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KeithHennessey.com » Understanding the Kennedy health care bill

Ver the weekend a draft of Senator Kennedy’s (D-MA) health care bill leaked. After playing with Adobe Acrobat, here is the text of the draft Kennedy bill as a text file (173 K), and as a single Acrobat file (3.4 MB). Update: I fixed the broken link to the PDF. Unlike the leaked version, both of these are searchable.

Calling it the “Kennedy” bill is something of an overstatement. Senator Kennedy chairs the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee, and his staff wrote the draft. By all reports, however, Chairman Kennedy’s health is preventing him from being heavily involved in the drafting. Senator Reid has designated Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) to supervise the process, but as best I can tell, it’s really the Kennedy committee staff who are making most of the key decisions. For now I will call it the Kennedy-Dodd bill.

As the committee staff emphasized to the press after the leak, this is an interim draft. I assume things will move around over the next several weeks as discussions among Senators and their staffs continue. This is therefore far from a final product, but it provides a useful insight into current thinking among some key Senate Democrats.

Here are 15 things to know about the draft Kennedy-Dodd health bill.


The Kennedy-Dodd bill would create an individual mandate requiring you to buy a “qualified” health insurance plan, as defined by the government. If you don’t have “qualified” health insurance for a given month, you will pay a new Federal tax. Incredibly, the amount and structure of this new tax is left to the discretion of the Secretaries of Treasury and Health and Human Services (HHS), whose only guidance is “to establish the minimum practicable amount that can accomplish the goal of enhancing participation in qualifying coverage (as so defined).” The new Medical Advisory Council (see #3D) could exempt classes of people from this new tax. To avoid this tax, you would have to report your health insurance information for each month of the prior year to the Secretary of HHS, along with “any such other information as the Secretary may prescribe.”


The bill would also create an employer mandate. Employers would have to offer insurance to their employees. Employers would have to pay at least a certain percentage (TBD) of the premium, and at least a certain dollar amount (TBD). Any employer that did not would pay a new tax. Again, the amount and structure of the tax is left to the discretion of the Secretaries of Treasury and HHS. Small employers (TBD) would be exempt.


In the Kennedy-Dodd bill, the government would define a qualified plan:


All health insurance would be required to have guaranteed issue and renewal, modified community rating, no exclusions for pre-existing conditions, no lifetime or annual limits on benefits, and family policies would have to cover “children” up to age 26.


A qualified plan would have to meet one of three levels of standardized cost-sharing defined by the government, “gold, silver, and bronze.” Details TBD.


Plans would be required to cover a list of preventive services approved by the Federal government.


A qualified plan would have to cover “essential health benefits,” as defined by a new Medical Advisory Council (MAC), appointed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. The MAC would determine what items and services are “essential benefits.” The MAC would have to include items and services in at least the following categories: ambulatory patient services, emergency services, hospitalization, maternity and new born care, medical and surgical, mental health, prescription drugs, rehab and lab services, preventive/wellness services, pediatric services, and anything else the MAC thought appropriate.


The MAC would also define what “affordable and available coverage” is for different income levels, affecting who has to pay the tax if they don’t buy health insurance. The MAC’s rules would go into effect unless Congress passed a joint resolution (under a fast-track process) to turn them off.


Health insurance plans could not charge higher premiums for risky behaviors: “Such rate shall not vary by health status-related factors, … or any other factor not described in paragraph (1).” Smokers, drinkers, drug users, and those in terrible physical shape would all have their premiums subsidized by the healthy.


Guaranteed issue and renewal combined with modified community rating would dramatically increase premiums for the overwhelming majority of those Americans who now have private health insurance. New Jersey is the best example of health insurance mandates gone wild. In the name of protecting their citizens, premiums are extremely high to cover the cross-subsidization of those who are uninsurable.


The bill would expand Medicaid to cover everyone up to 150% of poverty, with the Federal government paying all incremental costs (no State share). This means adding childless adults with income below 150% of the poverty line.


People from 150% of poverty up to 500% (!!) would get their health insurance subsidized (on a sliding scale). If this were in effect in 2009, a family of four with income of $110,000 would get a small subsidy. The bill does not indicate the source of funds to finance these subsidies.


People in high cost areas (e.g., New York City, Boston, South Florida, Chicago, Los Angeles) would get much bigger subsidies than those in low cost areas (e.g., much of the rest of the country, especially in rural areas). The subsidies are calculated as a percentage of the “reference premium,” which is determined based on the cost of plans sold in that particular geographic area


There would be a “public plan option” of health insurance offered by the federal government. In this new government health plan, the federal government would pay health care providers Medicare rates + 10%. The +10% is clearly intended to attract short-term legislative support from medical providers. I hope they are not so naive that they think that differential would last.


