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Originally Posted by al3
Forty million guys like you with a "god is on our side" attitude... and we got 1880 Russia all over ...
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Originally Posted by al3
Forty million guys like you with a "god is on our side" attitude... and we got 1880 Russia all over again... and... well that can't be good for me!
Al
Yup. You have to be careful when you promote the idea that one religion is at fault for all the problems in the world. Someone else might agree with that completely but conclude that it is Jews. You need to learn something about history. If everything that you say about Christians is true then that paves the way for everything that radical Islam says about Jews as being true. And so it goes. You are right, that can't be good for you.
Even the long term advocate of Israel, Jimmy Carter has turned against the Jews in the mideast and is pro-Palestinian. Why? Because the Jews talked a good game of peace and oppression and historic victimhood and all of that but given a little bit of real power of their own they put an iron fist and a boot in the face of people who had as much or more right to be there as well. Everyone likes to think that other peoples religion stinks but theirs does not. You can see that in Huckabee but not yourself.
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"they put an iron fist and a boot in the face of people"...
On the surface, I can see how people would conclude that. But in reality, there could have been a Palestinian state years ago. But a legitimate offer was rebuffed by the founder of terrorism...Mr. Arafat. If he had used the hundreds of millions of dollars on his own people, instead of funnelling it out of the country, who knows how history might have changed.
The "iron fist and boot" has been sporadically used to combat homicide bombers and the various Intifadas.
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Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD
"they put an iron fist and a boot in the face of people"...
On the surface, I can see how people would conclude that. But in reality, there could have been a Palestinian state years ago. But a legitimate offer was rebuffed by the founder of terrorism...Mr. Arafat. If he had used the hundreds of millions of dollars on his own people, instead of funnelling it out of the country, who knows how history might have changed.
The "iron fist and boot" has been sporadically used to combat homicide bombers and the various Intifadas.
All of that is so. My point is only that what we think of as the bad religion or the good religion is subject to change from time to time. However, right you are, it does not change the fact that Jews are increasingly seen as the aggressors and the bad guys compared to recent years. Jews who are quick to portray Christians as the bad guys could easily wake up and find that they too are now seen as the bad guys even among non-Islamic westerners. The painting of one religion as all this or that is the dynamic that takes people to "relocation camps." Jews should understand this better than most but many go in a different direction and look for the chance to put someone else at the bottom of the barrel.
We've seen this stuff for the past 50 years. My fear is that the Huckabilly crowd will believe it and un-pack their Lester Maddox ax-handles, their lynching rope, and all the other stuff I'm sure they have well preserved.
I don't for a minute believe that 90% of anyone (Christians, non-Christians, atheists, ect.) believes this site, but I'm sure 10 to 15 percent of them do... and they are the ones that are being courted by the Right Rev. Mr. Huckabilly. The other 90% will say "Nah, he really wouldn't cart off everyone to re-loc camps" and they will just go ahead and vote for him for all the other warm and fuzzy Christian stuff he says.
Its' going to be a scary couple of months for everyone who is not a Christian, that's for sure.
Hey Winter, can I come live with you? What are you going to tell the HuckGastapo when they show up at your door asking if you have any Jews living with you? (I sure as hell know what the majority of the French and German and Polish "christians" did.) You going to give me up... or will you stand and fight.
Yeah, like I don't already know the answer to THAT!
Some of you guys talk a good game... but I wonder how you are going (will) react when you get the knock on the door!
If every Jew took one German with them... there would never have been a WW2!
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Originally Posted by al3
Its' going to be a scary couple of months for everyone who is not a Christian, that's for sure.
Hey Winter, can I come live with you? What are you going to tell the HuckGastapo when they show up at your door asking if you have any Jews living with you? (I sure as hell know what the majority of the French and German and Polish "christians" did.) You going to give me up... or will you stand and fight.
Al
I think you will find that as Huckaboo falls out in the next couple primaries or more that the rays will find a hole in your tin foil hat and you will continue your crusade but against Mitt Romney. Ya think?
In regard to giving you up to the gestapo, you are the one who is promoting the idea that people of one religion are all despicable. So, if they show up at your door-you live by the sword, you die by the sword.
