Without knowing a thing about MonaVie, I met a guy last week who went through all his ailments PLUS he said he was taking 7X the oxycontin level that killed AnnaNicole Smith on a daily basis before the product. He just started drinking it in January, and is off all of the meds and is able to walk without pain. I have no idea how much MonaVie costs but you know, if it's relatively cheap and it works for some, so be it!
PS I've also heard that along a short drive in Utah, you can visit the home office of nearly every MLM. What does that tell ya?
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Are we really having this discussion? MLM is a joke.Go to Top
Is there really any question about the validity of MLM?
I mean come on, the whole business model is set up to make the owners rich and no one else any money.
I know several guys who make tons of money selling the "Dream" to other dreamers who want to make money without doing any work.
His pitch is to sell the business opportunity to other biz op seekers, who then turn around and sell it to more biz op seekers. No one ever selling a legitimate product, no one ever making any money except him.
I've seen Primerica, Mona Vie, Xango, ACN, Ameriplan, Noni, and on and on, it's all the same thing in a different package. Make the Kings rich and the pawns poorer. I'm not saying the folks who get involved don't have some responsibility, of course they do. I just don't feel good about lying and taking advantage of people.
Many of the MLM's of the past have been shut down by the Gov. because they are flat out crooks and liars.
No matter the temptation, just focus on the marketing of your insurance, and you'll be much better off.
@ TIM Monavie is the biggest scam. Do you know there is a new JUICE MLM coming out everyday? They all have patents and amazing benefits to your body just like Monavie. (but the statements are not evaluated by the fda) I just went to costco and bought a huge bag of frozen natural blueberrys and rasberries to make my smoothies every morning for 5-7 bucks. I think that beats buying a bottle of your magic potion for 60 bucks. For the amount of time your wife is using scaming people and selling the dream, she could be doing something alot more productive. (and honest!)
Just my .02
Check out univera! Univera® it has double the ORACs then monavie! Your wife better switch over now.
Sony, who hurt you and abused you when you were a young child and made you so bitter against the world?
You know, its a product. Its a system. If someone wants to do it, then WTF does it matter to you??? Quit barking at and chasing parked cars, man. Who gives crap about new stuff coming out every day!!! The population is growing fast enough to support new products and new systems coming out all the time. Hey man, different strokes for different folks.
Furthermore, you have shown your ignorance about the price. Its actually $20 that we pay. Not only are you chasing a parked car, but you don't even know anything about the car.
As for accusing my wife of scamming folks and suggesting that she do something more productive with her time.... You just crossed the line. If you want to accuse, you better stick with me because my wife will smoke both of us when it comes to morals, ethics, and purity of life. She has the most pure motives of anyone I have ever known. Take my advice and leave her out of this unless you have something to say face to face to me and are willing to man-up and drive the distance.
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P.O. Box 1617
Gadsden, AL 35902
Wow....let's indeed not cross the line here by calling out other's wives! For Pete's sake - isn't it enough we dig into each other? Now we're calling people's wives unethical? Good Lord!
Many wives are into things like Pampered Chef, Tupperware, etc...all MLM's all perfectly legit.
If my wife wants to get into a MLM this would be my suggestion for her. Now....my wife's a former Hooters girl, college cheerleader (well...community college, but it counts!) and has some rather attractive friends.
Sony, who hurt you and abused you when you were a young child and made you so bitter against the world?
You know, its a product. Its a system. If someone wants to do it, then WTF does it matter to you??? Quit barking at and chasing parked cars, man. Who gives crap about new stuff coming out every day!!! The population is growing fast enough to support new products and new systems coming out all the time. Hey man, different strokes for different folks.
Furthermore, you have shown your ignorance about the price. Its actually $20 that we pay. Not only are you chasing a parked car, but you don't even know anything about the car.
As for accusing my wife of scamming folks and suggesting that she do something more productive with her time.... You just crossed the line. If you want to accuse, you better stick with me because my wife will smoke both of us when it comes to morals, ethics, and purity of life. She has the most pure motives of anyone I have ever known. Take my advice and leave her out of this unless you have something to say face to face to me and are willing to man-up and drive the distance.
@TIM
Get your facts straight pal. LINK Its 45 bucks a bottle.
Where are you getting 20 from? Who is "WE"? Because it sure dosn't envolve myself or those interested in purchasing the 40 dollar - 2 buck chuck.
