Any experience with AHCP??

TheSalesWolf · 05-30-2008, 06:03 PM

BentlyFinancial - There is absolutely nothing worse than getting bad customer service. If I call in somewhere I like to be handle professionally. I can understand your complaint.

IF you ever us a GA make sure before you sign anything that they will let you out of your contract. If they don't then they have NO CONFIDENCE in their service.

moonlightandmargaritas · 05-30-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by healthagent

if you run your AHCP contract through Health Choice One

Sounds like an awful lot of hierarchy...

How does it affect the comp?

healthagent · 05-30-2008, 10:57 PM

It doesn't - 20% from the start - ability to move your contract at will, in writing. If you can find the downside there please let me know. You also get lead credits. You can go GR direct but you're getting stroked. There's a lot more in the till.

arnguy · 05-31-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by healthagent

'tis true - if you run your AHCP contract through Health Choice One you can be released upon request unless you have a debt. That is in writing by the way.

John, why would you run your AHCP contract through Health Choice One? Wouldn't it be more advantageous to run your contract directly through AHCP?

healthagent · 05-31-2008, 11:44 PM

Health Choice One will release you upon request - AHCP will not.

dmiller90 · 06-01-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by healthagent

Health Choice One will release you upon request - AHCP will not.

First, that is not correct. Second you cant just contract directly with AHCP, its is not set up in that manner. You will fall under a Divisional President and then a regional manager. I have been with AHCP since the begginning.

moonlightandmargaritas · 06-01-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dmiller90

First, that is not correct.

Like you have any credibility?

dmiller90 · 06-01-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by moonlightandmargaritas

Like you have any credibility?

You truly are a person that wants to argue and go back and forth, Like my post said earlier, You post nothing of any value. Always trying to stir the pot. I think its you that has no credibilty, and most can read your post and will agree.

healthagent · 06-01-2008, 11:29 AM

In all fairness Paul, while you position yourself as a marketing expert by shooting down most of the marketing advice posted with "I have a better way" the only thing you offer when pinned down is "I'm writing an Ebook."

Beyond that we don't know if you're a car salesman who works part-time selling health - someone who struggles to write 1 deal a week or someone who's extremely successful.

While it's your right to refuse to post your marketing details or a shred of personal information just realize that members like me take all of your posts with a grain of salt.

I'll be awaiting this fabulous Ebook to which I'm sure you'll charge a pretty penny to everyone here can see your marketing genious.

Outside of that 90% of your posts are wasted negative energy and you basically bring nothing to the table in this forum except snide comments.

While members like Somarco constantly help others with very detailed replies that actually help people you choose be be more of a snake in the grass - trying to convince everyone you're some kind of expert while conveniently refusing to post any real details or information about yourself.

Again, that's fine - just realize it's noticed.

One of the largest fallacies posted on this forum is years in the business = expertise.

Wrong. If you suck for 3 years you can suck for 10. I personally know agents who have been in this biz for over 10 years and I wouldn't send them a single referral.

dmiller90 · 06-01-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by healthagent

In all fairness Paul, while you position yourself as a marketing expert by shooting down most of the marketing advice posted with "I have a better way" the only thing you offer when pinned down is "I'm writing an Ebook."

Beyond that we don't know if you're a car salesman who works part-time selling health - someone who struggles to write 1 deal a week or someone who's extremely successful.

While it's your right to refuse to post your marketing details or a shred of personal information just realize that members like me take all of your posts with a grain of salt.

I'll be awaiting this fabulous Ebook to which I'm sure you'll charge a pretty penny to everyone here can see your marketing genious.

Outside of that 90% of your posts are wasted negative energy and you basically bring nothing to the table in this forum except snide comments.

While members like Somarco constantly help others with very detailed replies that actually help people you choose be be more of a snake in the grass - trying to convince everyone you're some kind of expert while conveniently refusing to post any real details or information about yourself.

Again, that's fine - just realize it's noticed.

One of the largest fallacies posted on this forum is years in the business = expertise.

Wrong. If you suck for 3 year you can suck for 10.

Great Post John, this forum is nothing to this individual but to start arguments, provides nothing of value.

healthagent · 06-01-2008, 11:38 AM

Just another kid in the schoolyard talking about how great he is at fighting - yet you call him out and he's nowhere to be found.

moonlightandmargaritas · 06-01-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by healthagent

In all fairness Paul, while you position yourself as a marketing expert by shooting down most of the marketing advice posted with "I have a better way" the only thing you offer when pinned down is "I'm writing an Ebook."