Group health plans with 250 or fewer members would be prohibited from self-insuring. ERISA would only be for big businesses.


States would have to set up “gateways” (health insurance exchanges) to market only qualified health insurance plans. If they don’t, the Feds will set up a gateway for them.


Health insurance plans in existence before the law would not have to meet the new insurance standards. This creates a weird bifurcated system and means you would (probably) be subject to a different set of rules when you change jobs.


The bill does not specify what spending will be cut or what taxes will be raised to pay for the increased spending. That is presumably for the Finance Committee to determine, since it’s their jurisdiction.


The bill defines an “eligible individual” as “a citizen or national of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence or an alien lawfully present in the United States.”


The bill would create a new pot of money for state gateways to pay “navigators” to educate people about the new bill, distribute information about health plans, and help people enroll. Navigators receiving federal funds “may include … unions, …”


This would have severe effects on the more than 100 million Americans who have private health insurance today:

The government would mandate not only that you must buy health insurance, but what health insurance counts as “qualifying.”


Health insurance premiums would rise as a result of the law, meaning lower wages.


A government-appointed board would determine what items and services are “essential benefits” that your qualifying plan must cover.


You would find a tremendous new disincentive to switch jobs, because your new health insurance may be subject to the new rules and would therefore be significantly more expensive.


Those who keep themselves healthy would be subsidizing premiums for those with risky or unhealthy behaviors.


Far more than half of all Americans would be eligible for subsidies, but we have not yet been told who would pay the bill.


The Secretaries of Treasury and HHS would have unlimited discretion to impose new taxes on individuals and employers who do not comply with the new mandates.


The Secretary of HHS could mandate that you provide him or her with “any such other information as [he/she] may prescribe.”
I strongly oppose this bill.
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So basically....

Insure everyone. Details to follow, after the bill is passed. Don't ask to read the fine print, it hasn't been written yet.

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Health insurance plans could not charge higher premiums for risky behaviors: “Such rate shall not vary by health status-related factors, … or any other factor not described in paragraph (1).” Smokers, drinkers, drug users, and those in terrible physical shape would all have their premiums subsidized by the healthy.

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A govt sponsored plan will potentially out 2 million jobs in the health insurance industry in jeopardy. I'm not sure how you reconcile that with the massive unemployment numbers coming out.
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A govt sponsored plan will potentially out 2 million jobs in the health insurance industry in jeopardy. I'm not sure how you reconcile that with the massive unemployment numbers coming out.
Obama will simply point out that he's save 100,000 jobs.

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It's not destroying two million jobs, it's "bolstering the available work pool by two million hard-working Americans."
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[COLOR=black]Kennedy has "god" status in the "Utopian Socialist" Democratic Party. This 'draft' is the baseline to be perfected by the obedient herd and fellow travellers of the Congress. [/COLOR]
This might be a selling point when presenting HSA (gov. qualified plans) to new clients. It may be one of the few loopholes to opt out of the Orwellian System.
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Yup. In the I told you so category, a long time back many of us predicted that the government would develop "creditable" plans and then come up with a fancy name for them. And then there would be a series of carrots and sticks through tax credits and penalties such that you would be telling people that they had choice but only an idiot would choose one of the plans that was not government qualified. Kennedy's plan takes us there. Surprise, surprise. Also I think Kennedy's plan has the health exchange thing but calls it "the Gateway." Whatever.

What I find very, very hard to believe, even though it is probably true, is that Kennedy would allow Dodd as a cosponsor. Dodd is the lowest sapsucker in the Senate at the point and no one thinks he will be re-elected next year. So what's up with that? That part is weird in my mind. He should be distancing himself from Dodd if he wants to go in with a clean slate. What's next- the Barney Frank-Christopher Dodd Finance Reform Act?

Crazy stuff but go for it Teddy if it makes sense to you. I believe it when I see it then I reserve the right to cry bullshit all over again when I do see it.

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KeithHennessey.com » Understanding the Kennedy health care bill

Ver the weekend a draft of Senator Kennedy’s (D-MA) health care bill leaked. After playing with Adobe Acrobat, here is the text of the draft Kennedy bill as a text file (173 K), and as a single Acrobat file (3.4 MB). Update: I fixed the broken link to the PDF. Unlike the leaked version, both of these are searchable.

Calling it the “Kennedy” bill is something of an overstatement. Senator Kennedy chairs the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee, and his staff wrote the draft. By all reports, however, Chairman Kennedy’s health is preventing him from being heavily involved in the drafting. Senator Reid has designated Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) to supervise the process, but as best I can tell, it’s really the Kennedy committee staff who are making most of the key decisions. For now I will call it the Kennedy-Dodd bill.

As the committee staff emphasized to the press after the leak, this is an interim draft. I assume things will move around over the next several weeks as discussions among Senators and their staffs continue. This is therefore far from a final product, but it provides a useful insight into current thinking among some key Senate Democrats.

