Register here to view the forum without ads

Insurance Agent Forum
Join our Facebook Fan Page  Join our LinkedIn Group of Insurance Agents  Follow Insurance Agents Forum on Twitter
Currently Online: 205
Members: 13,185
Discussions: 15,201
Messages: 199,349
Views: 7,986,970

Go Back   Insurance Agent Forum > Insurance Agents and Brokers Forum > Getting Started Selling Insurance

Health Choice One

Scroll down for a discussion on A Little Old School Method within the Getting Started Selling Insurance.

Okay, I’m going back old school for a moment. When cold calling or setting up an appointment with a client or just about any type ...


Reply to A Little Old School Method
Old 12-30-2008, 10:23 AM   #1
Guru
 
Markingriffin on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts:2,162
State: Markingriffin is an Insurance Agent from Georgia
Send a message via AIM to Markingriffin
A Little Old School Method             Go to Top


Okay, I’m going back old school for a moment.

When cold calling or setting up an appointment with a client or just about any type of dealing with a client. I want you to use the words “HELP YOU” at least 10 times. One of my 1st boss use to make me write down help you 10 times on a sheet of paper and check them off as I’m talking with a client. After a while, I didn’t need to keep up with it any longer. I just got use to saying it.

I want to come out and help you today.
I want to help you protect your family.

I know this sounds very simple and old school.

I don’t see agents using briefcases anymore either. I still use one and I think it helps me on my sales.

Okay, one more old school trick. In your briefcase, have a couple of fake applications already filled out with some fake checks attached to them. Let the client see them in your briefcase. Not study them, but glance at them and see them. You can tell them you been busy today helping other clients protect their family. There are many reason why some agents do this, but let me keep this short. It helps. They don’t have to be fake either. If you wrote some other apps that day have them in your briefcase and while moving around the papers, the client will get a glance at them, while you are moving them.

There is a reason why I say this is old school. Meaning this is how we did it in the older days. But if you like the idea, then use it. If not, then don't.
Choose Insurance Type

Enter Zip Code
------------------------------------
Mark Rosenthal aka markingriffin
IMO/Ins Agent/Agent Trainer/Free Advice
markcrosenthal@aol.com www.realfastservice.com
Please visit mywebsite to learn more about me.
Email me for my Free Prospecting MP3 Tapes.
Markingriffin is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method

Register Now for FREE!
Are you an Insurance Agent Forum member yet? To sign up for your FREE INSTANT account, fill out the form below!

Username:     Password:   Confirm Password:     E-Mail:   Confirm E-Mail:

    Question of the day:   Please type "welcome" in this box Agree to forum rules 


Old 12-30-2008, 10:35 AM   #2
Guru
 
moonlightandmargaritas on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts:6,148
State: moonlightandmargaritas is an Insurance Agent from Florida
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Originally Posted by Markingriffin View Post
Okay, one more old school trick. In your briefcase, have a couple of fake applications already filled out with some fake checks attached to them.
Wow.

This is the sort of subterfuge that has given many insurance agents the bad reputation that they so richly deserve.

An approach such as this stains the professional agents among us.

The only reason to resort to trickery is that you don't have the requisite skills to succeed on a straight-up basis.

Bad.
------------------------------------
[COLOR=blue]Don't steal - the government hates competition.[/COLOR]
moonlightandmargaritas is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 12-30-2008, 10:43 AM   #3
Guru
 
Markingriffin on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts:2,162
State: Markingriffin is an Insurance Agent from Georgia
Send a message via AIM to Markingriffin
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Originally Posted by moonlightandmargaritas View Post
Wow.

This is the sort of subterfuge that has given many insurance agents the bad reputation that they so richly deserve.

An approach such as this stains the professional agents among us.

The only reason to resort to trickery is that you don't have the requisite skills to succeed on a straight-up basis.

Bad.

There are going to be a million old school things that we don't agree with or use today. But it is what some agents use to do in the old days.

I'm going to be bringing up some old school stuff, just to show the new agents how the older agents use to do it. It does not mean that I agree with everything they did or that I use it. But I think it makes for a great story and you might get some kind of an idea from it.

I think about over half of the old school methods are crazy today. Just food for thought.

I would like to hear from some of you, some of the old school stuff you know about, or use to do, that might have worked in the older days.