While it's your right to refuse to post your marketing details or a shred of personal information just realize that members like me take all of your posts with a grain of salt.

I'll be awaiting this fabulous Ebook to which I'm sure you'll charge a pretty penny to everyone here can see your marketing genious.

Oh John, you're so predictable. You just haven't learned yet that your "best defense is a good offense" just doesn't work with me.

The e-book was, and is a joke - on you. Many forum members are in on it already. We're making fun of your ceaseless self-promotion of your club, Assurant contracts, and "consulting" services (remember those?), back in the days when you were a "national" expert. Not to mention telemarketing, leads and all that other crap...

Your "members" might like to know about the email that you sent me asking if I would be willing to "teach a class" to your club, and offering to sell the e-book to your members via a link on your site. You told me, and I quote, I'd "make a lot of money."

Boy, it seems like only yesterday your were RAVING on here about a marketing idea of mine that you tried (special reports through telemarketing) that became your "marketing-idea-of-the-week" (I think after VIMO and employee telemarketers, but before hot transfers). Short memory?

Should I post a link so you can read it again?

Refusal to post marketing details? I guess you haven't looked back through the archives of posts...

The people whom I respect on this forum have all the info you could ever want on me. I owe you nothing, nor due I have to subscribe to your "standards" for what/who/should be posted on this forum.

Like I told you before, this is America, bub.

One final thing...

You have a history of sending me PMs trying to "explain" various things, and then asking me to keep them confidential. Don't send any more. If you do, I will post them...and I'm not sure you want your "members" seeing "the man behind the curtain."

healthagent · 06-01-2008, 01:20 PM

Paul - nothing to hide with PMs at all. I would love you to hop on a webinar and run one for members on marketing. That you declined is fine but I would like members to have many points of view.

You painted yourself as a marketing expert and I was guessing a marketing expert would like to be paid to share his advice. Guess not.

I also PM'd you to help a fellow FL agent with a small group case - whith my association does not deal with small group.

He was willing to either commission split or pay you for advice - part of my association is also trying to put members in contact with the right people when we don't have the knowledge so they don't make mistakes.

Now - you can continue on with being aruable the most negative person on our board.

Arguing with people like you is simply a waste of time. If you do not like what I do then you must be living in a special kind of hell - since you simply have zero control over it.

The word of the day for you regarding what I'm doing would be "acceptance."

Colorado Newbie · 06-02-2008, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dmiller90

First, that is not correct. Second you cant just contract directly with AHCP, its is not set up in that manner. You will fall under a Divisional President and then a regional manager. I have been with AHCP since the begginning.

Sorry to burst your bubble m8 but if you are contracted for AHCP through Health Choice One and decide to leave they will release you from your contract with AHCP. You do have to give Scott a 30 day notice.

I have to admit that I was indeed speculative of this so I called AHCP and their reply was that they can release me if they so choose.

dmiller90 · 06-02-2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Colorado Newbie

Sorry to burst your bubble m8 but if you are contracted for AHCP through Health Choice One and decide to leave they will release you from your contract with AHCP. You do have to give Scott a 30 day notice.

I have to admit that I was indeed speculative of this so I called AHCP and their reply was that they can release me if they so choose.

Can you Read? I clearly stated you cannot contract directly thru AHCP. The question I was commenting on was an individual asking why they didnt go direct with AHCP.

John, why would you run your AHCP contract through Health Choice One? Wouldn't it be more advantageous to run your contract directly through AHCP?

And My response was You cannot go direct with AHCP you must go thru a Divisional President. So Your far from bursting my bubble, Read before you post.

kew · 06-02-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by healthagent

Health Choice One will release you upon request - AHCP will not.

First, that is not correct. Second you cant just contract directly with AHCP, its is not set up in that manner. You will fall under a Divisional President and then a regional manager. I have been with AHCP since the begginning.

First of all I can read just fine. I will say however that sometimes I read things that people wrote that I think were absolutly ridicuous things to say so I as well sometimes question my ability to read. Secondly, based on the quote you outlined and you comment First, that is not correct. I think it's a fair assumption that you are refering to