New Mortgage Leads We Just Released/ Read Now

GP32765 · 04-11-2008, 03:19 PM

No kidding

moonlightandmargaritas · 04-11-2008, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by GP32765

Please read my last posting, Is it not feasible that the rep could be an assistant? If you think that is lying than I am sorry. As for the post, I have posted here for over a year now and given a lot of free information to new agents regarding sales. I have given back to the forum!
I was simply replying to a post.

How "often", and how "frequently" you post is worthless obfuscation.

Sounds like you have a reading comprehension problem.

From YOUR post, and again I QUOTE, "We tell the prospect we are calling locally..."

Is that not what YOU wrote? Is this what you "stand by"?

rawannam · 04-11-2008, 03:58 PM

[quote=moonlightandmargaritas;62261]How "often", and how "frequently" you post is worthless obfuscation.

Obfuscation, now that my friends has to be the word of the day! Always fun to drop in a doozy like that.

djs · 04-11-2008, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by moonlightandmargaritas

How "often", and how "frequently" you post is worthless obfuscation.

Sounds like you have a reading comprehension problem.

From YOUR post, and again I QUOTE, "We tell the prospect we are calling locally..."

Is that not what YOU wrote? Is this what you "stand by"?

If this is the biggest problem in this industry, we have succeeded! Personally, I would prefer it wasn't said that you were calling locally, let people assume it from the local area code. On the other hand, you are calling the 'local' area, or locally to the prospect, so it is technically correct, even though you are calling from out of state (perhaps).

Besides, who gets to define 'locally'? The person from the next county over, the person from the next state? The person from the next country? Or the man on the moon? It's a relative term.

Okay, I'm going for more popcorn, please wait for the bell before you proceed to round 2.

Dan

moonlightandmargaritas · 04-11-2008, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by djs

Besides, who gets to define 'locally'? The person from the next county over, the person from the next state? The person from the next country? Or the man on the moon? It's a relative term.

Reading this brings Bill Clinton to mind...

You can argue semantics all you like. This however, is a question of integrity.

insureitnow · 04-11-2008, 05:17 PM

Gary,

Why didn't you post your initial post in "Insurance Offers" forum?

GP32765 · 04-14-2008, 09:45 AM

Thanks for the comments!
I should have posted it on the (offers) and will do so. Thanks.

CO Planner · 04-14-2008, 01:11 PM

First, a disclaimer. I am a 1st time poster (subject to beginner ridicule), and have been in the business for 21 years. I have followed the forum for a few weeks now, and have done a lot of reading.

Moonlight, your posts have always seemed right on to me, showing insight, perspective, and experience, and yes, an admirable aptitude for spelling...

This response kind of surprised me. I do understand why the wording upset you, and how you felt it was a misrepresentation. It seems to me that the wording could be changed just slightly to make it clear.

The primary point is that they would be calling for you, or a local agent, so that a local agent can talk with them intellegiently about their needs. They would not be selling them from a call center with an agent who has been in the business for a month.

I have read all of the negative comments about internet leads (which I have never used), and thought this was an interesting idea to get some (potentially) quality life insurance leads for newer reps, or experienced reps that are looking for an additional outlet.

I read the thread from awhile back when Craig 1st started this with health leads, and was considering testing it with life leads.

Here is my question, has anyone here used his system or company, and if so, what were your results.

*STIBROKER@AUSTIN.RR.COM* · 04-14-2008, 01:13 PM

Cough...cough....SHILL....cough.....

GP32765 · 04-14-2008, 01:18 PM

Co planner
We just release the life/mortgage leads to agents last week, and we are gathering data now for the the clients who have bought.
As for the CRM, that product's success is well documented on this forum.
Gary

LGilmore · 04-14-2008, 03:07 PM

Excuse me, at some point I have to wonder, what are you paying to advertise here? Are you just posting in an attempt to sell your system here? Shouldn't you be paying this forum a fee or something?

You chose not to post on the insurance offers section and when reminded it's a "yea sorry, I'll post it there.."

So one of two things is happening here.. one you aren't smart enough to post this in the "offers" section.. which means you may not be smart enough on a basic level.. or

You are very smart and knew it is better to ask forgiveness than permission... which can make one wonder about trustworhy business practices.

Hmmmmm...

Ahnuld · 04-14-2008, 03:37 PM

Well. I think the consensus of opinion is overwhelming negative in promoting product and/or services other than the "Insurance Offers" thread.

That having been said, you might wish to redact prior to publication; you claim to have been misinterpreted as to your offer and intent.* Obviously, others think otherwise.

Simplify. Too much information. You're setting yourself up to be judged. Any statement giving ANY tinge or iota of abridging and impugning agents'-at-large integrity will be met with the response(s) you have received. Sir, you have done yourself a disservice.

* For fun puzzler: Can anyone find the redundancy in this sentence?

"That having been said, you might wish to redact prior to publication; you claim to have been misinterpreted as to your offer and intent.*"

CHUMPS FROM OXFORD · 04-14-2008, 03:45 PM

That having been said & you claim?

We need more puzzlers like that!

CO Planner · 04-14-2008, 03:48 PM

I do agree that it should be posted in the Offers section. Not a shill Sti, just an interested observer, but dissinterested 3rd party.

Got me Ahnuld, I even looked up redact and still don't have a good answer...

Ahnuld · 04-14-2008, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD

That having been said & you claim?

We need more puzzlers like that!

Wow! That was a trick question. In fact there are two redundancies. I only mentioned the one because I deemed the one you found too difficult. Nonetheless, you found the hidden one, Good job and a gold star for you!

The redundancy poser in the sentence noted is "redact" and "prior to publication." Redact means, "edit (text) for publication," therefore it would read "edit for publication prior to publication" which is redundant.

CO Planner · 04-14-2008, 04:18 PM

Ahh... I only read the 1st definition, which was to draw up, write out or frame, which you would do prior to publication. The 2nd def. was to edit for publication. Nice teaser.

Mr. Bill · 04-14-2008, 04:48 PM

What is this, psycho college English teacher deja vu? Ha just kidding.

Keep 'em coming, but please post in the Non-Insurance discussions!

Ahnuld · 04-14-2008, 05:06 PM

Actually, it was peripheral to my response to GP32765's comments. I just threw it in for extra credit. Sorry.

tommyk · 04-16-2008, 09:07 AM

Moonlight do you buy leads from anywhere?

If so, what did the marketers say to the client? Did they provide you with their script to make you feel warm and fuzzy or do you even know?

The point I see here is that someone is selling leads...if you are not interested in buying them so be it...if someone is interested...so be it.

moonlightandmargaritas · 04-16-2008, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by GP32765

Thanks for the comments!
I should have posted it on the (offers) and will do so. Thanks.

Nice follow-up!