And here is your policy. The short form. (Email me if you want the long form). Please read it all the way thru, it is relatively short and not meant to be offensive, although it may be. (My hands are clean). I sincerely and kindly ask that you consider it. And then I'm done - I have to go sell temporal insurance. I'll be around...
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Do You Think You're a Good Person?
Have you ever told a lie?
Even for a good purpose?
I can't believe you've never told a lie. The Bible says we all were born liars. I think you should change your answer. What does that make you?
If someone lied to you, what would you call them?
That makes you a liar.
We might not like that word - we like to say we're 'just human', or that we 'stretched the truth'. But the truth is - if we've told a lie, we're a liar. Have you ever taken anything that did not belong to you?
Even something small?
Are you sure?
You've never taken a pen, pencil, or piece of paper that didn't belong to you? That's pretty hard to believe. That makes you a thief.
It sounds harsh, but the truth is - if we've ever stolen anything, we're a thief. Have you ever looked at another person with lust or desire?
You never looked at anyone with desire??
I find that pretty hard to believe. Are you sure? Jesus said, that makes you an adulterer.
Jesus said in Matthew 5 that to look at someone with lust is to have committed adultery with them. Have you ever been angry with another person?
You've never been angry at someone??
I find that pretty hard to believe. Are you sure you don't want to change your answer? Jesus said, that makes you a murderer.
Jesus said in Matthew 5 that whoever is angry with his brother without cause is guilty of murder. Have you ever taken God's name in vain?
Have you ever used God's name as a curse word or to express disgust? Are you sure??
Taking God's name in vain also means to use God's name lightly or without thought. Are you positive you've never done that? The Bible calls this blasphemy.
According to God's standard, the Bible, that makes you a blasphemer. You may not realize this...
...but those are just five of the Ten Commandments.
By your own admission and the standard of God's law, the Ten Commandments, you are a lying, thieving, blasphemous, murderous, adulterer at heart.
And you have to face God on judgment day!
If God were to judge you by His law, would you be innocent or guilty?
Be honest with yourself and God Innocent? According to the Bible, that is not true....
For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23
There is none righteous, no not one. Romans 3:10 Even if we have kept most of the law, we are still guilty.
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. James 2:10 Based on your guilty verdict, would you go to heaven or hell?
The Bible says that all murderers, adulterers, thieves, and liars will have their place in the lake of fire - Revelation 21:8.
Heaven? Why?
Do you think God should overlook your sin?
Should God allow murderers, thieves, and adulterers into heaven?
Colossians 1:21 says you are an enemy of God by your wicked works. But, if you knew a human judge who would not punish a guilty rapist for his crimes, would you describe him as a just judge??
No, He would be a corrupt judge.
God could never be a corrupt judge.
Because of His holiness and justice, he must judge sin. The Bible offers hope.
II Peter 3:9 says that God is "not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance." Imagine you are standing in front of a judge, GUILTY of serious crime. All the evidence has been presented and there is no doubt of your guilt. Your apologies and good works cannot erase your crimes; therefore you must be punished. The fine for your crime is $250,000 and you have no money.
The judge is about to pass sentence when someone you don't even know rushes in and pays your fine for you! The court accepts the money and declares that you are free to go.
That is exactly what God did for you on the cross 2000 years ago.
Romans 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Jesus loved you so much that he paid the penalty for your sin, so you wouldn't have to!
God has provided a way of escape.
And that is through the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Repent of Your Sin
That means turning away from your sin and asking God to forgive you for breaking His law.
Jesus said in Luke 13:3:
"Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." Refuse Your Own Self-Effort
Realize that there is no way you can work your way to heaven or somehow be "good enough" to earn heaven.
Ephesians 2:8-9, "For by GRACE ye are saved through faith and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: NOT of works, lest any man should boast." Trust in Jesus Christ as Your Only Hope
Trust in Jesus, like you would trust a parachute if you were jumping out of an airplane. You wouldn't just believe in the parachute, you would put it on (trust it) and jump (act on it). That is how we must put our faith and trust in Jesus as our only hope of heaven.
Acts 4:12, "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Receive Jesus Christ as Your Savior and Lord
Turn your life over to him.
II Corinthians 5:17, "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." Today with all your heart, turn away from your sin, and surrender your life to Jesus Christ. Please don't put it off. You may die today and then it will be too late. Put your faith and trust in Him today.
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Personally, if you want to have the greatest understanding of ancient religious rituals including the culmination of the 10 commandments, i highly encourage you to go rent the movie History of the World, Part 1.
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[COLOR=#000066]"Tell me and I will forget. Show me and I will remember. Involve me and I will understand." Confucius
Naaaaa...neither holy nor a war, just life choices, a clear AND a little different presentation of the gospel (and VERY MUCH in keeping with the theme of this thread: "health" ins.; and my rebuttal for "fire" ins.). This particular presentation (this is the short form) helped me, maybe it will help someone else. If not, just ignore it and go rent the recommended movie! L8r
By the way, I thought the first post was amusing as I have had health insurance prospects proclaim that if they get sick Jesus will heal them.
Show those clients Proverbs 6:6-9 "Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise. Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, provideth her meat in the summer and gathereth her food in the harvest. How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? When wilt thou arise out of thy sleep?"
