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Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD My favorite bible phrase is from Psalms 9:16 "Be fruitful and surround thyself among believers. However, the non-believers must ...


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Old 06-23-2007, 05:55 PM   #141
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Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD View Post
My favorite bible phrase is from Psalms 9:16

"Be fruitful and surround thyself among believers. However, the non-believers must be respected, for they may be the righteous ones in the end.
Uhhh???.......Is this the "Chumps from Oxford" version or the King James Version, etc...Are you sure your ref the correct verse?
GO get a Bible.......and find Psalms 9:16. Does it actually read as you say? Or does it read otherwise??
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Old 06-23-2007, 06:08 PM   #142
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Originally Posted by CHAS.R View Post
Funny but actually yes, God/Jesus do have opinions about our money. There are 3,350 references to money and invest directly from The Bible!
Too many to mention here.
IE: [COLOR=darkslateblue]"Steady plodding brings prosperity"[/COLOR] [COLOR=navy]Proverbs 21:5[/COLOR]
Apply that to your EIA's.....

Another....
[COLOR=navy]"Divide your portions to seven, even eight for you do not know what misfortunes may occur on the earth" Ecclesiastes 11:2[/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000080]Cheers matie![/COLOR]
I think Allianz has an EIA based on the idea that "whatsoever ye shall sow, I reap."

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Old 06-23-2007, 06:12 PM   #143
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Originally Posted by Winter View Post
I think Allianz has an EIA based on the idea that "whatsoever ye shall sow, I reap."

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OK...That's funny! No...that's F'n hilarious!!

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Old 06-23-2007, 06:24 PM   #144
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Originally Posted by CHAS.R View Post
As an athiest, what happens to you when you die?
Not being facetious I'm just curious about your "Honest" perspective.
When you die, you're dead a real long time. This is it. There is nothing more.

It would be nice if that wasn't true, but it is. Death ends your life. The only thing that happens when you die is people have memories of you. If that's life after death, then that's all I can hope for.

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Old 06-23-2007, 06:34 PM   #145
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Originally Posted by GreenSky View Post
When you die, you're dead a real long time. This is it. There is nothing more.

It would be nice if that wasn't true, but it is. Death ends your life. The only thing that happens when you die is people have memories of you. If that's life after death, then that's all I can hope for.

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Ok Thanks. I respect your thoughts. All I can hope is that I get to see you in Heaven.
Do you speak for all atheists or just yourself?
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Old 06-23-2007, 07:01 PM   #146
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Originally Posted by CHAS.R View Post
Ok Thanks. I respect your thoughts. All I can hope is that I get to see you in Heaven.
Do you speak for all atheists or just yourself?
Do you speak for all Christians?
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Originally Posted by GreenSky View Post
Do you speak for all Christians?
I speak for Christ..as best I can.

Do you speak for all atheists or just yourself?

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Old 06-23-2007, 08:45 PM   #148
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Originally Posted by CHAS.R View Post
Uhhh???.......Is this the "Chumps from Oxford" version or the King James Version, etc...Are you sure your ref the correct verse?
GO get a Bible.......and find Psalms 9:16. Does it actually read as you say? Or does it read otherwise??
Yes...it actually says that. Here's another two of my favorites:

From Revelations 5:8 Where there is man, there can be no peace, for religion is the crutch of all mankind.

From John 11:7 Don't go to the Forbidden Zone Taylor. You may not like what you find.
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Originally Posted by CHAS.R View Post
I speak for Christ..as best I can.

Do you speak for all atheists or just yourself?
I would never believe I'm so important that I could speak for anyone but myself.

However, since atheists do not believe in god, it's a pretty good bet atheists don't believe in heaven or hell.

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Old 06-23-2007, 09:21 PM   #150
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Originally Posted by GreenSky View Post
I would never believe I'm so important that I could speak for anyone but myself.

However, since atheists do not believe in god, it's a pretty good bet atheists don't believe in heaven or hell.

Rick
Yourself??....OK.....
Since your a betting man and an atheist.....what I am hearing is that you would bet 'Nothingness" over "Eternity" am I right?

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Old 06-23-2007, 09:31 PM   #151
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Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD View Post
Yes...it actually says that. Here's another two of my favorites:

From Revelations 5:8 Where there is man, there can be no peace, for religion is the crutch of all mankind.

From John 11:7 Don't go to the Forbidden Zone Taylor. You may not like what you find.

Goodness.....You've got quite a Bible there dont you? Good luck with that "CHUMPS from OXFORD" version. Careful who you spread it to now....Jesus is watching you....

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Originally Posted by CHAS.R View Post
Yourself??....OK.....
Since your a betting man and an atheist.....what I am hearing is that you would bet 'Nothingness" over "Eternity" am I right?
Correct. When you're dead, as far as you are concerned, there is nothing.
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Old 06-23-2007, 10:30 PM   #153
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[quote=Greensky; I would never believe I'm so important that I could speak for anyone but myself.
However, since atheists do not believe in god, it's a pretty good bet atheists don't believe in heaven or hell.
"When you're dead, as far as you are concerned, there is nothing".[/quote]


As far as "who" is concerned Rick? Me? Or you?
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Originally Posted by CHAS.R View Post
As far as "who" is concerned Rick? Me? Or you?
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While I don't quite understand your question about "who" my belief is that when anyone dies, they are dead. No Valhallah, No Heaven, just dead. Do not pass go. You're gone.

Using faith is not proof of anything. People can believe what they want. They want to believe in the Easter Bunny, great! They want to believe in god, great!

No one has ever been able to prove the existance of any god, much less THEIR god. They just believe. I need more. I'm a realist.

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Originally Posted by GreenSky View Post
While I don't quite understand your question about "who" my belief is that when anyone dies, they are dead. No Valhallah, No Heaven, just dead. Do not pass go. You're gone.

Using faith is not proof of anything. People can believe what they want. They want to believe in the Easter Bunny, great! They want to believe in god, great!

No one has ever been able to prove the existance of any god, much less THEIR god. They just believe. I need more. I'm a realist.

Rick
"Realist" OK...I get that. My best friend is a realist and I am Ok with that.
Food for thought....
100 years ago (1907) a cell phone was not a reality. But today it is a reality. Is this the Realist mentality you are talking about? Or something else? Where do we draw the line at "reality" is it temporal or potential?
The end of time will proove.

Anyway friend.....As far as I am concerned you are a good man. I hope you feel the same about me. Thanks for sharing. I appreciate...

I'm going for a cocktail now. Best regards, CHAS.R
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CHAS.R - I have much respect for you. Thanks for an interesting conversation.

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My son believes in all his heart that there's a Santa Clause. So is there? You know what happens when you die? Nothing. You die. It's the ultimate act of vanity for humans to think they'll somehow live on forever. It's an unwillingness to accept finality. Oh....so there are just two places? You either burn in hell forever or go to Heaven? Now that's something I couldn't even get my son to believe. Santa Clause comes off as more believable then that.
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Originally Posted by john_petrowski View Post
My son believes in all his heart that there's a Santa Clause. So is there? You know what happens when you die? Nothing. You die. It's the ultimate act of vanity for humans to think they'll somehow live on forever. It's an unwillingness to accept finality. Oh....so there are just two places? You either burn in hell forever or go to Heaven? Now that's something I couldn't even get my son to believe. Santa Clause comes off as more believable then that.
Santa never gave his life to save humanity from hell. But he gave the coolest toys...
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CHAS.R - I have much respect for you. Thanks for an interesting conversation.

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