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Old 10-02-2006, 09:34 PM   #76
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When you go through a traditional IMO, you get the street level commission. The only override is the IMO. The only way MLM's work is by cutting the commissions for the newbie's. There is no other way to pay 4, 5, 6 or however many levels NAA pays.
There are companies out there that pay 133% and more so you can recruit agents and pay them 100%


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Old 10-02-2006, 09:48 PM   #77
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Thats the point I was making in an earlier post. Thank you for recognizing it.


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Old 10-02-2006, 09:57 PM   #78
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"Yes they do but, I though you gave up?"

LOL...Your the one coming to a public forum asking for info. on your own companies convention!

Hmmmm...


Oh, I found this funny as hell-

From NAA site-

Mission Statement

Our Mission is to be the largest network of financial services professionals in the nation by:

providing the client with the best of breed financial products and services on the market today;


AXA and Foresters ! Can you say Proprietary crap!

"financial services professionals " HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


Run, don't walk.


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Old 10-02-2006, 09:58 PM   #79
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Sti,

I read through all of Joels stuff on the other forum. He made a lot of money with NAA. He is making a lot more now on his own. But, he still made a lot with NAA before he left.

I have to sign off for the evening. It's stormy out here right now and the power usually goes off when that happens. I dont want my computer to get spiked so I'll continue this again in another 12 hours or so.


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Old 10-02-2006, 10:12 PM   #80
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You guy are great. This is real productive. Thanks for the spellcheck but, you must not have read my previous posts about using the spellchecker on top if this box.
I know, I know, you don't care about spelling. But as a consumer of products and services, if I received a letter from you with the spelling and grammatical errors you make, I wouldn't think you were too intelligent. Therefore, I wouldn't do business with you. If you don't take pride in at least learning how to spell, how solid could your advice be? Just my own personal opinion.

I'll say this, you are probably working the right market. Chasing those $50 dollar apps every night. I personally prefer to work daytime hours and work with business owners who allow me to handle not only their life insurance, but their health insurance and their retirement dollars. If I sent them letters with the spelling and grammatical errors you display on this board, they would no doubt think less of the advice I give.

You can take it for what it's worth. It's not meant to be hostile. It's meant to be constructive criticism.

If you want to know about the conference, simply contact your upline or NAA directly and ask if they can supply you with a list of reps that attended. Seems much easier than coming to this board and asking it over and over and over and over and over. Then complaining because experienced agents are trying to give you some advice. It's apparent that none of the agents who have replied thus far didn't go and don't think too much of NAA. But you keep asking anyway. But hey, what do we know? We've only lasted longer than the majority of agents out there.


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Sti,

I read through all of Joels stuff on the other forum. He made a lot of money with NAA. He is making a lot more now on his own. But, he still made a lot with NAA before he left.

I have to sign off for the evening. It's stormy out here right now and the power usually goes off when that happens. I dont want my computer to get spiked so I'll continue this again in another 12 hours or so.
but you will soon learn that making a quick buck selling non~med life plans has its shortcomings..........with no residual income.........


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Old 10-02-2006, 11:53 PM   #82
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sman,

If I'm writing a letter to a client. I'm spelling everything correctly. Writing on this board it doesn't matter much.


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Old 10-02-2006, 11:55 PM   #83
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Sti,

Not getting a residual income is a problem with Mortgage Protection but, you have to start somewhere. Starting off making a living is better than not.


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Old 10-03-2006, 08:39 AM   #84
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Not getting a residual income is a problem with Mortgage Protection but, you have to start somewhere. Starting off making a living is better than not.
this is how it starts....then next thing you know you are looking for other avenues for leads ....higher contracts.....then who knows.....setting up paramed exams on all you clients to get thier best rate and best deals.......


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If I'm writing a letter to a client. I'm spelling everything correctly. Writing on this board it doesn't matter much.
So you purposely spell things wrong on the board?


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Old 10-03-2006, 09:45 AM   #86
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Sti,

That does seem to be the natural progresion of things. I have found higher contracts and signed up for them. I'm at 90% on some and 100% on others. Getting the leads on my own are the problem.


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sman,

No, not on purpose. It just comes natural to me. As I said, it is not important to me to spell correctly. If a person can read and understand, the point has been made. If I need to write to a client, it is all spelled correctly.

Are you an english teacher?


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Old 10-03-2006, 10:40 AM   #88
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No, not on purpose. It just comes natural to me. As I said, it is not important to me to spell correctly. If a person can read and understand, the point has been made. If I need to write to a client, it is all spelled correctly.

Are you an english teacher?
So you're saying you CAN spell, you just choose not to on the board. That makes no sense to me. I understand it's easy to make a mistake from time to time, but even after it's been pointed out, you continue to misspell and use words incorrectly. That tells me you don't have a strong grasp of the english language. Unfortunately, spellcheck doesn't fix grammatical errors.

Am I an english teacher? No. Just someone who believes if you're going to do something, you might as well do it right. There's only one opportunity to make a first impression. I always attempt to make it a good one. And in this business, there is written communication with prospects and clients. If that written communication is full of misspelled words and grammatical errors, it's not likely you'll get the executive to trust the advice you give in other areas. He won't see you as competent. Again, just my opinion.

But if you are dealing with lower middle class clientele on the mortgage leads, it probably doesn't make much difference.


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Back to the original topic.

Who went there?
They said you will learn the following things at the conferance:

1) How to go from making 37,350 per year to 412,000 per year in the next 12 months.
2) How to make 7 appointments from 10 leads.
3) How to book 17 appointments in 1 hour.
4) How to reduce your overhead by 42%.
5) How to hire an administrative assistant for FREE.
6) How to recruit 3 sub agents in the next 10 days.
7) How to gain appreciation from your client and net 11 referrals at every appointment.

I'd like to hear what they said on how those things are done. Is anyone willing to talk about it please?

if you fall for thisI got one for ya.....



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Old 10-03-2006, 10:49 AM   #90
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sman, you hit it right on the head! IMHO it sounds like dvd493 is either ignorant and/or disrespectful to the professionals on this board. He sounds like he doesn't give a s**t when communicating with his fellow professionals. We all make typos from time to time and sometimes have minor grammatical errors, but at least we do try to be correct.


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Old 10-03-2006, 10:54 AM   #91
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I was really hoping we could stick to the subject matter. I guess all the opinions are going to keep derailing what could have been helpful to everyone.

Is anyone out there from NAA who can add something constructive? Don't be nervous about what you've seen posted so far. People are people and we run into this on occasion. I'll look forward to hearing from the positive people on this forum.


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Old 10-03-2006, 10:55 AM   #92
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P.S. BTW At least Oleg tries to be correct and English is his second language. I don't know if he is on this forum, but he is on insurance-forums.com.


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Old 10-03-2006, 11:33 AM   #93
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Wow,

This is really something. Does anyone out there have anything positive to say?


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