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Originally Posted by insuranceexec Really! If I recall the USPS just announced it's first layoffs since its inception. Next step for USPS: Layoffs? - Federal ...


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Old 03-02-2009, 02:13 PM   #21
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Really! If I recall the USPS just announced it's first layoffs since its inception.

Next step for USPS: Layoffs? - Federal news, government operations, agency management, pay & benefits - FederalTimes.com

What is your definition of recession proof?

We may very shortly be needing things that are (Obama-caused) Depression Proof.

Socialism has failed everytime it has been tried and we are learning first hand.
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Old 03-02-2009, 03:55 PM   #22
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It is interesting that the only unbiased method to determine the shape of the economy is the market, and as I write this the DJ is down 301 points today.

We have idiots running our country who think a depression is fine if it allows them to get their agenda through while everyone is asleep. That is exactly what FDR did to get his anti-business agenda through. That is also exactly what prolonged the Depression (the first one) six year beyond where it should have ended.

Obama telegraphed what he was going to do, but the average voter in this country is incredible stupid, lazy, greedy and naive.
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Originally Posted by Charpress View Post
It is interesting that the only unbiased method to determine the shape of the economy is the market, and as I write this the DJ is down 301 points today.

We have idiots running our country who think a depression is fine if it allows them to get their agenda through while everyone is asleep. That is exactly what FDR did to get his anti-business agenda through. That is also exactly what prolonged the Depression (the first one) six year beyond where it should have ended.

Obama telegraphed what he was going to do, but the average voter in this country is incredible stupid, lazy, greedy and naive.
You hit the nail on the head. Unless the GOP gets back to Reagan and wins huge majorities in House and Senate in 2010 - this disaster will last for decades and America will not be the same in a few short years. ACORN/SEIU will work to insure the GOP will not win what it needs to turn away from Mugabe/Chavez destruction of the USA.

Look what the political left and Saudis did to England in a decade. Islamification and financial bankruptcy. O's is backed by the same people and is running the same playbook. Saudis = Muslim Brotherhood.
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:21 PM   #24
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I am currently selling disability and life to Postal Employees in NJ, SC, and GA...It is a very warm market and would be interested in sharing any mutual opportunites...I have already sent you an e-mail...Thanks in advance...Tony
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Originally Posted by Charpress View Post
It is interesting that the only unbiased method to determine the shape of the economy is the market, and as I write this the DJ is down 301 points today.

We have idiots running our country who think a depression is fine if it allows them to get their agenda through while everyone is asleep. That is exactly what FDR did to get his anti-business agenda through. That is also exactly what prolonged the Depression (the first one) six year beyond where it should have ended.

Obama telegraphed what he was going to do, but the average voter in this country is incredible stupid, lazy, greedy and naive.
OMG, you right-wing conservatists love to be revisionists
When it comes to history. FDR inherited the Great Depression from none other than Herbert Hoover, a hide-bound Republican. Check Bloomberg News and you'll find that the stock market went down to its lowest point in the period from September 3, 1929 ro July 8, 1932 (718 trading days----down 89.2%). That's before FDR was even elected. It looks like deja vu all over again (as Yogi Bera would say) with Obama inheriting the mess created by George W. Bush.

You must be brainwashed by Rush Limppaw---even the RNC Chairman stated he is an entertainer. I would add Limppaw is a blowhard!
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OMG, you right-wing conservatists love to be revisionists
When it comes to history. FDR inherited the Great Depression from none other than Herbert Hoover, a hide-bound Republican. Check Bloomberg News and you'll find that the stock market went down to its lowest point in the period from September 3, 1929 ro July 8, 1932 (718 trading days----down 89.2%). That's before FDR was even elected. It looks like deja vu all over again (as Yogi Bera would say) with Obama inheriting the mess created by George W. Bush.

You must be brainwashed by Rush Limppaw---even the RNC Chairman stated he is an entertainer. I would add Limppaw is a blowhard!
Nope - look at the stock market. It started dropping when Hillary had the nomination stolen from her due to ACORN thugs at the caucuses. The markets started dropping in May 2008 and slowy started going down. When the Kenyan-born marxist polls numbers versus McCain went up the market went down faster.

I sure hope you sell only health care because you should not sell financial services or insurance.

RULE #1: The market discounts the future. i.e. it looks 6 months to a year into the future and adjust the pricing accordingly. Bush's term was essentially over in early 2008.

The market would have held up with McCain or Hillary. McCsain is a RINO and Hillary was a lefty Dem but not a total marxist like Obama. Bill also would have restrained her. Capital fled the markets and the U.S. market because Obama is a marxist. The market has tanked more after he took office because anyone with an IQ above room temp has ZERO confidence in him.

