Over 150.000 insurance professionals and consumers come to the Insurance Forum every month. Click here to register for FREE


Go Back   Insurance Forums > Insurance Agents and Brokers Forum > Insurance Technology Forum

Reply to Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court     
Old 06-17-2017, 08:41 AM   #21
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts:2
State: excitedaboutlife is an Insurance Agent from
Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court Re: Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Originally Posted by VolAgent View Post
Well isn't that interesting, NAAIP's attorney is a collections lawyer.
I do believe, most judges do not like to see cases tried in the court of public opinion, particularly before a jury is selected.
It is not that Bob was trying the case in the court of public opinion - Bob was using the case to pick up new customers - and to attempt to destroy a potential competitor before it gets to big.

Keep in mind that naaip.org is a free website builder for insurance agents - Obviously a free website builder that gets a huge market share becomes a Amazonian powerhouse in the insurance industry. Bob was just trying to stop that.

Agents on this forum should know that naaip.org main focus is search engine optimization for insurance websites.
------------------------------------
  Reply With Quote to Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Old 06-17-2017, 12:19 PM   #22
Guru
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts:6,393
State: scagnt83 is an Insurance Agent from South Carolina
scagnt83 is a member of 5000 posts Super VIP club
Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court Re: Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Despite what we might think of Bob and some of his actions. He has done this industry a great service.

Bob exposed naaip for the lying criminals they are.

No agent in their right mind would do business with naaip if they pay attention to this forum. And a heck of a lot do. I know this has been talked about in other outlets as well.

The 1 constant among agents so far has been "naaip is a scam, operated by a thief and liar".

There are lots of agents who will no longer do business with CompuLife... but many more will never do business with naaip.

----------

Originally Posted by nylife11023 View Post
I don't like the man personally and I disagree with the man on political and social issues, but he runs a good business which has been successful and from what I've read here over the years has provided value to life agents.

I assume he has made good biz decisions in the past so I will assume he is making one with this case although I have questioned them myself on this forum.

I figure you don't get to be as rich and successful as Bob is by making really bad biz decisions... at least not too many of them.

I will admit that if he does not have 'the goods' on NAAIP, it will rank as a really bad decision... and we've all made them.

He obviously has deep pockets and so I guess if he wants to indulge himself in legal games, it is his right to do so. Personally if I wanted to throw money away on an indulgence, I'd either buy a sailboat or keep a mistress... maybe both.

It only takes 1 wrong turn to sink a ship.

I agree that he must be a fairly good businessman to have a successful business for so long. He saw the online opportunity way before most other agents did. He probably could have monetized the term4sale site A LOT more than he did... probably more than compulife. But whatever.


However, anger is a harsh mistress. His anger has blinded him in this situation.

If the lawyers took it on a contingent basis, then fine. But if he is throwing his own money at this its a terrible business decision.

Not because he wont win. But because he is ignoring his business. For years, compulife was the only game in town. Now there is super stiff competition. Instead of recognizing that and making necessary changes, Bob has continued to invest time and resources into this legal battle.


CompuLife did not keep up with the times. Had Bob hired a web designer and a programmer to update his service to look and feel like modern quote engines do, CompuLife would be worth millions, if not tens of millions right now.

He had the edge, got lazy/blinded, and now he doesnt. Same thing happened to BlockBuster, Radio Shack, Circuit City, Sears, etc.

You cant tread water in the business world. In this modern world, its the equivalent of slowly drowning.
And CompuLife is still treading water to this day from that perspective. The competition BLOWS them away now, it is easier to use, looks better, and has many more features. (and no, naaip is not the competition, we all know who "kicked" compulife off their throne)
------------------------------------

Last edited by scagnt83; 06-17-2017 at 11:32 PM.
  Reply With Quote to Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Old 06-17-2017, 02:20 PM   #23
Super Genius
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts:93
State: naaipmoses is an Insurance Agent from
Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court Re: Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Am I allowed to respond?
------------------------------------
  Reply With Quote to Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Old 06-17-2017, 03:32 PM   #24
Guru
Josh on Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts:11,757
State: Josh is an Insurance Agent from Virginia
Josh is a member of 5000 posts Super VIP club
Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court Re: Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
That's just it, for the time, energy, and money Bob has put into this, he could have been working on becoming more competitive. Plenty of inexpensive attention was drawn to explain just what naaip is, he had a long list of agents that wanted online quote engines he could have marketed to, and he could (even now) be focused on innovating his business. Honestly, I think he's just drink on rage at this point.
------------------------------------
  Reply With Quote to Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Old 06-20-2017, 06:03 AM   #25
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts:5
State: niceguy123 is an Insurance Agent from
Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court Re: Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Email I received.

Hello Josh,

naaip.org/judge-order-6-11-2017.pdf is a preliminary decision by a the Federal Judge in the case of:

COMPULIFE SOFTWARE, INC., Plaintiff, v. MOSES NEWMAN et al

You recall the letters, emails and phone calls from over two years ago from Robert Barney calling NAAIP "pirates" and threatening you with a lawsuit.

