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I'm interviewing for a B2B P&C position with Liberty Mutual. They say it has a nice base along with commissions. Anyone have any experience with ...


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Old 12-18-2007, 12:02 PM   #1
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I'm interviewing for a B2B P&C position with Liberty Mutual. They say it has a nice base along with commissions.

Anyone have any experience with LM? Thanks
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Old 12-18-2007, 07:12 PM   #2
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Good company. Hope you're not going to work in the Pacific Division. New management are backstabbers. Stay away from Pacific Division.
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Old 12-19-2007, 10:35 PM   #3
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I have worked for LM's Personal Markets in the pacific region for 9 years. Awesome company to work for. Great place to build a career.

Is the position you're interviewing for in the Personal Market or Commercial Market?
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Old 12-20-2007, 08:13 AM   #4
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I know that out here in CO, they brought in some young hot shot gun slinger MBA who made sure the agents knew there was a "new sheriff in town". He has gotten rid of many agents who were not what he considered team players - including managers. The sales volume has not significantly increased over the past two years - and many of the top producers have left for greener pastures due to the pious attitude of upper management.

How do I know this? Because 3 of the people that left are friends of mine.
One of them was a manager with the company - worked for them about 20 years. Now he is going indy - it's a shame, 20 years and not a single client is his to keep. CAPTIVE SUCKS.

They should look at their rates and underwriting requirements for lack of production more than the behavior of their employees. My other friends who are P&C brokers love to see a LM policy because they know they can blow it away with the same or better coverage.

Their Life products are nothing special - they can easily be beat as well.

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Old 05-03-2008, 11:48 AM   #5
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Aah, nice base.. Beware of he who bring's gifts.. I guess thats the trade, $$$ up front for selling your soul or in this case your BOB near the end.

Captive does suck, but being poor and independent sucks even more!
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:10 PM   #6
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aah, nice base.. Beware of he who bring's gifts.. I guess thats the trade, $$$ up front for selling your soul or in this case your BOB near the end.

Captive does suck, but being poor and independent sucks even more!
I would argue that being poor and captive sucks much more than the pits of hell.
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:54 PM   #7
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Liberty Mutual CEO Criticizes Federal Bailout of AIG.

Comtex News Network - Liberty Mutual CEO Criticizes Federal Bailout of AIG

Kelly said Liberty Mutual avoided losses in the financial market because the company got out of the public equity market, a strategy that was "clearly the right decision," he said. Liberty Mutual "wouldn't touch" collateralized debt obligations. It also investigated hedge funds but "didn't want to invest in something we didn't understand," Kelly said
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Old 03-11-2009, 01:06 PM   #8
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When I worked for LM the business side was definately the favored child. We, in the personal lines market, were the red-headed step children.
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Old 11-19-2009, 06:56 PM   #9
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What is a nice base??
How much and what is the commission rate??
Thanks
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Old 11-19-2009, 07:52 PM   #10
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Well Cali Jake a base salary in insurance is only as good as the producer. Meaning that if you don't equal or exceed that base in new business you will not be there long. If you are new in the business you may be able to get a 400 or 500 dollar base contract which you will have to validate with production. Validation periods are usually about 3-6 months long. Commission usually around 50% of annualized premium after issue of business and all going into an accumulation fund during your contract validation. You may be able to qualify for bonuses during this period but your weekly income will be limited.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:54 PM   #11
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Stay away unless you have a short term plan. I worked there almost five years. At the time they vested their pension at five years. My buddy was let go in his eleventh month of his fourth year. This was the midwest region personal lines area. St. Louis, Kansas City, Chicago, Indianapolis group. Most of the leaders are gone but a few managers have lasted. I would only go there with plans on leaving within three years. Good company with the above problems.

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Old 11-19-2009, 10:52 PM   #12
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I would argue that being poor and captive sucks much more than the pits of hell.
Now that's funny!!!
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:05 AM   #13
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I was recruited by these guys last year. During the interview process it became crystal clear that my background in senior sales would not translate to their "target market." So, I didn't get past the second interview. My interest in the company was based on the "cradle" of compensation and benefits. When I was introduced to some of the agents to ask questions, I thought I was in the sales meeting at Glenngarry Glen Ross. The blokes looked like they hadn't sold a thing in months and were on their last legs...
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:25 AM   #14
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I was recruited by these guys last year. During the interview process it became crystal clear that my background in senior sales would not translate to their "target market." So, I didn't get past the second interview.
I don't understand ... why would senior focus disqualify you?
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:10 AM   #15
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I don't understand ... why would senior focus disqualify you?
Because, as the imminently knowledgeable district manager said: "Your client base of Medicare and FE customers aren't really the target customers that you would be pursuing here." He was greatly concerned that I didn't have a waiting base of customers to roll...
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:31 AM   #16
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Oh, he wanted your book of business? right? And thought you were too retarded to talk to middle age people ... whateva ...

I had a phone interview with them and they asked me the stupidst questions ever.

I told her, "what??? I have never thought about that in my life and after I passed on answering two questions, I told her that if I had to pretend to know an answer to these silly questions, then I'm not interested ... they have nothing to do with real life and the world of sales ..." she was shocked, and that was the end of my future with Liberty Mutual ... I'm glad I went independent instead ... I couldn't handle if they expected me to think in those terms ...
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What were the stupid questions the interviewer asked?
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1. Where were you born?
2. What is your age?
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:32 AM   #19
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1. Where were you born?
2. What is your age?
Uh, no ...

It's been a long time but it was like this:

1. Can you give us a specific time when you were faced with a challenge and you had to stick to your game plan to achieve the goal that you originally intended on achieving.

2. Can you give us a specific time where you had goals and had to avoid a situation or had to stick to your guns in order to achieve them ...

Well, something like that but much more vague and hard for me to remember. Anyway, I've been through a lot of interviews and I always get hired ... I can BS the answers if I have to ... but these questions were so vague, it was hard to wrap my mind around what they were talking about.
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What about the question in Airplane?

"Tell me, have you ever seen a grown man naked?"
"Ever been inside a turkish bath?"

Those would appear more relevant.
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