The Dismantling of ObamaCare - Ongoing Updates.

[junkman]

@ARus: I,am amazed th,you ca,think Trump is doing anything except trying to measure up to his dead daddy's expectations and make us pay for it while further enriching himself.

He's building the wall while we have 0 net immigration from down south. The wall is in the desert and will screw up water flow in floodplains , disrupt wild life migration, take money away from all of the other things that are more important.

Trump is a cluster **** in process and needs to be impeached.

 

[goillini52]

@ARus: I,am amazed th,you ca,think Trump is doing anything except trying to measure up to his dead daddy's expectations and make us pay for it while further enriching himself.

He's building the wall while we have 0 net immigration from down south. The wall is in the desert and will screw up water flow in floodplains , disrupt wild life migration, take money away from all of the other things that are more important.

Trump is a cluster **** in process and needs to be impeached.

Well bless your heart.


You're such an ***!

 

[Justin Bilyj]

Great Article from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, "ObamaCare Subsidies Rob the Middle Class"

The dirty little secret is that having insurance might be a guarantee that the insured pays MORE. And because deductibles have risen dramatically along with premiums, a family needs to pay thousands of dollars out of pocket before insurance kicks in. But how does this work?

Most insurance companies have networks of “preferred providers.” One would assume that a “preferred provider” is a doctor or a lab that gives better rates, but the opposite is the case. As an example, one patient spent a day in the emergency room where the total bill came to $12,000. The “preferred provider” rate brought the bill down to $10,000, which happened to be that patient’s deductible. Upon further scrutiny, the breakdown of the bill showed a lab fee of $3,500—labs that would have cost less than 100 cash on the outside.

When the hospital patient advocate was queried, the answer came back, “Your insurance company negotiated $10,000 and, since you have not met your deductible, you are bound it pay it. Paying the cash price is not an option.” She acknowledged that this seemed unfair, but would not budge.

Another patient discovered that his insurance had lapsed and was given a cash price of $75 for an office visit. Once insurance was restored, the submitted fee was $275. Since he had not met his deductible, he was expected to personally pay the higher fee.

 

[goillini52]

Great Article from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, "ObamaCare Subsidies Rob the Middle Class"

The dirty little secret is that having insurance might be a guarantee that the insured pays MORE. And because deductibles have risen dramatically along with premiums, a family needs to pay thousands of dollars out of pocket before insurance kicks in. But how does this work?

Most insurance companies have networks of “preferred providers.” One would assume that a “preferred provider” is a doctor or a lab that gives better rates, but the opposite is the case. As an example, one patient spent a day in the emergency room where the total bill came to $12,000. The “preferred provider” rate brought the bill down to $10,000, which happened to be that patient’s deductible. Upon further scrutiny, the breakdown of the bill showed a lab fee of $3,500—labs that would have cost less than 100 cash on the outside.

When the hospital patient advocate was queried, the answer came back, “Your insurance company negotiated $10,000 and, since you have not met your deductible, you are bound it pay it. Paying the cash price is not an option.” She acknowledged that this seemed unfair, but would not budge.

Another patient discovered that his insurance had lapsed and was given a cash price of $75 for an office visit. Once insurance was restored, the submitted fee was $275. Since he had not met his deductible, he was expected to personally pay the higher fee.

Well at least they got to keep their Doctor...................right?

 

[AgentOrange]

Just giving you guys a heads up: Medicare uses usual customary and reasonable in their no network fee for service model - some people call that price controls and government medicine. What's interesting is Medicare has the highest approval rating of any health coverage in America. The people on Medicare are by and large the wisest and have the most experience with health coverage and healthcare.

The argument here seems to be how to make health insurance affordable but we all know how to do that, exclude pre-x and cap lifetime limits. That will work to make health insurance affordable but will not deliver healthcare the way Americans expect.

Just saying all this talk about patients shopping for the cheapest surgeon, the poor having HSAs and Tort reform is all really small ball stuff.

The real choice is exclude pre-x and cap lifetime limits or cover everyone, and if cover everyone, how?

 

[junkman]

Well bless your heart.


You're such an ***!

Gosh, do you really mean it? You're so,wise - in your own mind. LMFAO

 

[goillini52]

Gosh, do you really mean it? You're so,wise - in your own mind. LMFAO

Well bless your heart again.


I used to think you were fairly intelligent.....until I actually read some of your drivel. You really do miss your Kenyan don't you.

Now stop trying to pinch YOUR President and mine.


I'd be wise in your mind too...if you weren't such an ***.

 

[ARus]

...dead daddy's expectations a....

Didn't expect this kind of reaction, but happened to me once before.
Respect your president. He is a self made person: a quality I respect the most.

 

[papercutter]

@ARus: I,am amazed th,you ca,think Trump is doing anything except trying to measure up to his dead daddy's expectations and make us pay for it while further enriching himself.

He's building the wall while we have 0 net immigration from down south. The wall is in the desert and will screw up water flow in floodplains , disrupt wild life migration, take money away from all of the other things that are more important.

Trump is a cluster **** in process and needs to be impeached.

What is a Marxist clown like you doing living in Tennessee anyway? You should be living in the Soviet Socialist Republic I do

 

[junkman]

What is a Marxist clown like you doing living in Tennessee anyway? You should be living in the Soviet Socialist Republic I do

Working to overthrow the encroaching government and restore control to the people. **** Face seems to think that he has permission to crap all over the wold and anyone in it. The sheeple have lined up because they are tired no one is listening to them. Boo Hoo. Jobs moved overseas and will as long as the job can be done acceptably well for less money. One man's unemployment is the economies unallocated resource free to learn something and reapply those resources to become productive and ......shocker make some money. Just don't ruin the air that I have to breath while you're becoming or after you're retrained.

Self made man??? You gotta be kidding. Started with Daddys money and rapped and pillaged to get more. Perfect of someone born on third base acting like he hit a home run. That is not someone to be elected president or emulated. What makes you think he isn't continuing to do the same. Ask the people suing him how much integrity he has and what a good businessman he is. Go enroll in Trump University and get a real education from a bent over position.

Will he be remembered as a great president? Doubtful. More like a liar and a thief.

Pinche Trump. He needs to go.