I knew that the claims and threats by Robert Barney were bogus, considering that I built the system and I am a competent computer programmer.

In any case, I was dumbfounded that Robert Barney actually filed a lawsuit against myself and NAAIP's owner.

The decision by the judge was on a Motion for Preliminary Injunction by the Plaintiff to shut down NAAIP and it's free term life quote engine. The basis of the Judge's decision was 100% based on Robert Barney's words. Robert Barney was deposed in late 2016 in a case that did not involve me or NAAIP's owner and was based on Robert Barney's words at the hearing itself. NAAIP's owner nor myself were not at the hearing. Our attorney represented us.

In reading the Judge's decision, the key point is that the Judge made a statement of fact - that Robert Barney's company was not harmed, was not damaged and his company has taken actions to prevent future harm.

The obvious question is why would anyone initiate a Federal Lawsuit under such circumstances?

Last week I was deposed for over eight hours in Miami, Florida. As well, Robert Barney, who represented his company as the most knowledgeable on the programming issues on hand, was deposed for a few hours by my attorney.

To cut to the chase, things went well.

How does this affect you?

Quite a few NAAIP agents were harmed by Robert Barney's threats of legal action. I, personally, had learned that software piracy carries a five year prison term.

Sit tight - Justice will prevail.

In the meantime, please revisit your NAAIP site considering that we are constantly improving agent and visitor experience.

The focus of NAAIP sites is now SEO (search engine optimization). Getting your site to the top of Google.

The reasoning is simple. SEO works and and numerous NAAIP agents love us for giving them their free "no strings" insurance agent website, hosting, quote engines, etc.

The time and effort on your behalf is minimal to get good results. NAAIP programmers and designers have set up "the perfect site" for Google search engine results. You will see the difference in organic web traffic rather quickly. You will earn more money!

Numbered Points:

Do not forward and mask - Do proper hosting via Name Servers
Your site should look "perfect" on all devices, smart phones, etc.
Your site should be "secure." An aesthetically pleasing green padlock in the address bar.

Daily conference call at 12 Noon ET places special emphasis on SEO - Getting your site to move up in the search engines.

Agents have NO obligation to contract through us or do any business through us. Leads that come into your site are yours.

Your site: - This site should be on a domain name that you own!

Your NAAIP Password:


Thank you for giving me the opportunity to help you earn more money.
------------------------------------
  Reply With Quote to Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Old 06-29-2017, 06:40 AM   #26
Super Genius
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts:93
State: naaipmoses is an Insurance Agent from
Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court Re: Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Originally Posted by Josh View Post
That's just it, for the time, energy, and money Bob has put into this, he could have been working on becoming more competitive. Plenty of inexpensive attention was drawn to explain just what NAAIP is, he had a long list of agents that wanted online quote engines he could have marketed to, and he could (even now) be focused on innovating his business. Honestly, I think he's just drink on rage at this point.
I met Bob face to face. Was in the same room as him for two whole days. To say the least, it was a very disturbing experience.

A man that is obsessed with my company. Spending well over $300,000 in a bad attempt to shut down a web program whose primary mission is a free website builder.

Really weird. There were two more recent decisions by the judge that also went against Bob - I feel bad for the insurance agents who did not sign up to NAAIP or cancelled their NAAIP site because of Bob.

There were a few agents that paid attorneys to help them figure this out - as well, there were a few agents that actually paid Bob - in order that they should not get sued. Really sad.
------------------------------------
  Reply With Quote to Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Reply to Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court 

  Insurance Agent Forum > Insurance Forums > Insurance Agents and Brokers Forum > Insurance Technology Forum




Similar Threads with Compulife Denied Prelim Injunctive Relief by Court
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Telesales Tips Thread gymguy Final Expense Forum 316 11-03-2016 04:59 AM
"ROBERT LASZEWSKI ...What Would Health Insurance Cost if the Supreme Court Overturns the Individual Mandate But Leaves.. kennethbroyles Health Care Reform Forum 7 06-27-2012 11:03 PM
Individidual Mandate Upheld - on to the Supreme Court Ann H Health Care Reform Forum 4 06-29-2011 06:08 PM
Virginia to Seek Fast Track Review by Supreme Court jbage007 Health Care Reform Forum 4 02-05-2011 06:53 AM
Why Isn't the Obamacare EMPLOYER Mandate Unconstitutional? somarco Health Care Reform Forum 51 02-05-2011 06:34 AM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:58 AM.

Forum enabled with vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.


Join the Forum - It's FREE

Share This Page



Weekly Poll

Where do we go from here? POLL
Nothing - No ACA fixes - status quo
29.82 %
HHS Rulings and band aid bills
17.54 %
Hail Mary repeal and/or replace bill
17.54 %
A bipartisan bill to fix ACA
35.09 %

Voters: 57. This poll is closed