Nobody hurt me when I was younger, great comeback though. "The most pure motives? I'm guessing she wears the pants in the family too.
Maybe I was fortunate enough to be surrounded by smart and sophisticated/experienced individuals while being raised. Let me guess, now your going to attack my spelling and punctuation errors... give me a break! "the population is growing!" omg... You're just a knuckle head. Lay off the Forest Gump movies...
Monavie is the biggest scam. Do you know there is a new JUICE MLM coming out everyday? They all have patents and amazing benefits to your body just like Monavie. (but the statements are not evaluated by the fda)
I just went to costco and bought a huge bag of frozen natural blueberrys and rasberries to make my smoothies every morning for 5-7 bucks. I think that beats buying a bottle of your magic potion for 60 bucks. For the amount of time your wife is using scaming people and selling the dream, she could be doing something alot more productive. (and honest!)
Just my .02
Check out univera! Univera® it has double the ORACs then monavie! Your wife better switch over now.
"Smoothies" for breakfast.
Whatever happened to a cup of coffee, an alka seltzer over easy, and a couple of cigarettes?
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Take my advice and leave her out of this unless you have something to say face to face to me and are willing to man-up and drive the distance.
Yeah. OK. Let's go! All right! There's the Alabama right-wing whack-o ethic I like to see. Let's blow up someone's church... or better yet lynch them! You sure as hell give it out damn well, but you are a major wus when it's given back to you.
You're the guy in the white shirt and tie holding the sign, right? Looks like you. Yeah, it's you. I remember you well... because I was there.
Al3: Not sure I would have gone there.... but I've come to have lower and lower expectations of many on this site lately.... getting a bit boring......yawn!
------------------------------------ I am not a vegetarian because I hate meat... I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants!
Get your facts straight pal. LINK Its 45 bucks a bottle.
Where are you getting 20 from? Who is "WE"? Because it sure dosn't envolve myself or those interested in purchasing the 40 dollar - 2 buck chuck.
Nobody hurt me when I was younger, great comeback though. "The most pure motives? I'm guessing she wears the pants in the family too.
Maybe I was fortunate enough to be surrounded by smart and sophisticated/experienced individuals while being raised. Let me guess, now your going to attack my spelling and punctuation errors... give me a break! "the population is growing!" omg... You're just a knuckle head. Lay off the Forest Gump movies...
Sony,
1. I have a standing order at a level that gets me to $20/bottle. But, oh yeah....thats just for some of us SUCKERS who were stupid enough to get in the business end of things. But, after all, with your blueberry concoction from Sam's, what need to you have of the good-stuff?
2. Man, I told you about bringing my wife into this. Not a good move on your part. You simply don't know what you are doing. If you did...
3. You become the element on this forum when you insult forum member's spouses and their families with your little childish remarks like "fortunate enough to be surrounded by smart and sophisticated/experienced individuals while being raised". Like I said, if you want to attack me, that's fine. It would be a good idea to stick with attacking me. When it comes to the integrity and decency of my wife and parents...you just don't have a clue. Last time - leave them out of it.
4. As for your spelling and punctuation errors. I couldn't care less. Its your decision if you want to have an uneducated image. Hmmppphhhh! And they talk about people from Alabama. I think I'm looking pretty good right now.
5. Yep, sometimes I'm a knuckle-head....and man, oh man...I could watch Forrest at least once each week. I think you and some others could take lessons in decency and human relations from Mr. Gump.
Wow....let's indeed not cross the line here by calling out other's wives! For Pete's sake - isn't it enough we dig into each other? Now we're calling people's wives unethical? Good Lord!
I am publicly calling on Sam to have a published policy that involves expulsion when it comes to statements against a forum member's spouse or family. Its one thing to beat each other up. I'm cool with that. But, the fact is that when it goes farther than that, we are on dangerous ground. Things have a real potential to get ugly, on a whole new level, when forum members lower themselves to that level.
I saw before and after photos of some NuSkin product on a male hair-challenged scalp, and it looked like it works! I'm not hair-challenged, but curious as to whether anyone's tried NuSkin stuff.
I am publicly calling on Sam to have a published policy that involves expulsion when it comes to statements against a forum member's spouse or family.
That is absurd. No one was attacking your wife. They just criticized her for being part of an MLM program. Anyone who is part of the MLM "culture" should know full well that many people consider it a scam and those who engage in it as scammers.
