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Old 09-10-2009, 02:52 PM   #1
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Affiliate story number 2,798.

Just got off the phone with someone who said he searched "File Unemployment Online," and the next thing he knows...he's getting a call from an agent wanting to give him a health insurance quote.

So I searched myself and found this site which leads to the following link:

File Unemployment Online

NQ's affiliate problem appears to be getting worse, not better.

Just my opinion, of course.
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:15 PM   #2
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You say that like it is a bad thing . . .
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Well...I don't know about "the next thing he knows...." This at least clearly states that he'll be getting health insurance quotes.
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:18 PM   #4
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The point was...the search term he used and where he ended up. Not necessarily what was stated once he got there.

I'll have a full report on NQ coming up next month
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:51 PM   #5
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True but this guy's still an idiot. I mean really - if you were looking for information on Corvettes and saw a big ad "GET A LIFE INSURANCE QUOTE" would you really fill it out then be "shocked."
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:14 AM   #6
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I had the samething, a lady went online to look for a puppy at a classified site and she filled out the health insurance form. I said "Didn't you think it was odd that they asked your height and weight" She said yes that was odd, but she's just looking for a puppy not health insurance. Also, I usually don't have two lead companies going at the sametime but about a month ago i had insureme and net quote leads coming in at the same time. I was getting the same leads from both companies, when i called insure me they told me yes they do send their leads over to netquote, i think the reason was there weren't many agents that insureme had for that particular zip and when that happens they send to net quote for quotes also
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:52 AM   #7
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I had netquotes and insureme at the same time as well. NQ was always quick to credit me for leads that came through both sites. IM at first played dumb. Those leads were always grumpy. Thy would be getting calls from 7-10 agents. *Sigh* I'm preaching to the choir. It is what it is with lead companies...

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Lead companies wholesale their "left over" leads to competitors.
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Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD View Post
Affiliate story number 2,798.

Just got off the phone with someone who said he searched "File Unemployment Online," and the next thing he knows...he's getting a call from an agent wanting to give him a health insurance quote.

So I searched myself and found this site which leads to the following link:

File Unemployment Online

NQ's affiliate problem appears to be getting worse, not better.

Just my opinion, of course.

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C'mon Chumps. More info.
How long were you on the horn with the guy?
How much contact and other info. did you receive?
Cost of lead?
Tat on inquirey? (How old was it?)
Single guy ... family ... ?
Medical issues?

Talk about it.
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:58 PM   #10
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Not much to say about it. I was on the phone with him for about 10 minutes. He talked a lot. I listened a lot.

Lead cost $7 and was not credited back (unless they change their mind).

Lead was less than 15 minutes old.

Single man in 60s.

Plenty of medical issues. Uninsurable.
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Plenty of medical issues. Uninsurable.
Sounds like he needs to get a job.
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Originally Posted by somarco View Post
Sounds like he needs to get a job.
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Hmmmmmm.
So are you inferring that people’s need for health coverage may prompt them to show up on Monday morning?
Interesting. It would seem that this impetus (fear) would help perpetuate, sustain and propagate the class dynamic which is the primary driver, socio - economically speaking, in this; more so than any other industrialized country?
One sixth of the U.S. economy. In many ways, larger still?

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Not much to say about it. I was on the phone with him for about 10 minutes. He talked a lot. I listened a lot.

Lead cost $7 and was not credited back (unless they change their mind).

Lead was less than 15 minutes old.

Single man in 60s.

Plenty of medical issues. Uninsurable.
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Yeah, that's a b*stard when they don't disclose health issues.

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Go to your site. Select a line of coverage, such as health insurance. Enter a zip code. Directed to eHealthinsurance, Blue Cross, Benepath, Vimo.

You are right. You don't handle leads. Just providing a public service.

This thread is also quite revealing . . .

I am currently #2 in Google for "free online insurance"

Not sure that phrase "free online insurance" is going to convert quality Leads for you. Very low search volume (880 exact searches- Nationwide)

This site sells leads to lead companies...Right?
No.... page 2 of the quote page tells you this......NAA.....really.....

What do I win if I get this right?
A visit from a NAA agent.......