What a frigging embarassment to Jews to be promoting this kind of hate speech and intolerance toward another religion after so many called out to the world against this type of thing. You need to learn something about history.
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Originally Posted by Winter
continue your crusade but against Mitt Romney. Ya think?
Why Romney? Why would I have a case against him? You really never did read any history. In the mid-1800s in this country the Mormons were the "new Jews."
after so many called out to the world against this type of thing.
Oh yes, the world really gave damn in the 1930s and 40s.
Believe me, if Iran nuked Israel, you would say "Oh that is so terrible" but you really wouldn't give a damn.... any more than most people give a damn about what happened in what was Yugoslavia or what is going on in Kenya today. (Of course, should a couple of Christians be killed, then the big 'concern' will start.)
People have to take care of themselves... and the people we have to protect ourselves from... are those who think like you... because I have zero doubt that when Huckabilly gives his "We need to convert the Jews" you are going to be out there at my front door... looking down the barrel of my shotgun!
The idea of Jews or any other minority standing up to you and other Christians (you say you are not one... but I don't believe you) and saying "Never again" does not give you a lot of comfort, does it.
After 2000 years of terrorism, of discrimination, of torture, and of damnation by fervent "God on our side" Christians (like you)... ask me if I care.
You need to learn something about history.
From your mouth to God's ear.
Believe me, you're not the one to teach ANYONE history since you don't even know your own.
"History does not entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Why Romney? Why would I have a case against him? You really never did read any history. In the mid-1800s in this country the Mormons were the "new Jews."
Oh yes, the world really gave damn in the 1930s and 40s.
Believe me, if Iran nuked Israel, you would say "Oh that is so terrible" but you really wouldn't give a damn.... any more than most people give a damn about what happened in what was Yugoslavia or what is going on in Kenya today. (Of course, should a couple of Christians be killed, then the big 'concern' will start.)
People have to take care of themselves... and the people we have to protect ourselves from... are those who think like you... because I have zero doubt that when Huckabilly gives his "We need to convert the Jews" you are going to be out there at my front door... looking down the barrel of my shotgun!
The idea of Jews or any other minority standing up to you and other Christians (you say you are not one... but I don't believe you) and saying "Never again" does not give you a lot of comfort, does it.
After 2000 years of terrorism, of discrimination, of torture, and of damnation by fervent "God on our side" Christians (like you)... ask me if I care.
From your mouth to God's ear.
Believe me, you're not the one to teach ANYONE history since you don't even know your own.
"History does not entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
Al
Yeah that's what I bin think'in. Get Huckabee elected then we y'all can go out get some shot guns and go convert some Jews. Al, please consult a professional about these Paraniod Schizophrenic episodes you live daily with. Seriously.
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Originally Posted by al3
Yeah that's what I bin think'in. Get Huckabee elected then we y'all can go out get some shot guns
And ax handles... don't forget the ax handles! You can't have a decent pogrom without them.
And Skokie is right near Chicago. You won't have to go far, will you?
please consult a professional about these Paraniod Schizophrenic episodes you live daily with.
Yes, doctor. Whatever you say. (But at least 'say it' correctly. I think the phrase you want is not "live daily with" but "live with daily." Small item, but it if you're going to do a hate-posting you want it so that the majority of people will easily understand it.... since most of them who are going to agree with you will be of limited intelligence and surely have a limited vocabulary. KISS.)
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Believe me, if Iran nuked Israel, you would say "Oh that is so terrible" but you really wouldn't give a damn....
Al
That is not true because I believe first and foremost that Iran is a threat to the world not just Israel.
I will concede however that the tide has turned in the US and worldwide where the interest in protecting Israel is becoming less and less. This is due to Israels aggression toward the Palestinians and toward Hesbollah in the late war where Isreal came out looking like the bad guy. I dont agree with this view but it is clear that Jews are now struggling to overcome the image of aggressor even while you are trying to hang all the problems in the world on Christians.
In addition, the support for Israel is less because Americans are getting tired of protecting Israel year after year all while Jews such as yourself tell us what shits Christians and Americans are. Who are Israel's other friends in this world? Okay, you can get back to me later on that one.
