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Old 01-08-2009, 06:20 PM   #1
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Hey guys,
I am doing some direct mailings on LTC, Life and investments and was wondering of anybody would like to share so that we could compar with each other, maybe get idea's how to make ours better.
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Old 01-15-2009, 03:24 AM   #2
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What the heck...No takers??? Send me a PM and we can set up a time to talk.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:50 AM   #3
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Other than newsletters, I have not found direct mail to be profitable. To date my newsletters have been via email thru Constant Contact. I will be starting a quarterly mailout by USPS this year.
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:47 AM   #4
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Other than newsletters, I have not found direct mail to be profitable. To date my newsletters have been via email thru Constant Contact. I will be starting a quarterly mailout by USPS this year.
Does anyone have a good templet for a newsletter? I can come up with things to put in one but I need a good layout.
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:58 AM   #5
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I'm new to the insurance world but I have never found direct mailers to be effective in my other business.
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Old 01-15-2009, 09:22 AM   #6
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If you are going to do a direct mailing, let me recommend that you use postcards. They work a lot better.
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:06 AM   #7
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Hand write the envelopes. 20 hand-written ones will generate more interest than 125 labeled ones.
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:29 AM   #8
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I use hand written envelopes and sign every letter myself. I am sitting at my kitchen table calling these right now, 260 I sent out last week.
I never get a good feeling when I am about to call one and "lot 6" is in the address.
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:56 AM   #9
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good templet for a newsletter?
I don't mind sending one of mine. Give me your email address. It isn't anything fancy but seems to be effective.

I never get a good feeling when I am about to call one and "lot 6" is in the address.
Obviously you need to work on your attitude . . . and make sure you are packing when you come calling.

So tell me, where did you get these leads?

Have you ever thought about offering a free bottle of peroxide and super-size tube of red lipstick with every sale?
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Old 01-15-2009, 11:21 AM   #10
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Lol, na never thought to offer free lipstick. I go these leads from old medicare leads that I have. All the ones that I mailed out I am using griffon to call them on, if they are DNC, then I leave it be, if not I open with "Good morning Mr./Mrs. Prospect. My name is Jeremy Augusta with xxxxxxx How you doing today? Oh sorry to hear you lost your leg..... I hope you find it soon. The reason of my call is that last week I had sent you out a letter with information on how to protect your retirement and I was wondering if you had time to read it yet so I may answer any questions you may have" and wing it from there.

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It seams that the majority of the people I am calling are on a fixed income from their social security. Is there any way to search for names of people who are more financialy stable that you guys know of? I am also doing this in real time so if anybody here wants to give me advice or pointers pm me and I can send you my messenger contact info.
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Old 01-15-2009, 05:32 PM   #11
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What you could do is a 1000 mail drop from a lead house where you get to choose the income level. You likely get back 1-5% depending on the lead mailed. Once you do that you can in most cases buy the list they used for the mailing and call the 950 or so that did not respond.






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Lol, na never thought to offer free lipstick. I go these leads from old medicare leads that I have. All the ones that I mailed out I am using griffon to call them on, if they are DNC, then I leave it be, if not I open with "Good morning Mr./Mrs. Prospect. My name is Jeremy Augusta with xxxxxxx How you doing today? Oh sorry to hear you lost your leg..... I hope you find it soon. The reason of my call is that last week I had sent you out a letter with information on how to protect your retirement and I was wondering if you had time to read it yet so I may answer any questions you may have" and wing it from there.

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It seams that the majority of the people I am calling are on a fixed income from their social security. Is there any way to search for names of people who are more financialy stable that you guys know of? I am also doing this in real time so if anybody here wants to give me advice or pointers pm me and I can send you my messenger contact info.
I appreciate everything guys.

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Old 01-15-2009, 08:28 PM   #12
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What would something like that cost?
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I use an in house mail drop from a carrier that will drop 1000 for 325. Then you can get the list for a fraction of the drop cost. If you are interested you can drop me a e-mail and I can get you more information. If you use a service your looking at 350-600 for the drop + the list.
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:24 PM   #14
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Does that seem to work pretty good for you? I am still starting out and having a rough time, I would hate to drop cash and it not work out. Know what I mean?
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Old 01-16-2009, 06:13 PM   #15
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It works good in my area it is how I get all my FE leads. I have around 15-20 come in per 1000 which keeps me in work and I do not bother with the list. I close between 5-10 per round at $400-500 avg. a sale. I also do med sup and stumble into a few of those and get a referral now and then. I will check monday on the list price but doubt it is over $100. How much are you spending to do your own mailings? You can e-mail me.
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Old 01-16-2009, 06:38 PM   #16
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I am doing my own mailings. I use the loeads provided by my branch, but I get all the old leads and I send them all letters about different products. I will send one house a letter about one product one month, then the next month they will get a letter about a different product. But I keep hitting the same houses and it is starting to work out but I would love to be able to target the higher income homes.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:27 PM   #17
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Do you have to pay to mail them? if so how much? Also you might be paying in the form of a lower commission for the leads you get. In most cases your commission will be lower when you work at a branch and they give you leads. Most people can more than make up the difference of the lead cost with a higher commission.