The ant is wise enough to prepare for potentially predictable circumstances and the sluggard is too lazy to prepare for anything. Don't be a sluggard, prepare for the worst and pray for the best! Now take the damn health insurance!!!! LOL!
Just because we don't know the answer (how the universe began; what came before the big bang, etc), does NOT become any evidence there is a god.
But that's not what I said...
Originally Posted by GreenSky
You can't prove the existance of god just because it can't be proven god does not exist.
But that's exactly what evolutionists are doing with non-existent transitional forms!
Originally Posted by GreenSky
By the way, there are how many different Christian "sects". If one is right, then the rest are wrong. How do I know that Catholics are right? What about Methodists?
Denominations are man-made. God does not deal with denominations, he deals with individuals, some of whom may be in those denominations
Originally Posted by GreenSky
Maybe the Scientologists? Okay, maybe not them.
Agreed.
Originally Posted by GreenSky
Perhaps radical Islam is the true religion.
Surely you jest!
Originally Posted by GreenSky
Or maybe I'm right and there is no god.
...or more accurately, no living Saviour, in which case we are all then dead in our trespasses and sins, all is ultimately futile, and there is no lasting hope.
I would futher suggest that those who place faith in the new testament of the bible spend at least some time studying the Gnostic scriptures as well.
Yeah the Gnostics were cool. They basically thought that this world and the god that created it were naturally evil, and that it's up to humankind to bring light to the world. And anyone who doesn't think God can be a real jerk should just take a look at what he did to the Jews, his chosen people! Yay for Gnosticism!
Yeah the Gnostics were cool. They basically thought that this world and the god that created it were naturally evil, and that it's up to humankind to bring light to the world. And anyone who doesn't think God can be a real jerk should just take a look at what he did to the Jews, his chosen people! Yay for Gnosticism!
Ummm....real succinct there, betrays depth of thought.
Hey, it ain't over, so if you count the score now, your statistical probabilities are thrown way off. But in fact, they will be thrown out. By the very Person Who created them.
Originally Posted by Tar Rat
...And anyone who doesn't think God can be a real jerk should just take a look at what he did to the Jews, his chosen people!...
(In John Wayne drawl with stern, flashing eyes right on you): Yep, killed one jes fer you, in your place, pilgrim. Better hope ya don't miss it, lest ya live up to yer namesake there, forever. (end John Wayne Drawl)
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Hey, I know I'm just fanning the flames here, but don't you think it's kind of funny that the bible doesn't contain a book entitled "The Gospel According to Jesus" ? I mean, really the whole thing is second-hand information, even if you don't count the fact that you can't confirm that the other books were actually written by J.C.'s buddies. It takes a lot of faith to believe that the book even contains Christ's true message, no wonder you Christians have to gather in huge numbers every week to reassure yourselves that everyone else sucks.
So...if such a book was in the bible, you would take it as 'gospel' and not a forgery?
It would make it a little easier to swallow at any rate. Why would the gospel of Jesus be more likely to be a forgery than the gospel of John or Peter? Didn't they all live around the same time?
Just wait untill you get to know me better. But back on point, I just think it's strange that J.C. never wrote anything down himself. It makes me wonder if today's Christianity is really what he had in mind, that's all.
I just think it's strange that J.C. never wrote anything down himself.
He didn't? How did you come to that conclusion?
Originally Posted by Tar Rat
It makes me wonder if today's Christianity is really what he had in mind, that's all.
I often wonder the same thing. But don't get sucked into thinking that the media is a fair portrayer of Christianity.
Many Christians go humbly unnoticed and make a huge difference in their communities. Our church is frequented by prostitutes, drug dealers, meth heads, satanists, the sick and elderly, those that have adopted crack babies and abused children...and lives are changed. Addictions are broken, relationships healed...and forgiveness, grace and mercy lived out every day. It's incredible to watch. This is where Christianity is rooted...not some opulent TV show that elevates people with bad hair.
Hey Tar Rat, I don't think you suck either! I speak strongly about these things because 1., I believe them, 2., it's easy to in a forum, 3., that's what it takes for me, I'm hardheaded.
A true Christian does not think everyone else sucks that is not a Christian. Every Christian was once not a Christian at some time. No one is born a Christian.
Many Christians go humbly unnoticed and make a huge difference in their communities. Our church is frequented by prostitutes, drug dealers, meth heads, satanists, the sick and elderly, those that have adopted crack babies and abused children...and lives are changed. Addictions are broken, relationships healed...and forgiveness, grace and mercy lived out every day. It's incredible to watch. This is where Christianity is rooted...not some opulent TV show that elevates people with bad hair.
This is an excellent point. It's easy to forget that the real power of relgion is in the people, not the church.
The people are not separate from the church. The people are the church.
Jesus did write a book. He is the author and finisher of true christianity. His authorship is in his creation, ministry, death, burial, resurrection, and return, etc.
If Noah's Ark happened, after the waters receded and the ark landed everything would have been dead including all plant life. What did the animals eat? Just making people go hmmmmmm. Also, how did the world get re-populated? Noah had a ton of kids?
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