People far more experienced than you are just trying to help you. We've already made the mistakes. Why wouldn't you want to learn from them as opposed to repeating them?
100 million in 4 years? How many of those 4 million did you put in YOUR pocket?
Who went there?
They said you will learn the following things at the conferance:
1) How to go from making 37,350 per year to 412,000 per year in the next 12 months.
2) How to make 7 appointments from 10 leads.
3) How to book 17 appointments in 1 hour.
4) How to reduce your overhead by 42%.
5) How to hire an administrative assistant for FREE.
6) How to recruit 3 sub agents in the next 10 days.
7) How to gain appreciation from your client and net 11 referrals at every appointment.
I'd like to hear what they said on how those things are done. Is anyone willing to talk about it please?
There are a lot of NAA people who read this forum. Many of them didn't go to the conferance so it would be helpful to all of us if someone who did could enlighten us.
I understand NAA top dogs get paid more. Can you name anyone on top who doesn't.
That's not the point. The issue here is whether or not NAA is a great company. I say they aren't. You say they are. More power to you.
There are a lot of NAA agents who make good money so your just wrong there.
Again, it's "you're" not your. "Good" money is a relative term.
Everyone pays for leads either directly or indirectly so what. It's the cost of doing business.
Well, I personally consider referrals a low cost way to get leads. From time to time, I'll try other ways, but when I work it right, the referrals keep me busy.
I don't understand your anger. It seems a little misplaced.
What anger are you talking about? I'm not angry. Just because someone disagrees with your assessment doesn't mean they are angry. I don;t know how long you've been in the business, but I've got 17 years. The last 9 as an independent. So I've seen a few things that maybe a lesser experienced agent hasn't.
Going to 100 million in 4 years does mean there doing something right.
Man, when are you going to get it? It's THEY'RE, not there. And you're correct, they are doing something right. Providing leads that the agent pays for and giving sub-par commissions which makes them very profitable. The hardest part about this business is getting in front of a qualified prospect. If you need to purchase leads to do that, there is absolutley nothing wrong with it. But again, that doesn't make NAA a great company.
You work on a tier system. Sure, your at 100% but those over you are at a higher contract rate.
How many times do I have to do this? It's YOU"RE not your. How do you know what system I work on? When you go through a traditional IMO, you get the street level commission. The only override is the IMO. The only way MLM's work is by cutting the commissions for the newbie's. There is no other way to pay 4, 5, 6 or however many levels NAA pays.
So classifying NAA as an MLM is just rediculous.
Rediculous? DVD, you see that button just to the right of the box on the screen where your words go when you reply to a message? It says Spellcheck. You might want to give it a try. It's ridiculous.
By your definition, your working in an MLM company also.
I think I've heard that 1,000 times from MLM people.
Lets get back to the issue. Did any of you attend the conferance and if so, can you tell all of us what you learned?
Dude, it's CONFERENCE. Too funny. I hope you don't send letters to your clients.
You guy are great. This is real productive. Thanks for the spellcheck but, you must not have read my previous posts about using the spellchecker on top if this box.
Originally posted by joel
[br]whats up all... yes i am alive and well, just haven't been posting for a bit - have been reading and the amusement level is still high as can be... anyway, drum roll please...... I AM NO LONGER WITH NAA.... (gasp)... i know i just made sti's day atleast - me and two friends from both NAA and United American formed an LLC and did a mailing - have about 15 agents under us and have 100%+ contracts with some big companies (AIG, Chase, GE, Chesapeake, Americo, Mutual of Omaha) and "high" contracts with Banner and West Coast - we are still using non-med products and fully underwritten depending on the customer's desires - we offer our agents 60% and free leads or 100% (except west coast and banner) if they pay for their own leads... we tried to take the good of NAA and take away some of the bad.... our first mailing of 6000 had a 1.75 response rate so far so we're about to do another mailing - i still have nothing bad to say about NAA though - the leads definately worked and MY manager (not everyone) treated me fairly and was truthful - i explained to him i thought he was one of the best NAA managers but his fault was that he had to follow the NAA promotion schedule.... to sum up... no i haven't fallen off the earth (yet), no longer with NAA but had a very fun and profitable run with them.... now running our own LLC and offering 100% right off the bat without any crazy production requirements... we're hoping it will work out better... anyway, thats all for now and i'll post again after we've worked through some of the leads and do our next mailing .... hope all is well with everyone and that you survived the hurricanes and appreciated the Yankees defeat..... joel
When you go through a traditional IMO, you get the street level commission. The only override is the IMO. The only way MLM's work is by cutting the commissions for the newbie's. There is no other way to pay 4, 5, 6 or however many levels NAA pays.
There are companies out there that pay 133% and more so you can recruit agents and pay them 100%
I read through all of Joels stuff on the other forum. He made a lot of money with NAA. He is making a lot more now on his own. But, he still made a lot with NAA before he left.
I have to sign off for the evening. It's stormy out here right now and the power usually goes off when that happens. I dont want my computer to get spiked so I'll continue this again in another 12 hours or so.
You guy are great. This is real productive. Thanks for the spellcheck but, you must not have read my previous posts about using the spellchecker on top if this box.
I know, I know, you don't care about spelling. But as a consumer of products and services, if I received a letter from you with the spelling and grammatical errors you make, I wouldn't think you were too intelligent. Therefore, I wouldn't do business with you. If you don't take pride in at least learning how to spell, how solid could your advice be? Just my own personal opinion.
I'll say this, you are probably working the right market. Chasing those $50 dollar apps every night. I personally prefer to work daytime hours and work with business owners who allow me to handle not only their life insurance, but their health insurance and their retirement dollars. If I sent them letters with the spelling and grammatical errors you display on this board, they would no doubt think less of the advice I give.
You can take it for what it's worth. It's not meant to be hostile. It's meant to be constructive criticism.
If you want to know about the conference, simply contact your upline or NAA directly and ask if they can supply you with a list of reps that attended. Seems much easier than coming to this board and asking it over and over and over and over and over. Then complaining because experienced agents are trying to give you some advice. It's apparent that none of the agents who have replied thus far didn't go and don't think too much of NAA. But you keep asking anyway. But hey, what do we know? We've only lasted longer than the majority of agents out there.
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