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Old 06-24-2009, 06:33 PM   #1
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:12 PM   #2
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Only if he changes parties. Republicans are held to a higher standard, and not just by the press, but by other Republicans..
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No.

Now, if he would've gone some place like Tibet and met with the Dalai Lama and his girlfriend, then perhaps he could be the Dem nominee?
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You Republicans are finally trying to catch up. Even though it was one of your own who popularized the saying "Walk softly but carry a big dick," (Teddy Roosevelt) historically it has been the Dems who fulfilled that policy... FDR, JFK, Clinton, Spitzer, Edwards.

The last time any Rep. showed that he could get it up was when Rockefeller assumed room temp. on top of Meegan.

Now with Sanford, we see that Reps. are human too. Who would have known?

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This bodes very well for Republicans. Finally, someone caught with his pants down that's heterosexual.

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Old 06-25-2009, 07:08 AM   #6
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The last time any Rep. showed that he could get it upAl
I think many Republican men have trouble getting it up for a few days after seeing Hillary, Pelosi, or Barbara Boxer on television. You can understand that.
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Most married men have affairs at some point. This is my own personal assessment and not based on any published statistics -not that you should believe published statistics anyway. Genetics, testosterone, evolution, the instinct to spread your genes, whatever. The strange woman syndrome (or "seven year itch") is going to come into play at some point. Flying to Argentina to find "strange" might be a bit over the top, but still...

And no, I haven't had this particular discussion with my wife.

The American voter has a 3 day attentions span. The guy could be elected Pope if that particular race were decided by the American electorate. He just needs to wait 3 days and resume his career. Unpublished statistical proof of this? Bill Clinton was easily re-elected, wasn't he?

All John Edwards needs to do, beside the 3-day thing, is wait for his wife to die and for her book to be forgotten. Just watch, he will be back in politics and his past completely forgotten.
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Most married men have affairs at some point. This is my own personal assessment and not based on any published statistics -not that you should believe published statistics anyway. Genetics, testosterone, evolution, the instinct to spread your genes, whatever. The strange woman syndrome (or "seven year itch") is going to come into play at some point. Flying to Argentina to find "strange" might be a bit over the top, but still...

And no, I haven't had this particular discussion with my wife.

The American voter has a 3 day attentions span. The guy could be elected Pope if that particular race were decided by the American electorate. He just needs to wait 3 days and resume his career. Unpublished statistical proof of this? Bill Clinton was easily re-elected, wasn't he?

All John Edwards needs to do, beside the 3-day thing, is wait for his wife to die and for her book to be forgotten. Just watch, he will be back in politics and his past completely forgotten.
I think that when it is just a simple matter of the elected offical dipping his pickle elsewhere then that is not grounds for removal from office or resignation. It may be grounds for his wife to shoot him or divorce him or for the electorate to not re-elect him though.

Where it gets dicey is when it appears that it is more than just a simple pickle-dipping and the official is erratic or abdicating his responsibilities. If you are governor and the state police are starting to treat you as a missing person and wonder if the the lieutenant governor should be sworn in, then that is not just a simple pickle dipping. It relates to his job performance.

Similarly, I really dont give a fig one way or the other about JFK and his women because his wife could leave him or not and the voters could elect him or not. However, he was porking Judith Exner in the White House. Judith Exner was Sam Giancana the mob leaders woman. And at the same time the CIA was paying Giancana and the mob to assasinate Castro. Meanwhile, the secret service is shielding JFK while he is with these bimbos. That whole Judith Exner thing was a massive, massive security risk and way beyond a simple dipping in my view. Same with Teddy, it adds another dimension when you kill the woman you are with, but I digress.

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Ah, and now for your summer reading enjoyment (thanks for the suggestion, Winter!) It really is a great book!



Amazon.com: Double Cross: The Explosive, Inside...Amazon.com: Double Cross: The Explosive, Inside...
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Ah, and now for your summer reading enjoyment (thanks for the suggestion, Winter!) It really is a great book!



