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Discussion on Another Controversial Religous Post... within the Non-Insurance Related Discussion, part of the Insurance Agents and Brokers Forum category.
Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD
"Jewish congregations are converting by the thousands as we speak"
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03-24-2007, 01:20 PM
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#81
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Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD
"Jewish congregations are converting by the thousands as we speak"
As you say...prove it. Documented proof. Not Internet babble, blogs or hearsay. Show proof, as you would say.
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Fair enough...
I am not sure what kind of proof would be sufficient for you, but here is an email I got 4 days ago from a fellow Christian...
"It is with great excitement and blessing that I send you this.
We are in apostolic revival and it is already spreading across our nation. I am pleased to report to you that on Friday (March 2, 2007) 720 Messianic Jews (four congregations) were baptized in Jesus' name, and that 102 of them received the Holy Spirit as they came up out of the water.
It gives me great joy to report to you that Saturday (March 3, 2007) over 1000 (one thousand) Messianic Jews (five complete congregations) were filled with the Holy Spirit evidenced by speaking in other tongues as the Holy Ghost swept over that building.
Two young boys began to dance in the Holy Ghost, and speak in other tongues before one lesson could be taught, or one message could be preached. A wave of the Holy Spirit swept through the place and nearly everyone there were filled with His Spirit. They ran, danced, shouted, jumped, rolled and rejoiced as the Spirit of God transformed their lives.
Today (Sunday, March 4, 2007) a Messianic congregation in Lincoln, Nebraska will be presented the idea of being baptized in Jesus' name, and told of the infilling of the Holy Spirit.
Our time is now; let us go in boldness to fulfill His will.
Yours for revival,"
Rev. Russell W. Wolf
Nebraska District
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03-24-2007, 01:23 PM
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Guru
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Originally Posted by perfectchoice
Fair enough...
I am not sure what kind of proof would be sufficient for you, but here is an email I got 4 days ago from a fellow Christian...
"It is with great excitement and blessing that I send you this.
We are in apostolic revival and it is already spreading across our nation. I am pleased to report to you that on Friday (March 2, 2007) 720 Messianic Jews (four congregations) were baptized in Jesus' name, and that 102 of them received the Holy Spirit as they came up out of the water.
It gives me great joy to report to you that Saturday (March 3, 2007) over 1000 (one thousand) Messianic Jews (five complete congregations) were filled with the Holy Spirit evidenced by speaking in other tongues as the Holy Ghost swept over that building.
Two young boys began to dance in the Holy Ghost, and speak in other tongues before one lesson could be taught, or one message could be preached. A wave of the Holy Spirit swept through the place and nearly everyone there were filled with His Spirit. They ran, danced, shouted, jumped, rolled and rejoiced as the Spirit of God transformed their lives.
Today (Sunday, March 4, 2007) a Messianic congregation in Lincoln, Nebraska will be presented the idea of being baptized in Jesus' name, and told of the infilling of the Holy Spirit.
Our time is now; let us go in boldness to fulfill His will.
Yours for revival,"
Rev. Russell W. Wolf
Nebraska District
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Now that is interesting. Next thing you know Passion of the Christ will be preached at synagogues.
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03-24-2007, 01:28 PM
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An email doesn't cut it. I got an email a few hours ago that I was going to collect about a million bucks for helping a Nigerian widow get her money out of the bank.
Documented proof from an unbiased source. You would ask the same, and I wouldn't blame you for it.
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03-24-2007, 01:30 PM
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Lol. I'd like to commend everyone here so far. I've never seen a discussion on religion that didn't deteriorate quickly. So far the posting has been very professional.
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03-24-2007, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD
An email doesn't cut it. I got an email a few hours ago that I was going to collect about a million bucks for helping a Nigerian widow get her money out of the bank.
Documented proof from an unbiased source. You would ask the same, and I wouldn't blame you for it.
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lol I got the same email. Difference is, I do not know anyone in Nigeria. I know the man who sent me this email. Plus, that is just one account. There is no ulterior motive here...Our Nigerian friend has one.
Nevertheless, I really do not think I could present you anything--short of you being physically present--that would convince you.
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03-24-2007, 02:45 PM
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I've read this thread with a certain amount of interest, I was raised in a strictly fundamental lifestyle, we lived on a farm, went to church 3 days a week, were home schooled and raised the way my father saw fit.
In such a childhood, I've see both mistakes and good decisions, if I would have had my choice as a youngster I would have preferred a much different lifestyle.....and for many years I struggled with that. Now I am beginning to make peace with how my life has taken it's twists and turns and realize that God has given man a free will, He also has set boundaries with in place but for the most part man has been responsible for his decision since the dawn of time...and has paid the price for the wrong decisions.
If you truly believe that God has but one purpose for you and that you have no say in how you live your life and everything is predetermined, then life would be but a boring game.
