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Originally Posted by dvd493 Sti, I read through all of Joels stuff on the other forum. He made a lot of money with NAA. He ...


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Old 10-02-2006, 10:45 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by dvd493
Sti,

I read through all of Joels stuff on the other forum. He made a lot of money with NAA. He is making a lot more now on his own. But, he still made a lot with NAA before he left.

I have to sign off for the evening. It's stormy out here right now and the power usually goes off when that happens. I dont want my computer to get spiked so I'll continue this again in another 12 hours or so.
but you will soon learn that making a quick buck selling non~med life plans has its shortcomings..........with no residual income.........
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Old 10-02-2006, 11:53 PM   #82
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Sman,

If I'm writing a letter to a client. I'm spelling everything correctly. Writing on this board it doesn't matter much.
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Sti,

Not getting a residual income is a problem with Mortgage Protection but, you have to start somewhere. Starting off making a living is better than not.
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Old 10-03-2006, 08:39 AM   #84
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Originally Posted by dvd493
Sti,
Not getting a residual income is a problem with Mortgage Protection but, you have to start somewhere. Starting off making a living is better than not.
this is how it starts....then next thing you know you are looking for other avenues for leads ....higher contracts.....then who knows.....setting up paramed exams on all you clients to get thier best rate and best deals.......
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Originally Posted by dvd493
sman,

If I'm writing a letter to a client. I'm spelling everything correctly. Writing on this board it doesn't matter much.
So you purposely spell things wrong on the board?
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Old 10-03-2006, 09:45 AM   #86
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Sti,

That does seem to be the natural progresion of things. I have found higher contracts and signed up for them. I'm at 90% on some and 100% on others. Getting the leads on my own are the problem.
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Sman,

No, not on purpose. It just comes natural to me. As I said, it is not important to me to spell correctly. If a person can read and understand, the point has been made. If I need to write to a client, it is all spelled correctly.

Are you an english teacher?
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Originally Posted by dvd493
sman,

No, not on purpose. It just comes natural to me. As I said, it is not important to me to spell correctly. If a person can read and understand, the point has been made. If I need to write to a client, it is all spelled correctly.

Are you an english teacher?
So you're saying you CAN spell, you just choose not to on the board. That makes no sense to me. I understand it's easy to make a mistake from time to time, but even after it's been pointed out, you continue to misspell and use words incorrectly. That tells me you don't have a strong grasp of the english language. Unfortunately, spellcheck doesn't fix grammatical errors.

Am I an english teacher? No. Just someone who believes if you're going to do something, you might as well do it right. There's only one opportunity to make a first impression. I always attempt to make it a good one. And in this business, there is written communication with prospects and clients. If that written communication is full of misspelled words and grammatical errors, it's not likely you'll get the executive to trust the advice you give in other areas. He won't see you as competent. Again, just my opinion.

But if you are dealing with lower middle class clientele on the mortgage leads, it probably doesn't make much difference.
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Originally Posted by dvd493
Back to the original topic.

Who went there?
They said you will learn the following things at the conferance:

1) How to go from making 37,350 per year to 412,000 per year in the next 12 months.
2) How to make 7 appointments from 10 leads.
3) How to book 17 appointments in 1 hour.
4) How to reduce your overhead by 42%.
5) How to hire an administrative assistant for FREE.
6) How to recruit 3 sub agents in the next 10 days.
7) How to gain appreciation from your client and net 11 referrals at every appointment.

I'd like to hear what they said on how those things are done. Is anyone willing to talk about it please?

If you fall for thisI got one for ya.....


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Sman, you hit it right on the head! IMHO it sounds like dvd493 is either ignorant and/or disrespectful to the professionals on this board. He sounds like he doesn't give a s**t when communicating with his fellow professionals. We all make typos from time to time and sometimes have minor grammatical errors, but at least we do try to be correct.
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I was really hoping we could stick to the subject matter. I guess all the opinions are going to keep derailing what could have been helpful to everyone.