Here are 15 things to know about the draft Kennedy-Dodd health bill.


The Kennedy-Dodd bill would create an individual mandate requiring you to buy a “qualified” health insurance plan, as defined by the government. If you don’t have “qualified” health insurance for a given month, you will pay a new Federal tax. Incredibly, the amount and structure of this new tax is left to the discretion of the Secretaries of Treasury and Health and Human Services (HHS), whose only guidance is “to establish the minimum practicable amount that can accomplish the goal of enhancing participation in qualifying coverage (as so defined).” The new Medical Advisory Council (see #3D) could exempt classes of people from this new tax. To avoid this tax, you would have to report your health insurance information for each month of the prior year to the Secretary of HHS, along with “any such other information as the Secretary may prescribe.”


The bill would also create an employer mandate. Employers would have to offer insurance to their employees. Employers would have to pay at least a certain percentage (TBD) of the premium, and at least a certain dollar amount (TBD). Any employer that did not would pay a new tax. Again, the amount and structure of the tax is left to the discretion of the Secretaries of Treasury and HHS. Small employers (TBD) would be exempt.


In the Kennedy-Dodd bill, the government would define a qualified plan:


All health insurance would be required to have guaranteed issue and renewal, modified community rating, no exclusions for pre-existing conditions, no lifetime or annual limits on benefits, and family policies would have to cover “children” up to age 26.


A qualified plan would have to meet one of three levels of standardized cost-sharing defined by the government, “gold, silver, and bronze.” Details TBD.


Plans would be required to cover a list of preventive services approved by the Federal government.


A qualified plan would have to cover “essential health benefits,” as defined by a new Medical Advisory Council (MAC), appointed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services. The MAC would determine what items and services are “essential benefits.” The MAC would have to include items and services in at least the following categories: ambulatory patient services, emergency services, hospitalization, maternity and new born care, medical and surgical, mental health, prescription drugs, rehab and lab services, preventive/wellness services, pediatric services, and anything else the MAC thought appropriate.


The MAC would also define what “affordable and available coverage” is for different income levels, affecting who has to pay the tax if they don’t buy health insurance. The MAC’s rules would go into effect unless Congress passed a joint resolution (under a fast-track process) to turn them off.


Health insurance plans could not charge higher premiums for risky behaviors: “Such rate shall not vary by health status-related factors, … or any other factor not described in paragraph (1).” Smokers, drinkers, drug users, and those in terrible physical shape would all have their premiums subsidized by the healthy.


Guaranteed issue and renewal combined with modified community rating would dramatically increase premiums for the overwhelming majority of those Americans who now have private health insurance. New Jersey is the best example of health insurance mandates gone wild. In the name of protecting their citizens, premiums are extremely high to cover the cross-subsidization of those who are uninsurable.


The bill would expand Medicaid to cover everyone up to 150% of poverty, with the Federal government paying all incremental costs (no State share). This means adding childless adults with income below 150% of the poverty line.


People from 150% of poverty up to 500% (!!) would get their health insurance subsidized (on a sliding scale). If this were in effect in 2009, a family of four with income of $110,000 would get a small subsidy. The bill does not indicate the source of funds to finance these subsidies.


People in high cost areas (e.g., New York City, Boston, South Florida, Chicago, Los Angeles) would get much bigger subsidies than those in low cost areas (e.g., much of the rest of the country, especially in rural areas). The subsidies are calculated as a percentage of the “reference premium,” which is determined based on the cost of plans sold in that particular geographic area


There would be a “public plan option” of health insurance offered by the federal government. In this new government health plan, the federal government would pay health care providers Medicare rates + 10%. The +10% is clearly intended to attract short-term legislative support from medical providers. I hope they are not so naive that they think that differential would last.


Group health plans with 250 or fewer members would be prohibited from self-insuring. ERISA would only be for big businesses.


States would have to set up “gateways” (health insurance exchanges) to market only qualified health insurance plans. If they don’t, the Feds will set up a gateway for them.


Health insurance plans in existence before the law would not have to meet the new insurance standards. This creates a weird bifurcated system and means you would (probably) be subject to a different set of rules when you change jobs.


The bill does not specify what spending will be cut or what taxes will be raised to pay for the increased spending. That is presumably for the Finance Committee to determine, since it’s their jurisdiction.


The bill defines an “eligible individual” as “a citizen or national of the United States or an alien lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence or an alien lawfully present in the United States.”


The bill would create a new pot of money for state gateways to pay “navigators” to educate people about the new bill, distribute information about health plans, and help people enroll. Navigators receiving federal funds “may include … unions, …”


This would have severe effects on the more than 100 million Americans who have private health insurance today:

The government would mandate not only that you must buy health insurance, but what health insurance counts as “qualifying.”