Don't get me wrong, I do carry real applications in my briefcase that I've been working on. I've had clients tell me things like, you sure have been busy, or a lot of other people must need insurance also. I also have a big picture of my family in my briefcase or laptop case.
Markingriffin is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 12-30-2008, 10:48 AM   #4
Guru
 
Charpress on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts:1,292
State: Charpress is an Insurance Agent from Louisiana
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

I keep a policy I sold my wife handy so I can show people that I put my money where my mouth is.

Maybe old school, but honest and very effective. I do this with an IRA annuity in my wife's name and a life policy in my own name. The companies that I frequently recommend also happen to be those two companies.

If any of you have any family policies that you don't at least keep copies of, then you are wasting a good sales visual.
Charpress is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 12-30-2008, 11:07 AM   #5
Expert
 
warnerins on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts:219
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Old School -

"Mr. Business Owner, My name is Tim (Agent/Owner of Warner Insurance) I was going to come by next Tuesday morning to just drop off a card and introduce myself. I am calling to see if that is an ok thing for me to do and see if you are going to be in the office next Tuesday".
------------------------------------
Tim
Warnerins.com
warnerins is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 12-30-2008, 04:23 PM   #6
Super Genius
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts:90
State: snowman is an Insurance Agent from Alaska
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Old SChool Answer to NI Objection -

If you don't quailify for this policy (Name) what part are you not interested in when you die - your family having to live on welfare or your wife having to get remarried to some jerk!

New School - Find another prospect.
snowman is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 12-30-2008, 04:30 PM   #7
Guru
 
insuranceexec on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts:1,577
State: insuranceexec is an Insurance Agent from Arkansas
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Originally Posted by Markingriffin View Post
Okay, one more old school trick. In your briefcase, have a couple of fake applications already filled out with some fake checks attached to them. .

Sounds Like a Deprtment of Insurance complaint waiting to happen.

Great Advice
insuranceexec is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 12-30-2008, 04:55 PM   #8
Guru
 
Charpress on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts:1,292
State: Charpress is an Insurance Agent from Louisiana
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Well, like Mark said, it isn't advice. It is just a statement about how some sales were presented --mostly in the past.

Although I agree some of these methods should definitely not be used and are borderline fraud at best, it is still interesting.

Reading about these "old school" methods does two things: 1) makes us think about the ethics issues, and 2) makes us think about sales methods that might accomplish the same result without the misrepresentation aspect.
Charpress is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 12-30-2008, 05:38 PM   #9
Guru
 
Markingriffin on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts:2,162
State: Markingriffin is an Insurance Agent from Georgia
Send a message via AIM to Markingriffin
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Okay, I'm going back old school again.

When you get out of your car, to walk into the house on the appointment, start waiving at the home to start with. Even if they are not looking at you.

Some clients will be trying to avoid you and act like they are not home, and if they think you already seen them, they will answer the door.

DISCLAIMER: I will be talking a lot about OLD SCHOOL methods. It does not mean that you have to do them or should do them. I'm just taking some of the new agents back to old school methods.

I wanted to talk about some methods that agents use to do back in the day.

I do believe that some of the new agents need to learn somethings from the past that agents use to do.

I still do some old school methods.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Originally Posted by Markingriffin View Post
Okay, I’m going back old school for a moment.

When cold calling or setting up an appointment with a client or just about any type of dealing with a client. I want you to use the words “HELP YOU” at least 10 times. One of my 1st boss use to make me write down help you 10 times on a sheet of paper and check them off as I’m talking with a client. After a while, I didn’t need to keep up with it any longer. I just got use to saying it.

I want to come out and help you today.
I want to help you protect your family.

I know this sounds very simple and old school.

.
This is something I try to still do today. I try and say the words " Help You" at least so many times.

Last edited by Markingriffin : 12-30-2008 at 05:43 PM. Reason: Posts merged
Markingriffin is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 12-30-2008, 05:51 PM   #10
Super Genius
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts:90
State: snowman is an Insurance Agent from Alaska
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Old School - When we used to go door to door, when someone comes to the door make sure they see you step back a foot so they won't feel so intimidated, then introduce yourself and why your there , then ask "May I come In" while you reach for the door and actually open it. We always assumed everything, the acceptance, the pitch(yes we pitched), and the close.

