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Just an FYI for anyone out there getting an offer to get training from a Kellen Bishop and Commercial Career out of Utah don't waste ...


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Old 05-22-2008, 10:29 AM   #1
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Just an FYI for anyone out there getting an offer to get training from a Kellen Bishop and Commercial Career out of Utah don't waste your time or money. She recently lost a lawsuit in NJ for failing to refund the course fees, she is involved or will be involved with a class action lawsuit from most of the students who took her training in 2006 and 2007. Of the 300 plus people including myself I do not know of anyone that made one tenth of the money she promised. Most just wasted a lot of time and money and were miss lead big time. The people recommending her on the website are shills and some I don't think even took her training. I can email a pdf of the transcripts from the trial in NJ that Bishop was sued and lost. www.CommercialCareer.com - Where lending professionals go for Commercial Training. this is from the first go around, act two can be found here; [COLOR=#800080]Commercial Career XE[/COLOR]
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:32 PM   #2
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I just love how anonymous cowards post anything they deem appropriate without holding themselves to any sense of truthfulness or accuracy. What a joke.

New Jersey? I think not. Go ahead and try and prove that one.

No one made any money? Hmm..that's interesting considering that some of my students STILL pay me a monthly fee to perpetuate their business. Guess these kinds of REAL professionals just don't have the time or inclination to give you whiners the time of day and hold your hand to doing the same.

Testimonials bogus? Wrong again. I guess if you can't succeed, the cowards way is to attempt to pull down others. How's that working for you so far?

Are you really happy? Are you making the kind of income that you would like? If not, then I strongly suggest you alter your strategy and focus on something productive.

Just so you know, freedom of speech does not protect lies, slander, and defamation. Wisdom would distate that you rethink your present methods.
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:06 PM   #3
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Kellene Bishop/Blue Screen Marketing LLC/Servicing Division is facing big time law suits and invesigations
Kellene Bishop offered a 'no questions asked money back guarantee' to her 'students'. She turned around and sent out a 20-page questionnaire out to her 'graduates' when they asked for refunds and denied almost all of them.

Disgruntled graduates have filled out this questionnaire from the Bander Law Firm for the big suit:



Commercial Career Questionnaire


Name:____________________
Date:_____________________


1. How did you hear about Commercial Career?
0 Word of mouth
Who___________________________________
When__________________________________
0 Internet
Did you search for a training course or did you receive a solicitation or email?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________________________
0 Mail Ad
0 Fax
0 Magazine/newspaper ads

Please provide the original or copies if available

2. Do you have any copies of the website (or other document) promising that if you took the course you would make $750,000 in the first 12 months of taking the course? If so please provide any such copies to us.

3. Did you attend a free commercial loan workshop?
When___________________________________
Where___________________________________
With whom________________________________
What happened at the workshop?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________________(attach extra pages if needed)


4. Describe all contacts you had with Commercial Career from the first contact to the last. (Please put your description in chronological order.)
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________

5. What services or products have you bought from Commercial Career?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______


Do you have receipts or other documents to prove what you bought? (Cancelled checks, credit card statements, Receipts for the hotel, airplane or car rental for the trip)
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________

6. Please provide copies of all course materials or anything else you received during events and seminars by Commercial Career.

7. Did you attend any other events such as Reunions?_________________
Where_____________________________________________ ______________
When______________________________________________ ______________
With whom______________________________________________ _________
What happened there_____________________________________________ __

8. Why did you sign up for the Commercial Career course? Did you really believe you would make $750,000 in the first year after the course? If so, what made you believe that promise?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________

9. What did you do after the course to make the $750,000 as promised?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________

What documents do you have to show what you did?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________________

10. Please describe your education from High School and up.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________

11. Please describe your work experience – (focused on the mortgage business, both residential and commercial. Do not give every job since high school. Only those related to real estate, running your own business, and the mortgage industry)
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________________________________________

12. Did you buy any forms from Commercial Career? (Such as the fee agreement to be used with your future clients?)
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________









13. Specifically list all the promises that were made to you:
What was promised__________________________________________ ______
Who said it________________________________________________ _______
When was it said to you_____________________________________________
Any witnesses_________________________________________ ___________
Any documents to prove it was made___________________________________
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________________________

14. Did you do any business or have any contacts with the following:
0 Kellene Bishop
0 Scott Bishop
0 Blue Screen Marketing LLC
0 Beehive Commercial
0 Beehive Commercial Lending
0 Servicing Division
0 CFS Association

When______________________________________________ _____________
Where_____________________________________________ ______________
Describe it________________________________________________ ________
Any witnesses_________________________________________ ____________
Any documents to show what happened________________________________
__________________________________________________ _____________________

15. Did you ever submit loan applications to the affiliates of Commercial Career and pay large application fees? (or have your clients pay them)?
0 Yes
0 No
Who did you submit it to?____________________________________________ Describe the deal/Explain what happened_______________________________

