If You Use Insureme...you Could Be Terminated!

CHUMPS FROM OXFORD · 07-05-2007, 11:47 PM

At least one captive company has placed InsureMe on their list of "unapproved vendors." Insureme does NOT scrub their leads for "do not call list" compliancy. Therefore, reps who use Insureme are "subject to termination."

I asked Insureme about this today and one of the managers said they were aware that they do not scrub their leads. She also indicated that she was not concerned and would encourage employees of those companies to continue to use Insureme.

At $11 bucks per lead (max filters), I think I will spend those dollars elsewhere. Maybe it is time to get a website like everyone else. Hometownquotes...here I come!

And by the way...I have purposely misspelled a word for your evening enjoyment!

salpro22 · 07-06-2007, 12:07 AM

I was not under the impression that online health insurance quote companies scrubbed their leads against the DNC list. I take it that those of you who use internet leads know if the leads are being scrubbed???????

CHUMPS FROM OXFORD · 07-06-2007, 12:29 AM

Insureme may not be the only one that does not scrub. Maybe they all don't. But NetQuote has at least told one major captive company that they do scrub them.

GreenSky · 07-06-2007, 12:50 AM

Maybe I'm missing something. If someone gives you their phone number (such as entering it online), why does it need to be scrubbed? You are not cold calling. You are responding to a request for information.

Am I wrong or rite? (misspelled on purpose).

Rick

James · 07-06-2007, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by GreenSky

Maybe I'm missing something. If someone gives you their phone number (such as entering it online), why does it need to be scrubbed? You are not cold calling. You are responding to a request for information.

Am I wrong or rite? (misspelled on purpose).

Rick

Now on the idea of submitted leads via the Internet and scrubbing? You're 100% correct, no if they (the person submitting the lead) submit the lead then they have given permission. Now mispelled words being on purpose or not? Can't help you there!

healthagent · 07-06-2007, 07:59 AM

The DNC rules do not come into play:

An EBR exists if you have made an inquiry, application, purchase, or transaction regarding products or services offered by the person or entity involved. Generally, you may put an end to that relationship by telling the person or entity not to place any more solicitation calls to your home. Additionally, the EBR is only in effect for 18 months after your last business transaction or three months after your last inquiry or application. After these time periods, calls placed to your home phone number(s) by that person or entity are considered telephone solicitations subject to the do-not-call rules.

That means if you voluntarily provide your number the gloves are off. On top of that, InsureMe clearly states in their TOS that their info is gonna get sent out to everyone under the sun: http://www.insureme.com/content/privacy-policy/

Application Data may be forwarded to insurance agents, discount program representatives, brokers and/or companies who may contact you with a quote by email, telephone, postal mail or other forms of communication. We are not responsible, and shall not be liable, if an agent, broker, discount program representative or company to whom we forward your Application Data violates our Privacy Policy or their own privacy policy, if any.

TXINSURANCE · 08-02-2007, 12:08 AM

If a person fills out a request for you have 90 days to keep calling them (unless they tell you to stop). DNC does not apply in first 90 days, unless they tell you to quit calling them.

Most agents are calling past 90 days, which technically not permitted but seldom if ever enforced since the feds can't regulate insurance.

Call up to 90 days and it is a dead issue.

CHUMPS FROM OXFORD · 08-02-2007, 12:34 PM

So an email after 90 days is OK?

salpro22 · 08-02-2007, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD

So an email after 90 days is OK?

Here you go

Spam Laws: United States

CHUMPS FROM OXFORD · 08-02-2007, 02:45 PM

"3) A person does not violate division (B) of this section if the person transmits or causes to be transmitted to the recipient an electronic mail advertisement when any of the following apply:

(a) The person has a pre-existing business or personal relationship with the recipient.
(b) The recipient has consented or has agreed as a condition of service to receive the electronic mail advertisement.
(c) The recipient receives the electronic mail advertisement because another recipient forwarded the advertisement to that recipient via an internet web site or another recipient made a direct referral of that recipient to receive the advertisement."

Actually, I'm still not sure. That wa a lot of reading.

arnguy · 08-02-2007, 03:08 PM

The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has announced that their Do Not Call List will expire on September 15, 2007. Residents who wish to renew must do so by that date or they will be dropped from the DNC list.

TXINSURANCE · 08-02-2007, 04:51 PM

Yes email after 90 days is ok if that is what you choose to do, you must understand and be in compliance with CAN SPAM and your state laws if applicable on email marketing, provide an OPT OUT, etc., etc., CA has email guidelines that are more complicated.

ins.dave · 06-23-2009, 05:29 AM

[COLOR=black]Maybe I'm missing something. If someone gives you their phone number (such as entering it online), why does it need to be scrubbed? You are not cold calling. You are responding to a request for information.

Am I wrong or rite? (misspelled on purpose).

Rick[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black]Yeah. What foolishness.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black]PROSPECT[/COLOR][COLOR=black] – “ Don’t ever call me again. I’m on the DNC.”[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black]Yours truly[/COLOR][COLOR=black] – “Congratulations.” Click.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black]What is the correct name for the type of idiot who puts his correct phone number on the internet, but doesn’t want anyone to call?”[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black]If all he / she wants is a “quote” and doesn’t want a phone call, they can do one of these - 555 555 5555 and just leave an email address.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black]Of course then they would not have the pleasure of busting the salesperson’s balls when he / she calls in [/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black]response to their inquiry. Now I get it. There are some petty M and Fer’s out there. Same type of A – hole who goes to a restaurant just so they can be obnoxious to the wait staff.[/COLOR]

SportsNut · 06-23-2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by ins.dave

[COLOR=black]Maybe I'm missing something. If someone gives you their phone number (such as entering it online), why does it need to be scrubbed? You are not cold calling. You are responding to a request for information.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]Am I wrong or rite? (misspelled on purpose).[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]Rick[/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black]Yeah. What foolishness.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]PROSPECT[/COLOR][COLOR=black] – “ Don’t ever call me again. I’m on the DNC.”[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]Yours truly[/COLOR][COLOR=black] – “Congratulations.” Click.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]What is the correct name for the type of idiot who puts his correct phone number on the internet, but doesn’t want anyone to call?”[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]If all he / she wants is a “quote” and doesn’t want a phone call, they can do one of these - 555 555 5555 and just leave an email address.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]Of course then they would not have the pleasure of busting the salesperson’s balls when he / she calls in [/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]response to their inquiry. Now I get it. There are some petty M and Fer’s out there. Same type of A – hole who goes to a restaurant just so they can be obnoxious to the wait staff.[/COLOR]

Trying to figure out which is more futile...

A) An internet lead who enters their actual contact data into the contact form, who doesn't really wish to be called...

B) A person on this forum who responds to a post that was made 716 days ago...

Peelerinsurance.com · 06-23-2009, 11:09 AM

Another post that has rose from the dead...wow?!..... 22 months old....

somarco · 06-23-2009, 11:13 AM

Ins.dave seems to be on a mission . . .

moonlightandmargaritas · 06-23-2009, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by somarco

ins.dave seems to be on a mission . . .

Wonder if he's any kin to "InsuraneByDave" who used to post one here until his girlfriend bullied him to get outta the biz.

He was trying to sell his website...

somarco · 06-23-2009, 11:18 AM

This guy's flag is FL. The other Dave was (I believe) from CA.

We have too many Dave's on this forum. Maybe some of them need to change their name to Bob.

No, that won't work either.