if it turns out to be true. FDR took a 3 year depression and turned it into a 12 year depression with his socialist agenda.

We never learn.

[fostever]

Originally Posted by padthaiforlunch

Fact is that McCain was on the board of an extremist organization that had ties to Nazis and right-wing death squads, an he let them use his name on their letterhead for six years.

My point is that guilt by association cuts both ways. We are all separated by six degrees.

No one comes out on top.

What group are you talking about? Please provide some details instead of passing on gossip.

[somarco]

FDR took a 3 year depression and turned it into a 12 year depression with his socialist agenda.

WWII is what bailed us out of the depression. Approaching full employment with enlistee's and Ford factory's making tanks.