So, yes. I think Israrel is in trouble bigtime. Keep telling American Christians how worthless they are and how they have never done Jews any good and see if that helps. When the United States stops funding Israel's defense, the place will be wall-to-wall fundamentalists within a matter of weeks. Tell them about Huckabee and how glad you dont have to put up with the Christians anymore.
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In addition, the support for Israel is less because Americans are getting tired of protecting Israel year after year all while Jews such as yourself tell us what shits Christians and Americans are. Who are Israel's other friends in this world? Okay, you can get back to me later on that one.
You think the US defends Israel because it is a Jewish state? You don't think that if it were a Muslim state but friendly to US interests that it would be the same?
We (Jews) are not stupid. We know the only reason the USA "props up" Israel is for political and strategic reasons and has nothing to do with anything else.
Jewish life is cheap, and has always been so to the Christians of the world. No one gives a rats ass about us. The difference is that for the first time in history... we've stopped caring. I'm the first generation of Jews (post-Holocaust) that has stood up to the Christian majority and said "Never again." And after 2000 years of having your way with us, boy are you pissed!
There is no oil in Israel. If Iran or the Saudis invaded tomorrow, you really think the US would send in its own tanks and that Christian boys would go and fight for Jews ... in a land without oil?
I want what you're smokin'.
So, yes. I think Israrel is in trouble bigtime. Keep telling American Christians how worthless they are and how they have never done Jews any good and see if that helps.
So instead we should let you keep us out of 'your' universities, your banks, and of course your neighborhoods. We should let you discriminate against us (the same way you did so well against African-Americans and the Chinese before that)? Torture? You can't wait for the HuckaInquisition?
Sorry, Winter, that train has passed. The "new" Jews are not afraid to stand up to the Christian majority and say "We know what Huckabilly sands for... what that 'white cross' commercial was really all about (bookshelf, my ass) and what yesterday's speech in front of the 'fish' was trying to say...and while we are scared silly of him... we're not going to roll over and let him and his followers send us to the camps... not again."
There is nothing Christians hate more than someone from another tradition telling them that they are full of s--t. It took us around 2000 years to get the message. The Afro Americans only had to wait about a 150 before they got the message.
Tell them about Huckabee and how glad you dont have to put up with the Christians anymore.
Don't you people ever get tired hearing yourself talk about how terrific you are?
Two words: Tin foil
My two words: "Never again."
Why you continue this is beyond me. You are NOT going to convince me that Huckabilly or his brand of Christian "charity" is in my best interest. I am not going to support him and I'm going to do what I can to keep others from as well. And that just kills you. that a Jew would stand up and do that... after 2000 years of hiding and cowering from people like you.
Times have changed, Winter. I know you don't like it... but it's a fact.
So again, lets just end it here. I'm done. I hope you are.
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Originally Posted by al3
There is no oil in Israel. If Iran or the Saudis invaded tomorrow, you really think the US would send in its own tanks and that Christian boys would go and fight for Jews ... in a land without oil?
Al
No, I am agreeing with that point. Times have changed. The United Nations originally established Israel and has since abandoned it or gone pro-Arab, and key advocates in the United States such as Jimmy Carter haved turned away, and the United States outside the Jewish Community really has other concerns now. And yes, Israel has no oil. So Israel will soon be free of all that American and Christian influence that has dragged the Jews down for so long in the mideast. They can work things out with their neighbors such as Iran and Syria. Since Syria and Iran live in the neighborhood and are not Christian this should work out better than having the United States meddling in their affairs. They dont need the planes and missiles either to defend themselves against the Christians so we will cut that off too. Americans were raised to believe that they have a common interest and a friendship with Israel but you have pointed out that that is all an ugly utilitarian farce foisted upon Jews by Christians so your wish may come true very soon and all the bad boy Christians will just stand back and let you "never again" it all by yourself as you wish. Israel can rely on their other friends (who did you say they were now?)
Go for it. Maybe Iran will give Israel a discount on all of that nuclear power that they are generating for peaceful purposes.
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