That does not make it so, and as such you should not get all bent out of shape. It's not like they called her a whore or a slut. Yeah, then I could see you getting angry, but get off your high horse and see the criticism for what it was... a commentary on MLM salespeople and not about your spouse's integrity, honesty, or her character.
Yeah. OK. Let's go! All right! There's the Alabama right-wing whack-o ethic I like to see. Let's blow up someone's church... or better yet lynch them! You sure as hell give it out damn well, but you are a major wus when it's given back to you.
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You're the guy in the white shirt and tie holding the sign, right? Looks like you. Yeah, it's you. I remember you well... because I was there.
Al, such a fighter. The difference in you and me is that you go looking for a fight. I wait until the fight comes to me and then... Well, I choose to let those events speak for themselves.
As for blowing up someone's church and lynching someone: Al, you are behaving as one who is insane. I absolutely condemn that kind of violent activity. Be assured, when it comes to picking on someone about race relations, you have made a bad choice. If you'd like, I could tell you about the time I that I lost a job because I did not share a certain negative view regarding race relations. I could tell you stories left and right about things that I have done to piss off people who have a racial bias. Just because I was born in Alabama, don't make the assumption that I am racist. Don't make the assumption that any Alabamian is racist unless he gives you proof. I have friends of all races. And, if I gave a $hit concerning what you thought about me, I'd invite them on here to put you in your place.
As for giving it out and being a "wus" about taking it: I have no problem taking any criticism that is fair and objective, and I will answer that criticism honestly. The problem on this forum lately is that my two main critics...you and that other kid...in my old age, I have forgotten his name...but, both of you have been hateful, not objective. And if you are referring to the anger I express over my wife and parents being brought into this - deal with it. When someone is low enough to bring a forum member's wife or family into the picture, not only will I defend mine, but I'll stand with the guy or gal whose spouse and family was unfairly attacked. Those with decency and integrity will do the same.
Your picture: I deleted that disgraceful thing because you didn't have the good taste to be satisfied by having already posted it in another thread. Sad. Very sad.
As for the presumption of my presence in the photograph: Born in 1969. Get it? And if you were there, it is a thing to be regretted. If you were there as an oppressor, shame on you. If you were there as a victim, we are all genuinely sorry for whatever happened to you. But, I would assess the possibility of your presence as doubtful. After all, you have already lied and said that you remember my presence. I guess I was out for my afternoon nap.
I saw before and after photos of some NuSkin product on a male hair-challenged scalp, and it looked like it works! I'm not hair-challenged, but curious as to whether anyone's tried NuSkin stuff.
I've used Nioxin products NIOXIN® Research Laboratories: en for the past seven years and I know it works (for me)... not to grow hair... but to prevent hair loss and thinning.
As soon as I noticed the beginning of the male pattern bald spot at the top (when I was in my early 50s) I started using the product and I've not had any further erosion of hair. Here is a pix taken of me last week in Los Angeles at the BookExpo America (I still have hair at age 60!):
(Her name is Jula Jane. Yeah, she's a major book-babe. My entire report of the book convention is at A Saturday Rant: June 2008 if you are interested.)
Maybe it is coincidence but I'm not taking a chance by stopping to find out! Nioxin is not too expensive and you can get it an most beauty supply stores. I use the shampoo and the therapy rinse System 2. NIOXIN® Research Laboratories: System 2
As always (especially here) YMMV.
(No, I did not score with Jula. But I bet some of you younger guys could have!)
Al3: Not sure I would have gone there.... but I've come to have lower and lower expectations of many on this site lately.... getting a bit boring......yawn!
If he had any common sense, he wouldn't have gone there. Isn't it lovely to have your expectations met.
Re: MLM in your face?
I absolutely condemn that kind of violent activity. Be assured, when it comes to picking on someone about race relations, you have made a bad choice. If you'd like, I could tell you about the time I that I lost a job because I did not share a certain negative view regarding race relations. I could tell you stories left and right about things that I have done to piss off people who have a racial bias. Just because I was born in Alabama, don't make the assumption that I am racist. Don't make the assumption that any Alabamian is racist unless he gives you proof. I have friends of all races. And, if I gave a $hit 
concerning what you thought about me, I'd invite them on here to put you in your place. 
Sad. Very sad.
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