How much loan application fee was paid?_______________________________

Were you told that you were submitting to a direct lender or a loan broker?___________________________________________ _______________

16. Did you ever hear about someone named Kent Sullivan doing a $150 million deal because of the Commercial Career course? _______________

When______________________________________________ ______________ Who said it________________________________________________ _______ Where_____________________________________________ _____________ Other details___________________________________________ ___________


17. Is there anything else you know about the following people or entities?

Kellene Bishop____________________________________________ _______


Scott Bishop____________________________________________ _________


Blue Screen Marketing LLC_________________________________________


Beehive Commercial________________________________________ _______


Beehive Commercial Lending_______________________________________


Servicing Division__________________________________________ _______


CFS Association_______________________________________ __________
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________

18. Is there anything else you would like to tell us?
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Kellene Bishop/Blue Screen Marketing LLC/Servicing Division is facing big time law suits and invesigations
Kellene Bishop offered a 'no questions asked money back guarantee' to her 'students'. She turned around and sent out a 20-page questionnaire out to her 'graduates' when they asked for refunds and denied almost all of them.

Disgruntled graduates have filled out this questionnaire from the Bander Law Firm for the big suit:



Commercial Career Questionnaire


Name:____________________
Date:_____________________


1. How did you hear about Commercial Career?
0 Word of mouth
Who___________________________________
When__________________________________
0 Internet
Did you search for a training course or did you receive a solicitation or email?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________________________
0 Mail Ad
0 Fax
0 Magazine/newspaper ads

Please provide the original or copies if available

2. Do you have any copies of the website (or other document) promising that if you took the course you would make $750,000 in the first 12 months of taking the course? If so please provide any such copies to us.

3. Did you attend a free commercial loan workshop?
When___________________________________
Where___________________________________
With whom________________________________
What happened at the workshop?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________________________(attach extra pages if needed)


4. Describe all contacts you had with Commercial Career from the first contact to the last. (Please put your description in chronological order.)
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________

5. What services or products have you bought from Commercial Career?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______


Do you have receipts or other documents to prove what you bought? (Cancelled checks, credit card statements, Receipts for the hotel, airplane or car rental for the trip)
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________

6. Please provide copies of all course materials or anything else you received during events and seminars by Commercial Career.

7. Did you attend any other events such as Reunions?_________________
Where_____________________________________________ ______________
When______________________________________________ ______________
With whom______________________________________________ _________
What happened there_____________________________________________ __

8. Why did you sign up for the Commercial Career course? Did you really believe you would make $750,000 in the first year after the course? If so, what made you believe that promise?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________

9. What did you do after the course to make the $750,000 as promised?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________

What documents do you have to show what you did?
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________________

10. Please describe your education from High School and up.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________

11. Please describe your work experience – (focused on the mortgage business, both residential and commercial. Do not give every job since high school. Only those related to real estate, running your own business, and the mortgage industry)
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________________________________________

12. Did you buy any forms from Commercial Career? (Such as the fee agreement to be used with your future clients?)
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________









13. Specifically list all the promises that were made to you:
What was promised__________________________________________ ______
Who said it________________________________________________ _______
When was it said to you_____________________________________________
Any witnesses_________________________________________ ___________
Any documents to prove it was made___________________________________
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________________________

14. Did you do any business or have any contacts with the following:
0 Kellene Bishop
0 Scott Bishop
0 Blue Screen Marketing LLC
0 Beehive Commercial
0 Beehive Commercial Lending
0 Servicing Division
0 CFS Association

When______________________________________________ _____________
Where_____________________________________________ ______________
Describe it________________________________________________ ________
Any witnesses_________________________________________ ____________
Any documents to show what happened________________________________
__________________________________________________ _____________________

15. Did you ever submit loan applications to the affiliates of Commercial Career and pay large application fees? (or have your clients pay them)?
0 Yes
0 No
Who did you submit it to?____________________________________________ Describe the deal/Explain what happened_______________________________

How much loan application fee was paid?_______________________________

Were you told that you were submitting to a direct lender or a loan broker?___________________________________________ _______________

16. Did you ever hear about someone named Kent Sullivan doing a $150 million deal because of the Commercial Career course? _______________

When______________________________________________ ______________ Who said it________________________________________________ _______ Where_____________________________________________ _____________ Other details___________________________________________ ___________


17. Is there anything else you know about the following people or entities?

Kellene Bishop____________________________________________ _______


Scott Bishop____________________________________________ _________


Blue Screen Marketing LLC_________________________________________


Beehive Commercial________________________________________ _______


Beehive Commercial Lending_______________________________________


Servicing Division__________________________________________ _______


CFS Association_______________________________________ __________
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________________________________________

18. Is there anything else you would like to tell us?

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