Is anyone out there from NAA who can add something constructive? Don't be nervous about what you've seen posted so far. People are people and we run into this on occasion. I'll look forward to hearing from the positive people on this forum.
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P.S. BTW At least Oleg tries to be correct and English is his second language. I don't know if he is on this forum, but he is on insurance-forums.com.
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Old 10-03-2006, 11:33 AM   #93
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Wow,

This is really something. Does anyone out there have anything positive to say?
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Old 10-03-2006, 11:37 AM   #94
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Originally Posted by dvd493
I was really hoping we could stick to the subject matter. I guess all the opinions are going to keep derailing what could have been helpful to everyone.
You are amazing. How many have expressed their opinion about NAA? I guess the only valid response in your mind is one that speaks highly of NAA. Maybe you should start an NAA message board where you and all your fellow NAA reps can interact and have a pep rally.

Quick question - Have you bothered to contact your upline or NAA directly about the conference? Seems like a logical place to start.

Is anyone out there from NAA who can add something constructive?
Again, it's only constructive if it agrees with your assessment of NAA. That is the definition of narrow mindedness.

Don't be nervous about what you've seen posted so far. People are people and we run into this on occasion. I'll look forward to hearing from the positive people on this forum.
O.K. - I went. It was GREAT. I've already increased my income ten-fold since the conference. You really should've been there. It was awesome!!! Lot's of great ideas on how to over charge people for life insurance. Oh yeah, how could I forget, we also learned how to recruit just about everyone to do the same thing. Oh you should've been there. Did I say it was awesome? Because it was. I'll soon be able to buy my own jet and travel the country recruiting agents and selling over priced term insurance. Too bad you didn't go. We've been sworn to secrecy for those that didn't attend. If you didn't go, they don't consider you a serious agent. Maybe you can go next year. By then I'll probably be a gazillionaire!!!!! See you at the top!!!!!
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Ok, here are my 2 cents.

Spelling: I am bad at it, but I figure if you know what I am saying, then that is what counts. When I type in word, I always get red lines under my words. Sometimes spellcheck even comes up with question marks as to what I am trying to write. Spelling is a syntax error in the mind (the mind cannot put the right letters together, but it knows what it is trying to do), not a sign of ignorance.

NAA - If you are happy great. If you want to be even happier, then listen to the others on the board. Your manager will hate to see you go, because his over-ride would go with you too.

And that was my $.02. You can all expect a check for that in the mail.
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that was my $.02. You can all expect a check for that in the mail
Would you mind faxing it? The mail is very unreliable here.
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Midwestbroker,

Thank you for that response. It was level headed and not an attack on something off the subject. I'm sure my manager would be sad to lose me or anyone because he does make money off of me. Someone else on this forum said insurance sales has a failure rate of about 97%. That being said, being able to walk into an agency as a new person and right away make some money is a good thing. That is what NAA can do for a person. To go it alone from the get go is a prescription for failure.

Most people progress from a place thats secure like NAA and go out on there own a little at a time. When that happens higher contracts come into play but also higher personal costs. NAA is a great place to start and for some it is a great place to stay.
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Dvd= NAA Manager


He tells us what was discussed at "convention" and then asks what happened there.../very sad

He's just here to push NAA in what he thinks is a sly why.

At first thought he was unguided noob but realize now that he's just
Unguided.

"being able to walk into an agency as a new person and right away make some money is a good thing. That is what NAA can do for a person"

Screw the client as long as I get mine..../sigh

Won't waste another keystroke on this guy.
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MIBizInsurance,

If you read all these posts you would have seen I wanted to go to the conference but was not able to. I did however have a copy of what the topics would be. They would be of interest to anyone in the insurance business. Thats why I'm inviting anyone who actually attended to share what happened.
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Somarco - tried to fax 2 pennies and got stuck in the fax machine

You want to know how to make it in this biz? Just sell. All the advice in the world cannot help you if you cannot sell.

Become a student of sales and a master of the product you offer.

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