LOL lets see here, god has had a conversation with moses and muhammad, muhammad put what he learned from god in the qu'ran, moses wrote nothing!!! The bibles are full of words of men not god..
Again the only references to moses & jesus are only found in religious writings.
That is incorrect. Try the book"A Case for Christ" written by a former Chicago Tribune court reporter and atheist. His mission was to determine if there was enough evidence to proof there was Cgrist, using non Biblical history. It is an interesting read and answers many of the questions some ask about this subject and interviews a variety of historians.
Again no scientific proof at all, none..... Books like the one you have shown are based on interruption, if you ask everyone that just looked at the Mona Lisa two questions: who was she, and what is she thinking, you will get as many different answers as there are people.
There are no real hard facts to back up the story of jesus or moses.
Next what is real strange is depending on what part of the world you live in, is how jesus is viewed. In the USA he has white skin with blue eye's and light hair, yet in Africa his is a black man with black eye's and black hair, in Europe he has dark skin, brown hair and brown eye's..
You would think that the son of god would at least make sure we know what he looks like, I mean if he comes back how will we know it is him?? what if he has yellow skin and slanted eye's.....
Books like the one you have shown are based on interruption,
I assume you mean interpretation, but again you are incorrect. The above mentioned books documents the writings of non christians regarding Jesus and some of the things happening around him. It is an interesting read, just thought I would reference, not interested in getting in a p-ssing contest here. I respect your right to believe as you wish, you should do the same for others.
Books like the one you have shown are based on interruption,
I assume you mean interpretation, but again you are incorrect. The above mentioned books documents the writings of non christians regarding Jesus and some of the things happening around him. It is an interesting read, just thought I would reference, not interested in getting in a p-ssing contest here. I respect your right to believe as you wish, you should do the same for others.
Again I have all the respect in the world for what you or any person believes in, I just find it very strange how people are willing to kill each other in the name of god.
If I told you a story about the king of the gods would you believe me?
His name is zeus, or how about the story of Ra, how about Ganesha?
Excuse me. I should have said, if "they" say so. You being one of "they".
Quantum mechanics and the "thought experiment" aka,, Schrodinger's cat.
If you understand this, then you will see how hard it is to believe what some person/people write in a books about the exisitance of jesus or god.
Next is all the accounts and writings about jesus take place 50 or more years after his death..why is that?? To bad we can not all come back in 2000 years to see what people believe in.. Do you think it will still be what it is today??
It is very difficult for intellectuals to believe in a faith based God. However, C.S. Lewis's "Mere Christianity" is another interesting take from a former agnostic and intellectual.
It is very difficult for intellectuals to believe in a faith based God. However, C.S. Lewis's "Mere Christianity" is another interesting take from a former agnostic and intellectual.
Very true bluemarlin, my whole point is that we as humans need to have a greater separation of chruch and state. And keep religion in the home, the church, the temple etc..
Stop killing each other in the name of a "god".. just look to the middle east, they have been killing each other for 1000's of years in the name of "god" crazy if you ask me, and what a waste of human life.
Who knows but the next Einstein may have just been killed today in a car bombing, all in gods name...
Very true bluemarlin, my whole point is that we as humans need to have a greater separation of chruch and state.
Really? I thought all along your point was about there being no proof of Jesus or God. Now you are saying your argument has to do with the separation of church and state? Interesting. Last I checked, that is the law of the land.
Originally Posted by hodaka1974
Stop killing each other in the name of a "god".. just look to the middle east, they have been killing each other for 1000's of years in the name of "god" crazy if you ask me, and what a waste of human life.
Yep. And they aren't serving the same Lord I am serving. They do not speak for my God. I have yet to kill anyone in the name of my God.
Originally Posted by hodaka1974
Who knows but the next Einstein may have just been killed today in a car bombing, all in gods name...
Maybe. But they aren't doing it in the name of my God.
Again no scientific proof at all, none..... Books like the one you have shown are based on interruption, if you ask everyone that just looked at the Mona Lisa two questions: who was she, and what is she thinking, you will get as many different answers as there are people.
There are no real hard facts to back up the story of jesus or moses.
Next what is real strange is depending on what part of the world you live in, is how jesus is viewed. In the USA he has white skin with blue eye's and light hair, yet in Africa his is a black man with black eye's and black hair, in Europe he has dark skin, brown hair and brown eye's..
You would think that the son of god would at least make sure we know what he looks like, I mean if he comes back how will we know it is him?? what if he has yellow skin and slanted eye's.....
So those kind of books are based on "interruption?" I think I'll quote my favorite agnostic since I think it applies to you." It's better to remain silent and let people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Mark Twain
Again the only references to moses & jesus are only found in religious writings. We can not find any mention of moses during the time frame he lived, other than the bible.
No evedence has been found at all to prove he did live, yet in the same time frame we find a plethora of information about the people, the ruler, and the society. And no mention of the 12 plague's, or any jewish leader named moses.
Same with jesus, a ton of information about how the peolpe lived, the ruler, the whole socitey, yet no mention of jesus..
Maybe it is just the way my mind works but I find this to be strange, we have two people that had this huge inpact on the human story, yet we can not find any hard/real facts that they did in fact exisit.
This why I say you need to look out side the religious history if you want to understand the real history of man.
I have not made any personal attack on your religion, nor on you. My feelings about god are exactly the same as I feel about Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and natural blonds. None of them actually exist.
But I'll defend your right to believe anything you like.
Rick
I don't know how you think you got here on earth, but my hat is off to you. It takes so much more faith to believe that you evolved from a bunch of accidental events into the amazing human that you are today than to simply believe that there is a Supreme Being (God) ought there in charge of everything.
The difference is that if you are right, then I'm just dead (as are you). If those of us that believe in God are right, then you are going to have to answer to Him some day. For someone as bright as you, I would think it would be an easier choice to pick the one that is most in your favor. Just as thought......
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