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I am doing my own mailings. I use the loeads provided by my branch, but I get all the old leads and I send them all letters about different products. I will send one house a letter about one product one month, then the next month they will get a letter about a different product. But I keep hitting the same houses and it is starting to work out but I would love to be able to target the higher income homes.

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Old 01-16-2009, 10:05 PM   #18
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I am sure that the commission is lower where I am a branch, but keep in mid I have been in this game only since October when I got out of the military. I need to be at a branch right now to learn everything that I can from everybody that I can.
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I don't pay anything to mail them except postage which the branch covers.

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I can say from experience over the last 6 months that direct mail is FAR more EFFECTIVE than I thought it would be.

(disclaimer: I do P&C, specifically homeowners mailings, never tried health)
I figured I would get less than 0.5% response, making it not worth doing. Truth is, I get between 1% and 2% response with 80% closing on the response. You can't beat this.

I found out a few things, that took me a while.... for $99.95, I'll sell you my ebook, or you can simply read this post for free....

Myth 1: Postcards work better. Found out this isn't true. (I'll explain in a bit). I personally believed this for quite some time, since even I would glance at a postcard before I through it away. I realized it was a glance and then throw away.

Myth 2: A real stamp improves open rates. Okay, this might be true, but other things have to be in place, the letter has to look professional. Trying it both ways, a meter stamp is pretty effective, and actually improved my response.

Myth 3: Handwriting addresses improves response. It MIGHT improve the number opened, probably doesn't improve response.

Okay, in trying various things, this is what I've found:

- It is important that the mail piece look professional. Make it look more like a bill than a piece of junk mail though. Mine go out in professionally printed window envelopes, with my logo, meter stamped. They look like something I'm proud to send (and I am). Yes, I used to hand stamp the letters, gave up on this after several tests showed it wasn't any more effective.

- Quantity matters, Quality matters more. Think of who you are sending the offer to. Would they have any reason to be interested? I send to homeowners as their homeowners insurance comes due (guessed at based on when they bought their house). I limit this to home purchase transactions in the last 5 years. Responses drop dramatically after this. Given todays market, I also pay to scrub my list against the national change of address list, so I'm not sending to people who may no longer own their house. Do you know who your market is? You need to find a list that matches that market. For instance, direct mail in bulk to everyone in a neighborhood for health insurance is going to be a waste of money, most are covered with group at work, through their spouse, etc. You need to find the right characteristics for the list you use.

- What are you offering? You're response rate will be very low if all you do is say 'Call me for a Quote'. Why would they call you? For my homeowner prospects, I provide them with an actual quote to insure their property, it even lists their square footage, number of bathrooms, discounts quoted, etc. If they like the price, they call. They always like the price How do you do this with health? Find a solid plan, quote a couple of age brackets, tell them why they need it.

- Make your mailpiece look professional. Don't overdue the envelope, but make sure the inside contents is very professional in presentation. Have a dozen people look at what you are going to send, see what their reaction is. Make sure you use color, decent quality paper, etc. In mine, I have a B&W quote and then a piece of 80lb card stock (1/3 of a sheet) that explains why I'm sending them the quote. Not sophisticated, but very professional.

- My envelope probably looks more like a bill than a piece of junkmail (if bills aren't junkmail). The one thing I do is I print 'Homeowners Insurance Renewal Information' on the envelope. Since most people don't know who their homeowners policy is with, they just assume.... anyway, find something that makes it work.

- Quantity does matter. If you send out 100, you have probably wasted your money. If you send out 1000 one time, you probably have wasted your money. Direct mail is something you have to do consistently, then it becomes part of your business. I can't explain why this is true, but it very much is. I get calls from pieces I mailed out 4 months ago. In fact, I should be writting a policy now instead of this post from one I sent out about 5 months ago.

- Know your costs. If you do your own direct mail (which I recommend), know inside out what it costs to send out each letter. I know what the ink cost on that page is, I know what the data cost is for that letter, I know what portion of my monthly bill for my folding machine I allocate to the letter. All in, with postage, I can mail a letter to a prospect for about $0.43, almost the same as the cost of first class postage. Of course, this is based on mailing a 1000 letters a week, or over 4000 a month.

If anyone is wondering, my letters print at night, and I can fold / stuff / stamp 1000 letters in an hour. Well, okay, the machine I have can do about 1400 an hour, but I have to feed it as it runs out of paper / envelopes, slowing it down. I lease the machine for a little over $100 a month, which is figured into the cost per letter.

Don't be intimidated by direct mail. If it didn't work, people wouldn't do it. If not done right, it won't work. Biggest thing is to have a compelling call to action. Basically, why call? Why call now?

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Djs - Thank's for making available such an excellent summary of your DM experience.

Does anyone else have any DM experiences they'd like to share?
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