New School - Do that now and you might just get shot.
snowman is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 12-30-2008, 07:24 PM   #11
Guru
 
padthaiforlunch on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts:1,325
State: padthaiforlunch is an Insurance Agent from Colorado
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Originally Posted by snowman View Post
Old SChool Answer to NI Objection -

If you don't quailify for this policy (Name) what part are you not interested in when you die - your family having to live on welfare or your wife having to get remarried to some jerk!
And that's when you show them a picture of liano!

Jk, rob.
padthaiforlunch is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 12-30-2008, 07:32 PM   #12
Super Genius
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts:90
State: snowman is an Insurance Agent from Alaska
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Ouch
snowman is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 06-12-2009, 02:03 PM   #13
Super Genius
 
DUDE on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts:26
State: DUDE is an Insurance Agent from Kentucky
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

[quote=Charpress;123537]Well, like Mark said, it isn't advice. It is just a statement about how some sales were presented --mostly in the past.

Although I agree some of these methods should definitely not be used and are borderline fraud at best, it is still interesting.

i am old school! met Ben Feldman east liverpool ohio once. he carred a little coffin with him in his breafcase he would have prospect open it . the guys name was in it . he said im selling dollares for pennies how many do you want to leave your family? he was a great life man!


DUDE is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 06-12-2009, 04:54 PM   #14
Guru
 
bill3173 on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts:866
State: bill3173 is an Insurance Agent from North Carolina
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

I wonder if the agents that use all of these "methods" to sell insurance, actually place more policies than me.

I've never had any sales training, but when I first started and didn't have a client base, I'd just walk right up to people and say "hey, you wanna buy some insurance?"

If your heart is in the right place, it works. I sold a lot to women that way, they'd usually start laughing, and we'd talk about it for a while.
------------------------------------
No Government can be long secure without a formidable Opposition.


Benjamin Disraeli
bill3173 is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 06-12-2009, 05:02 PM   #15
Guru
 
somarco on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts:8,200
State: somarco is an Insurance Agent from Georgia
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

hey, you wanna buy some insurance?
John Dillinger was in a different line of work, but had a similar approach. He said you get so much further with a gun and a smile than just a smile alone.

Or maybe it was Al Capone . . .
------------------------------------
The doctor is in. Five cents please.
Atlanta Health Insurance
Affordable Dental Insurance
somarco is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 06-12-2009, 06:50 PM   #16
Expert
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts:176
State: annuityseller is an Insurance Agent from Maine
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Who's liano???
annuityseller is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 06-12-2009, 07:39 PM   #17
Guru
 
Delta76 on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts:616
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

who's liano???
You must not be familiar with the gay bar scene?

(sorry Rob, couldn't resist)
Delta76 is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Old 06-12-2009, 09:27 PM   #18
Guru
 
SalemInsuranceGuy on A Little Old School Method - Insurance Agent Forum
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts:266
State: SalemInsuranceGuy is an Insurance Agent from Virginia
Re: A Little Old School Method             Go to Top

Originally Posted by snowman View Post
Old School - When we used to go door to door, when someone comes to the door make sure they see you step back a foot so they won't feel so intimidated, then introduce yourself and why your there , then ask "May I come In" while you reach for the door and actually open it. We always assumed everything, the acceptance, the pitch(yes we pitched), and the close.

New School - Do that now and you might just get shot.
LOL So true. I'm one of those people who doesn't like anyone just stopping by my house unannounced. You better at least call ahead of time. I think since the invention of the telephone it's just rude to interrupt me with no warning. I'm also armed. Hey just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not all out to get me.

Choose Insurance Type Enter Zip Code


------------------------------------
Allen Bauer
Salem, VA
SalemTerm.com
SalemTerm.net
SalemInsuranceGuy is offline   Reply With Quote to A Little Old School Method
Reply to A Little Old School Method

  Insurance Forum > Insurance Agent Forum > Insurance Agents and Brokers Forum > Getting Started Selling Insurance



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads with A Little Old School Method
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Law school student lives in WV, but goes to school in VA Joseph H. Deacon III Individual Health Insurance Forum 9 06-25-2008 10:25 AM
Old School Agents David C General Insurance Agent Discussions 18 04-28-2008 09:01 PM
Best Method For Underwriting Interview Vision General Insurance Agent Discussions 6 08-15-2007 04:21 PM
Is it possible to become an agent while in school? studentagent General Insurance Agent Discussions 23 03-27-2007 10:38 AM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12 Secure
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.0