Health insurance premiums would rise as a result of the law, meaning lower wages.


A government-appointed board would determine what items and services are “essential benefits” that your qualifying plan must cover.


You would find a tremendous new disincentive to switch jobs, because your new health insurance may be subject to the new rules and would therefore be significantly more expensive.


Those who keep themselves healthy would be subsidizing premiums for those with risky or unhealthy behaviors.


Far more than half of all Americans would be eligible for subsidies, but we have not yet been told who would pay the bill.


The Secretaries of Treasury and HHS would have unlimited discretion to impose new taxes on individuals and employers who do not comply with the new mandates.


The Secretary of HHS could mandate that you provide him or her with “any such other information as [he/she] may prescribe.”
I strongly oppose this bill.

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What I find very, very hard to believe, even though it is probably true, is that Kennedy would allow Dodd as a cosponsor. Dodd is the lowest sapsucker in the Senate at the point and no one thinks he will be re-elected next year. So what's up with that? That part is weird in my mind. He should be distancing himself from Dodd if he wants to go in with a clean slate. What's next- the Barney Frank-Christopher Dodd Finance Reform Act?
This could be easy to explain. No matter what the outcome, a fall guy will be needed come election time. I think Dodd has already realized he is toast, unless there is a miracle. He will either be the miracle kid or everyone elses fall guy, depends on what happens between now and then.

Politically, I view it as a good move for Dodd. He is already underwater, and diving deeper hoping to break free to the surface, may be his only chance for survival.

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This could be easy to explain. No matter what the outcome, a fall guy will be needed come election time. I think Dodd has already realized he is toast, unless there is a miracle. He will either be the miracle kid or everyone elses fall guy, depends on what happens between now and then.

Politically, I view it as a good move for Dodd. He is already underwater, and diving deeper hoping to break free to the surface, may be his only chance for survival.

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Yep. Was just listening to the news and I guess the Dodd thing is for real, so I stand corrected and duly chagrined. Holy Guacamole! That would be like the Republicans having Larry Craig introduce a bill in response to Kennedy's. The Ethics Committee should be prosecuting Dodd for his kickback from Countrywide, not using him as a front man for one of the most important pieces of Legisilation in the last 50 years or more.

Dodd should either be in prison or swinging out on the mall with Barney. I can't believe that the dems would risk a major program like this just to prop up Dodd and preserve his seat but I guess that is what is happening. Hard to believe.

On the other hand, the other sponsor of the bill is Ted Kennedy- someone who should just be getting out of prison after Chappaquiddick so obviously I dont have the democrat view of things here.
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It just blows me away that Dodd, Frank, Waters, Rangel, etc ever get re elected in the first place. Man, how dumb and misinformed do you need to be to vote for any of these jerks?

Love this one on Rangel...He swears at this guy and he writes the tax code!

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Winter, Dodd has been Kennedy's womanizing and drinking buddy for eons. He wants his pal to share his utopian socialist masterpiece with him. In his mind it will be his and Dodd's historic legacy.
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There is no chance the bill will even be considered.
This bill has no numbers with it.

So Kennedy decided to release a proposal that is nothing more than bullet points. He does not go into detail of how much the bill will cost or how he will fund it.

The cost of this type of proposal is so astronomical.
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Looks like things got a little ugly at the AMA meeting in Chicago:

Obama pleads for support of health system overhaul - Yahoo! News
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Looks like things got a little ugly at the AMA meeting in Chicago:

Obama pleads for support of health system overhaul - Yahoo! News

I saw that the press was shocked he got booed for the first time ever.... jesus got stoned....
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Obummer's arguments are bouncing all over the place, fast and loose with the numbers.

Just last week he was sticking to the argument that his gig would be "revenue neutral" due to all the savings he was going to put in place. Then the indendendent Congressional Budget Office came out with a report saying that at a minimum it would add a trillion to the deficit, more if medicaid is expanded. Now Barry is back on the stump with the "well, we spent a trillion in Iraq" routine.

He warned the AMA that our health system could "go the way of General Motors." No lie there. He is certainly doing his part.
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When all else fails, go on the attack, attack everything, and say nothing:

Breitbart.tv Obama Hits ‘Fear-Mongering’ on Health Care Changes During AMA Address
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Man that guy just scares the crap out of me. When will it stop? Big brother, Chairman Mau...He is starting to sound like all of them rolled up into one.
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I'm starting to wonder when he's going to finally lose it and blame it all on his teleprompter! You know, kind of like when the aliens start talking to you through the fillings in your mouth!

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I'm starting to wonder when he's going to finally lose it and blame it all on his teleprompter! You know, kind of like when the aliens start talking to you through the fillings in your mouth!

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