Insurance Agent Forum

[ins.dave]

Big vote on Sat?
C'mon stick yer necks out? It's fun.
I say it won't even get to a senate vote.

[djs]

Somebody finally counted the votes. Due to being a 'tad' shy, they have probably pushed the vote back to Sunday, maybe Monday, maybe Tuesday.

It surprised me that they basically admitted they don't have the votes to pass this. I figured they would blame the republicans.... oh wait, they did.

Dan

[maksim]

It will pass in the house, but obviously fail in the senate.

But yes, I am surprised they are pushing this back even more.

Anyone voting for this bill is going to be voted out next year.

[Winter]

The vote will be pushed out because that is what Washington does when the votes aren't there. Then add some amendments and go again. Rinse and repeat.

I am sure President Obama is extremely anxious to see a bill come out of the house and/or the senate and/or both. After all, how else will he know what Obamacare is until Congress tells him. He has no bill of his own out there anywhere. Cynical as it may be, it is about as true a statement as can be. Leadership? You decide. Apply this same leadership style to Afg and watch the troops die.

[ins.dave]

Originally Posted by djs

Somebody finally counted the votes. Due to being a 'tad' shy, they have probably pushed the vote back to Sunday, maybe Monday, maybe Tuesday.

It surprised me that they basically admitted they don't have the votes to pass this. I figured they would blame the republicans.... oh wait, they did.

Dan

Are you kidding me?
No entertainment on Cspan tommorrow?
I've been waiting for this all week.
Boy oh freak'n boy is this gonna come back in spades come 2010 mid terms.

Still in Afghan. / Iraq.
Economy not great.
Health insurance ..., I,uh, I mean reform non existent ...

Maybe they will get real about HR once it is too late in 2010?

[agentinsure]

I have many issues with this "reform" which may summed up in these 3 points;

1) no legislation before has ever required 2000 pages to write,

2) a $250,000 fine and 5 years in prison for non-compliance, and

3) congress members are exempt

[healthagent]

We will have a bill by spring! Ok, we'll have a bill by August! No, September! Oh...well, we'll have a bill voted on this Saturday! Well, no - not enough votes, but we'll have a bill by...

House Health Care Vote: Breaking Updates

Follow along with the lunacy

[Winter]

Going to turn my back on the vote until tomorrow. It is going to be close. Looks like it will pass by the slimmest of margins but some members will say that they cant vote for it in final form when it comes back from conference committee with the Senate if certain elements still are or are not in it. So go figure what that means in the scheme of things. They are not going to have much of working margin there that is for sure and if the senate roughs up the bill which they most certainly will they are going to need a wider margin to still be able to take hits and have enough members left to support it. The whole abortion amendment is such a wild card and you have the far left saying they might vote to pass the bill even if the abortion amendment passes but they most definitely will not if it is in the final bill.

That's my guess of where it will end out anyway as of 8 pm. EST. Probably be easier to just not guess rather than embarass myself but why change now?

[healthagent]

I want it to pass. No, seriously - enough is enough and I can't stand listening to Pelosi yap on endlessly. Pass it. Then let it move in to the Senate where it hits the big-boys table.
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Anti-abortion amendment passed - no funds for abortions (with rare exceptions - probably life-saving only) for any plan sold in the exchange including public option.

Here's a statement Reps. Louise M. Slaughter (D-N.Y.) and Diana DeGette (D-Col.), co-chairs of the Congressional Pro-Choice Caucus:

"Placing onerous new restrictions on a woman's right to choose sets a terrible precedent and marks a significant step backwards. This effort will effectively ban abortion coverage in all plans, both private and public - marking a significant scaling back of the options offered under existing laws. Such a terrible, last minute amendment to a critical, historic piece of legislation is a shame. This kind of outrageous interference in health care by the government marks a sad day in this struggle and will result in women across America losing the right to health care."


The pro-choice'ers will lose their minds over this.

[djs]

Vote just passed.

Dan
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I should add, it is still open, somebody could change.
Right now, vote count is 218 to 214 with 3 left to vote.

[healthagent]

Great, now it's out of the kiddie pool and into adult swim.

[TXINSURANCE]

220 to 215. America loses. This is very significant people. Very significant. Do not underestimate the importance of this.

[Rivers1]

One step closer to America falls & Socialism breeds.

My taxes just exploded!

[al3]

Originally Posted by Rivers1

One step closer to America falls & Socialism breeds.

My taxes just exploded!

"Help! I've fallen and lost my six-figure commission... and I can't get up."

This is what you politically ignorant neo-cons get for thinking that just saying "no" long and loud was going to win.

If you neo-cons had half a brain you would have developed a health plan of your own, gotten all your guys (Rush, Glen, Robert, Winter, Palin, Huckabilly, etc.) behind it and flogged the crap out of it in the evening news shows, the Sunday talk shows, the blogesphere, and the past election.

It's not too late.... but time's a wastin'.

Maybe this has been your plan all along... to wait until a real bill comes out and then beat it to death with your own alternative. Might work.

Until then, I'm getting my rocks off listening ins.dave, rivers, and the rest of you "agents of greed" cry, wail, moan, gripe, and shake in fear that "the sky has fallen." I saw it all in 1963 with Medicare. It was fun to watch back then, it's even more fun to watch you guys now. I'm looking forward to the biggest whiner of them all to come on here... the Chicken Little of this venue... waving his Glock and giving us his Cold War fantasy about the commie behind every tree.

For someone who takes all the abuse you arch/neos can dish out, watching you see your commissions go slowly down the drain doesn't get any better for me. Yeah, it is wrong to take pleasure from someone else's pain, but given how you beat the crap out of me each and every day here, well, what goes around... comes around. As the MickeyD's ad goes, "I'm lovin' it!"

[dgoldenz]

A good agent will always be able to make money selling other lines of business....I'm more worried about the massive increase in premiums and potential implications on the economy itself than my own commissions.

[al3]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

I'm more worried about the massive increase in premiums and potential implications on the economy itself than my own commissions.

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That's a good one! Gimme air. Laughing to hard. Air... I need air... I'm dying' here.

And they say you neo-cons don't have a sense of humor.

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Gasp, gasp... thanks. I needed that. Funniest thing I've heard all week. Send this in to Leno. I know he will book you. You might get a shot a Letterman too. You're a riot.

You're more worried about the economy and premiums... oh lord that is so funny... I just can't stop.

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Now I got the hiccups for laughing so hard. You are one very funny guy!

Screw insurance. Take that schtick to SNL. You and Tina are going to be great!!

[dgoldenz]

Um....ok.....whatever you say guy.

[TristanTLC]

I must've missed something. Who's Tina?

[Rivers1]

Originally Posted by al3

"Help! I've fallen and lost my six-figure commission... and I can't get up."

This is what you politically ignorant neo-cons get for thinking that just saying "no" long and loud was going to win.

Nobody here is talking income except you Alison. You're in your sixties and act like a whiney baby. Stop bitching.

When this piece of dung legislation bankrupts the country and screws up the whole healthcare system within ten years I'll remember how proud you were for that to happen.

Pass anything whether good or bad is your motto, huh?
Congrats for being the problem and not the solution!

[al3]

Originally Posted by Rivers1

Nobody here is talking income except you Alison. You're in your sixties and act like a whiney baby. Stop bitching.

It's that same sweet smell again. What is that smell....

YouTube - Apocalypse Now - smell of napalm