Amazon.com: Double Cross: The Explosive, Inside Story of the Mobster Who Controlled America: Chuck Giancana, Sam Giancana: Books

Yeh. That whole episode is based in fact. As a piece of trivia, the FBI agent (Robert Maheu) who negotiated the hit job on Castro lives the next town up from me, or did if he is still living. He met with Sam Giancana in Miami along with Santo Traficante who headed up the mob in Cuba. Meanwhile JFK is porking Giancana's girlfriend in the White House. Some of these guys must have had a death wish.

J. Edgar Hoover was owned by the mob too. He started getting rough on the mob but they got pictures of him in drag all over the country and pictures of him doing oral stuff in New Orleans and that kept him in line. Bobby hated J. Edgar and he actually went after the mob too so he was the only one in the crew who wasnt owned by the mob and was actually fighting organized crime. My understanding anyway.

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Northern democrats seem to like Sanford and I'm not sure why. I can't figure out if it's his politics or his wife that they like.
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Yeah, you're right. This particular case was beyond simply straying from the wife.

My own personal observation is that most men, even those not actively looking for some action, will succumb to anything attractive that makes the offer. Men in power, even men who happen to be the boss in a small office, will tend to get offers on a frequent basis. Clinton never met a woman he could refuse, and apparently being attractive was not a prerequisite.

That leads to the CIA, Mafia and intrigue thing. Unfortunately, the need to breed can lead to getting yourself into some very strange situations.

With almost unlimited power granted to you for life together with some basic perversion, you can end up with something like J. Edgar.

I think Edgar and Barney Frank would have made an attractive couple. I keep picturing Edgar in his dress and maybe Barney dressed up like Elmer Fudd.
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Well now that Sanford's presidential aspirations are dead, he can move to Argentina and spend some quality time with the love of his life.

As a former Governor and Member of Congress he should be able to land himself a nice consulting job down there.
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Old 06-26-2009, 01:35 PM   #14
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Gosh, no kidding.

I think the state should offer to pay for a one-way ticket, and just let him go away.....

In the meantime, it will be interesting to see what arises (so to speak):

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I would like to see more of his wife and less of him. I dont know anything about her but there was a quote from her yesterday that said "I have to be focusing on my familly at this time and let him worry about his career."

She sounds like my kind of man. I am thinking that she is not going to be standing up beside him looking like a truck ran over her. As John Edwards said about Elizabeth "this is not her fault." Uh duh, no shoot John. And did you mention that she is in remission?
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Someone needs to do a chart of choice excuses.

Most frequent: "I lost my focus and betrayed my family, for which I am truly sorry."

My favorite: "She was in remission when the affair started."

Standard denial: "I did not have sex with that woman."

Flip Wilson: "The devil made me do it" (also works for televangelists).

Plausible now that a suspect has been arrested: "We had an affair, I freely admit it, but I did not kill her."

Not that plausible: "I was just tapping my foot."

Wilbur excuse: "I love her."

I sure you can think of others.
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Ok, those all pretty serious.

I would've liked the "fly on the wall" versions of

Hugh Grant
Eddie Murphy
Danny Bonaduce

Okay, I'll get my mind out of the gutter now!
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I sure you can think of others.
Some of the excuses are excellent but not of practical use for the masses. Example:

"I had an affair because I was a POW and my wife was in an accident and is ugly as hell now."

Pithy but not highly applicable.

Other excuses are actually valid explanations in my view. Example:

"I was married to Hillary."
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Ahh... the McCain defense, I liked that one and forgot about it. The excuse basically was "We became different people and drifted apart. You would be different too after being a POW for years."

I would prefer the more honest "I found someone younger, much prettier, and rich as hell. Tell me with a straight face you would not have done the same."

Maybe he would have won with that approach. No, sorry, it went to the guy who was better at promising change.
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Oh man, just saw this bit on yahoo news. The only question left now is whether his wife can legally boot him out of the governor's mansion while she is living there. Man, what a flaming idiot. Women can sometimes put up with a sexual straying if you are lucky but if you start blabbing to the world about how the other women is your soul mate, you are history.

They say that "if you dont spout, they cant harpoon you." Wow, has he violated that rule. Mark, you gonna love Argentina.

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