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Old 06-25-2008, 11:03 AM   #1
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Ok,whats your thoughts... I may be dumb here, but for some reason can't get my arms around this one. When an internet lead is generated and sent to the agent's (3,4,5 however many agents) it goes out at the exact same time. lets assume your email program(outlook, outlook express, macmail) just at this exact moment cycled through and checked email, mine is set to the fastest setting of 60 sec., now, just 2 sec. later the lead comes in... which mean you don't get it for 58 sec... then 5 sec. to look at the screan... 7 sec. to dial number... thats 70 sec. to get the phone ringing...... ok, txinsurance gets the lead too... however his email program happens to check his email 4 sec. after the lead comes in...thats 66 sec. faster than me and he is on the phone well b4 me and getting the sale.... and i will never talk to the lead... or when i do 2 days later she is screaming that i'm agent number 87 calling

Well... thats the problem whats the solution... i need my leads at the exact moment the client fills out the form, is there a program or something out there to solve this problem?
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:37 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Peelerinsurance.com View Post
Ok,whats your thoughts... I may be dumb here, but for some reason can't get my arms around this one. When an internet lead is generated and sent to the agent's (3,4,5 however many agents) it goes out at the exact same time. lets assume your email program(outlook, outlook express, macmail) just at this exact moment cycled through and checked email, mine is set to the fastest setting of 60 sec., now, just 2 sec. later the lead comes in... which mean you don't get it for 58 sec... then 5 sec. to look at the screan... 7 sec. to dial number... thats 70 sec. to get the phone ringing...... ok, txinsurance gets the lead too... however his email program happens to check his email 4 sec. after the lead comes in...thats 66 sec. faster than me and he is on the phone well b4 me and getting the sale.... and i will never talk to the lead... or when i do 2 days later she is screaming that i'm agent number 87 calling

Well... thats the problem whats the solution... i need my leads at the exact moment the client fills out the form, is there a program or something out there to solve this problem?
Really does not have alot to do with the email program, Its the amount of time it takes from their(Lead Vendor) server to your mail server. I have had individuals on the phone with Leadpod and the emailed lead will show up a few minutes later.

Manually you never will, Too many Programmed Dialers, too Fast, Leadpod smokes them all. If you want to be the first caller work evenings and Saturdays, when the Boiler Rooms are not calling leads, thats your only choice, in todays shared Lead Market, or Jump on Board with Leadpod

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Jump on Board with Leadpod
I did.

Surprisingly, it is working well for me.

Thx for the tip, Dave.
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I did.

Surprisingly, it is working well for me.

Thx for the tip, Dave.
It does, and as you use it more, you will Learn more ways to be more successful, Times to have it on? How many leads? highest time of day for contacts. Like I said, before, as long as they are around I will not call another prospect intially. I am closing 1 out 2 Transfers and very very minimal lead quantity. I have learned to manage it and not just load up on leads and let it go, It doesnt work that way.

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I would never work any type of volume with shared leads without LeadPod. Low volume? LeadPod is a waste.

But I also don't let prospects get hammered - although LeadPod does indeed call for 7 days I'll take - 'em out of the call system before then.

The ROI is terrible - 1:3 - but just having my phone ring is priceless and to make makes up for the poor ROI.
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I would never work any type of volume with shared leads without LeadPod. Low volume? LeadPod is a waste.

But I also don't let prospects get hammered - although LeadPod does indeed call for 7 days I'll take - 'em out of the call system before then.

The ROI is terrible - 1:3 - but just having my phone ring is priceless and to make makes up for the poor ROI.

ROI 1:3 Somethings not right, I wouldnt be doing it if that was the case?
But I also quit using Producer Pipeline and I dont use Leadco or Prospect zone, so that could be the problem. I was getting higher transfer rates with PP but that didn't make me money so I got rid of them, Now its 1-2 I am closing.

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I would never work any type of volume with shared leads without LeadPod. Low volume? LeadPod is a waste.

But I also don't let prospects get hammered - although LeadPod does indeed call for 7 days I'll take - 'em out of the call system before then.

The ROI is terrible - 1:3 - but just having my phone ring is priceless and to make makes up for the poor ROI.

I agree John, after 3 days I remove most of the Leads, and then market them on the back end. Seems to work pretty smooth.
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[quote=healthagent;77933]I would never work any type of volume with shared leads without LeadPod. Low volume? LeadPod is a waste. quote]

What do you consider high volume and low volume?
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:55 PM   #9
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Less than 10 leads a day = no use for Leadpod
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Originally Posted by dmiller90 View Post
ROI 1:3 Somethings not right, I wouldnt be doing it if that was the case?
But I also quit using Producer Pipeline and I dont use Leadco or Prospect zone, so that could be the problem. I was getting higher transfer rates with PP but that didn't make me money so I got rid of them, Now its 1-2 I am closing.
I've played out the math a lot more so I have better personal stats:

Average lead price: $7.50
Average transfer percentage: 22%
Average commission: $610
Closing 1:4

Play it out:

100 leads = $750
22 transfers = $220
Total: $970

5 cases X $610 = $3,050 - $970 = $2,080

$970 returns $2,080 or 1:3 ratio.

I'll take it all day for my phone to ring.
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If you really want to be anal, sit at the lead database management tool (comes with some lead brokers) and hit refresh every two seconds, it gets there a lot quicker than email.

Also, I cannot agree, it definitely has to do with the mail server.

Yahoo for instance, sends and receives emails really late, my girlfrend sends me an email, sitting next to me, I hit refresh and . . . nothing, ht check mail again and nothing, Yahoo sucks so I'm sure others suck as well. I even received an email on yahoo three hours after I was supposed to be on a conference call.

Now I use Optonline and Thunderbird and it's been awesome for "real time' leads. I can have a conversation via email and it feels like instant messengering, that's how quick it is.
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$970 returns $2,080 or 1:3 ratio.

I'll take it all day for my phone to ring.
Didn't you just say a couple of posts ago that this 3:1 ROI was "terrible"? Please clarify.
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Yes...it's a terrible ROI but it's worth it for no headaches. Again, my phone rings.
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I am closing almost 50% of Leadpod transfers. I am floored.
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Wow
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Bob...very impressive, although I am not surprised. How many leads per week (or day) do you use?
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I do not think that "the speed" of your email service matters very much at all.
The bottom line is that people do not want to sit next to their computer for hours on end, waiting for a lead to appear.
As sure as god made little green apples, the moment you leave your computer to take a leak, a lead will arrive.
The biggest advantage leadpod and the boiler rooms have, is that their agents have to be in front of their computer, that is what they are paid to do.
You have to have some kind of alert for your leads, cell phone etc, otherwise you will have no chance of being the first one to call. Many times my cell phone alert has arrived two or three minutes before the email. So anal or not, it pays to stay logged in to your lead providers website. As soon as the cell phone rings, refresh leads, and bingo you have a head start.
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Leadpod gives you a life - walk around the house - grab some lunch - not worrying about calling the leads that come in.

You do need closing ability however or you'll take a huge bath.
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Mike, as we talked yesterday on the phone about this... i feel you are wrong... u are at the mercy of your email server...
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Different ways to skin a cat. I close about 1 in 15 shared leads, but I don't even worry about when it hits my email. I have everything forwarded to my Yahoo account and I know it is the slowest, but I don't worry about being the first. I stress that I am local and only deal in MI.

But, in the back of my mind, I know I need to speed up the email. What are good web based email sites?

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