FDR was a thug. He tried to repack the Supreme Court and engaged in other UnConstitutional acts. His nonsense prolonged the Depression. WW2 got us out of the Depression not FDR.
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OMG, Freddie, you think the NRA, CCC, WPA, etc., were nonsense? At least FDR tried to get out the country out of the depression that Hoover got it into. I hope you are not a historian.
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I am an annuity agent in Florida , so if you need my services please
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I am an annuity agent in Florida , so if you need my services please
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The only employees at risk of losing their jobs are those employees with 6 years of service or less. Anyone looking at doing a rollover is at least 60 and will not have to worry about layoffs.

By "recession proof" I mean that even in bad economic times (now) government grows not shrink.

I rolled 125k last night one call close. The guy I was training said it was like candy from a baby.
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The only employees at risk of losing their jobs are those employees with 6 years of service or less. Anyone looking at doing a rollover is at least 60 and will not have to worry about layoffs.

By "recession proof" I mean that even in bad economic times (now) government grows not shrink.

I rolled 125k last night one call close. The guy I was training said it was like candy from a baby.

What product did you roll him into?
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The only employees at risk of losing their jobs are those employees with 6 years of service or less. Anyone looking at doing a rollover is at least 60 and will not have to worry about layoffs.

By "recession proof" I mean that even in bad economic times (now) government grows not shrink.

I rolled 125k last night one call close. The guy I was training said it was like candy from a baby.
Sounds very interesting. What kind of commission levels are you getting?
Also, in doing the one call close, do you get any calls from the clients with follow up questions?
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You guys who think FDR inherited a problem that he bravely tried to correct need to read a book or two.

Hoover, first of all, acted like a Democrat and raised taxes and tried to spend against the tide. Sound familiar? It made things worse.

When FDR took over, all he had to do was reverse some of Hoover's actions. Instead he compounded them many times over with taxing, spending, and a vastly enlarged federal government. His methods were underhanded and many were illegal. When the Supreme Court decided many of his actions were illegal, his response was to try and pack the court with more justices that he would nominate to give him a majority. It was a Constitutional crises not seen since the Civil War.

The rest of the world was recovering while FDR's policies got us further and further into a chronic depression.

Any of this sound familiar?

Like I said, read a history book or two. Don't go by your recollections from seventh grade history.
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Ha .... And I tuned in here to read about an annuity prospecting "system" ... only to find hot air ...

So whats the word on this Russ Jone's guy and his 3 step prospecting post card system?

Anyone else familiar with John Melchingers cartoon Card system? Looks interesting
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Originally Posted by Charpress View Post
You guys who think FDR inherited a problem that he bravely tried to correct need to read a book or two.

Hoover, first of all, acted like a Democrat and raised taxes and tried to spend against the tide. Sound familiar? It made things worse.

When FDR took over, all he had to do was reverse some of Hoover's actions. Instead he compounded them many times over with taxing, spending, and a vastly enlarged federal government. His methods were underhanded and many were illegal. When the Supreme Court decided many of his actions were illegal, his response was to try and pack the court with more justices that he would nominate to give him a majority. It was a Constitutional crises not seen since the Civil War.

The rest of the world was recovering while FDR's policies got us further and further into a chronic depression.

Any of this sound familiar?

Like I said, read a history book or two. Don't go by your recollections from seventh grade history.
Great post Charpress.

The 7th grade history books all fawned over how great FDR was - yeah right. He should have been impeached for his Supreme Court antics. His actions prolonged the Depression. We may seen FDR 2 plus Mugabe/Chavez from the Kenyan-born usurper.
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Dfielder, I am in Minneapolis, MN. I am interested in learning how I can help postal workers with their benefits. Since I am new I can't send you a private message.
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Originally Posted by SoCalBroker View Post
Anyone else familiar with John Melchingers cartoon Card system? Looks interesting
I looked into it briefly. Don't remember exactly why I didn't pull the trigger. Now that you remind me, I'm curious also if anybody's had any experience w/ it?
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And why don't the bloviators take the feckin' political commentary to the "non-insurance" forum? Geezuz. Nobody wants to hear some eedjits on the internets ("right" or "left") wanking off. Opinions are like you know whats - some people have three of 'em, or something like that.

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Opinions are like you know whats - some people have three of 'em, or something like that.

You know, I am pretty sure that is exactly how that quote goes. Word for word, atleast, thats how i will be using it from now on lol.
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And why don't the bloviators take the feckin' political commentary to the "non-insurance" forum?
If you don't think politics and economics is driving annuity prospecting and sales right now, then good luck trying to talk to people if you are leaving the fundamentals that they are concerned about out of the equation.

Read this whole thread carefully this time and see if you don't catch the connection between where this thread started and where the discussion went.
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I appreciate those of you who expressed interest in our Government/Postal market. To be honest I wasn't anticipating that many people wanting more information.

We are putting together an intensive training program on Federal benefits as well as our sales presentation to position the annuities.

Those of you who expressed interest, please be patient with us and I will be back in touch once we are ready to have further conversations.

Plenty of leads, but we need to make sure the people running those appts are prepared.
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