I know people who actually believe this, I believe that yes, God does have a purpose for you, but you have a choice of following that or delaying it and the results are in at the end of your days.
It' s interesting to see the many different perspectives that surround us and see what people for what they truly are, this is a great thread.
We can all agree that each of us have a different opinion, but I think that the fact that we have an opinion and actually are concerned enough about it, counts for something.
God I believe rewards those who seek.
I am still seeking, and I belive that you should be always seeking because your own soul is at stake!
Like the Good Book says; "Seek and Ye Shall Find"
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03-24-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by natem2112
God I believe rewards those who seek.
I am still seeking, and I belive that you should be always seeking because your own soul is at stake!
Like the Good Book says; "Seek and Ye Shall Find"
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He absolutely does reward the seeker. I sought for years before He showed me what I was looking for was a real relationship with Him--not religion. That's the same thing He wants...relationship. That is one of the most amazing things about God to me is that he is a jealous God...not jealous of us, but jealous for us--meaning He is saddened when we love anything, like money, more than Him.
I appreciate your post. It shows sincerity in seeking.
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03-24-2007, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by john_petrowski
I'll cool with the debates - stimulates intelligent conversation. Another dilemma I have is Jesus in the Bible makes countless references to rich people and not being able to enter heaven. In one parable it's "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle then a rich man to enter the gates of heaven." In another parable a rich man asks Jesus what he must do to enter heaven and he's told he must sell all his possessions.
It this literal? If I'm making $200,000 a year and not giving it away yet I'm a good person am I screwed? We'd like to think it'll all be ok. The Bible says not.
Can we really bend the twist the Bible to justify our lifestyle? Ummm.....I don't think so.
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Solomon is in heaven and he is the richest man that ever lived.
God does not have a problem with us having lots of stuff--He has a problem when our stuff becomes more important than Him.
Money is not the root of all evil... the love of money is.
The passage you reference is
Matt 19:21-26
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
KJV
Notice that with God all things are possible...including making it to heaven and being rich too!
Last edited by Kyle Henson : 03-24-2007 at 03:27 PM.
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03-24-2007, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by joshril
I have no problem with any prayer in school.. But, if the public school endorses it, it is receiving funding from the government, which in turn is an indirect government edorsement. The first ammendment's intent was to not only prevent the government from passing legislation to enforce one or all religions, but to prevent other areas of government from forcing religion upon others.. which is exactly what would occur if organised school lead prayer in school was occuring..
Thomas Jefferson
(1743-1826; author, Declaration of Independence and the Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom; 3rd U.S. President, 1801-1809)
Convinced that religious liberty must, most assuredly, be built into the structural frame of the new [state] government, Jefferson proposed this language [for the new Virginia constitution]: "All persons shall have full and free liberty of religious opinion; nor shall any be compelled to frequent or maintain any religious institution": freedom for religion, but also freedom from religion. (Edwin S. Gaustad, Faith of Our Fathers: Religion and the New Nation, San Francisco: Harper & Row, 1987, p. 38. Jefferson proposed his language in 1776.)
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Once again it simply doesn't matter according to the Constitution, that is if we went by it for what it says: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. Prayer does not establish a State Religion, nor does Nativity Scenes nor does the Ten Commandments. Sure the Supreme Court in its ruling has ruled that the display of the Ten Commandments on public display is a violation, yet they they themselves have the Commandments on full display. Yet when the Constitution mentions the word "NO" todays government seems to not be able to understand (Exactly what part of NO do they not understand?) that as in now the "Election Reform" laws passed just a few years ago and a stamp of approval by the Supreme Court.
Plus there are reasons why Jefferson didn't have more influence when it came to drafting the Constitution. He quickly found himself in the minority for many points, plus his convictions of his morals were less then stellar. If you read his diaries or letters you quickly find that he thought Slavery was wrong but couldn't muster up the character to actually act on his conclusion. He pretty much did what many did, he decided to look for justification to allow himself to side with those in favor of Slavery (apperantly the majority was in favor) for several reasons some that would influence his life directly. No question Jefferson had influence, if he would of held to his convictions of slavery might of things work out differently? Don't know but I'm sure he could of influence with many in that day.
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03-24-2007, 07:30 PM
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03-24-2007, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by john_petrowski
A boy is born in a remote tribe in South America. The tribe worships many idols. The boy dies at age one. What happens to him after his death?
The answers I have got is why I'm still trying to pick.
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He goes to either Cuba or Venezuala to get away from the American devils.
Winter
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03-24-2007, 10:06 PM
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[quote=CHUMPS FROM OXFORD;10803]"Jewish congregations are converting by the thousands as we speak"
And Christians worldwide are converting to Islam... and so it goes.
Winter
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