We are a matchmaking quote service that connects consumers with insurance companies across a variety of insurance policy types.


Lead generation web site, AKA affiliate.

Yeah, those are real quality leads the folks at NetQuote, Vimo, Benepath, and eHealth are buying.

"Go peddle crazy somewhere else. We're all booked up here."
We don't use any of those companies. All of those companies provide bad leads because they resale them.

It's pretty ironic that the OP quoted Mahalo (without sourcing it) to discuss how he used their tips to promote a site that Calacanis (founder of Mahalo) would consider Affiliate Internet Spam.
So many twists and turns, and you accuse me of twisting the truth? Get real.
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Old 10-07-2009, 10:39 AM   #15
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We DO NOT sell leads to companies. People come to our site and we direct them to companies like Allstate etc... People DO NOT even get quotes on our website. We don't even handle leads. I will be talking to a moderator about deleting the false accusations you posted though.
Please, spare us with the word play. Sure, you can say you don't "sell leads," as can most affiliates. You sell "traffic"...big difference. You're an affiliate and your only client is Sure Hits, wow, congrats.

To those not in the "know", Sure Hits is the same company that puts those ads up on "thank you" pages after consumers have filled out a quote form. They get money from every company that pays to advertise with them (sometimes direct writers, sometimes lead companies). Most lead companies make a substantial portion of their revenue from them.

So, this guy just made a site to get people to click on Sure Hits. He makes about $7 per click. Nothing original; there are probably over 100 thousands sites that do the same thing.
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Originally Posted by somarco View Post
Go to your site. Select a line of coverage, such as health insurance. Enter a zip code. Directed to eHealthinsurance, Blue Cross, Benepath, Vimo.

You are right. You don't handle leads. Just providing a public service.

This thread is also quite revealing . . .



So many twists and turns, and you accuse me of twisting the truth? Get real.
We use SureHits. Whats the problem with that? I never once twisted the truth. People asked us if we sold leads. I said no, and then people started of accusing of of things that wern't true. That's all your going to see in that post. People who accuse us of things that don't understand what we do like your doing right now.

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Originally Posted by insurancemaster View Post
We use SureHits. Whats the problem with that? I never once twisted the truth. People asked us if we sold leads. I said no, and then people started of accusing of of things that wern't true. That's all your going to see in that post. People who accuse us of things that don't understand what we do like your doing right now.
That IS twisting the truth. You are doing it by squeezing in the assumption that a "lead" is a completed quote form. That's false. A "lead" is a person supposedly looking for insurance, and that's exactly what you're selling to Sure Hits. That the actual quote form isn't filled out on your page is inconsequential; most affiliates (who will gladly admit that they sell LEADS) simply re-direct traffic to lead companies' hosted quote forms anyway. You're just directing them to Sure Hits, who will direct them to a company's quote form.

So, you're selling leads to a company who sells them to various companies. And you have the gall to say it's way off base to claim you sell leads? I understand EXACTLY what you're doing; I probably have more experience in the industry than you do.
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I'm both an affiliate and an agency owner.

The site in question is a bit over the top. If you start from the home page you get several offers before you get to the page that gives you the information you probably wanted.

However, since our agency sells a lot to the unemployed, I don't think that the basic concept behind the website is wrong. I think that the the fact that they make you jump through so many hoops to get the information you requested is wrong however.

The unemployed include the person who is going to start their own business and will keep their insurance. It includes those who are going to get part-time or other jobs that will not offer them benefits. It includes those whose spouses are earning a good living.

I have a page on one of my websites that I created a long time ago with a list of insurance department websites. The purpose of creating the page was to get a little more traffic, but the focus of the page is the information that a web searcher was probably looking for.

I would have no problem with the website in question if they gave you the information you wanted before you went through a gauntlet of offers for health insurance, credit repair, etc.
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Thx for the insight, Alston.
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Unfortunately, I think NQ has taken a serious dive in recent years. I have 3 agents who attempted to use them, and in all three cases the leads were very bad. Additionally, I think that many people don't understand that when they give out contact information on the web, they are automatically put on a list. They are very defensive when contacted.

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