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Sti from what Iread on this board, the insured's family gets 15k out of the deal....


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Old 04-26-2007, 02:26 AM   #221
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Sti from what Iread on this board, the insured's family gets 15k out of the deal.
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:03 AM   #222
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Heck, it's bad enough that my wife gets a mill if I die. Talk about incentive to be a good husband! That's all we need is "investors" to profit when someone older dies:

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Old 04-26-2007, 07:15 AM   #223
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I don't think the commission is an issue when we still have yet to see the policy and who the investors are.
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:28 AM   #224
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Originally Posted by drbsells View Post
Sti from what I read on this board, the insured's family gets 15k out of the deal.
I was going to say....if the family gets a cut.....and does not knock them out on getting another policy with full benefits....might not be a bad deal....but I do suspect that the DOI's will be all in this....I remember when you could dump unlimited funds into WL and UL's before the mec........
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:29 AM   #225
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That is true... just so many people on this board are talking about compensation, so I wanted to tell what I knew.

I also took down the amounts because Maryjd123 started this to recruit (maybe) and it was not right to post that information in public view.

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Old 04-26-2007, 07:45 AM   #226
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Why shouldn't agents know how hard they're getting stroked? It's certainly relavent. My agents are at 20% and I'm at 25%. I wonder how they'd feel if they found out I was at 50%?

We will most certainly be publishing what's in the deal and we'll also be finding out which entities are giving the most in commissions and bonuses.

I'm not signing up with any product unless I know how much the override is. I'm fine at 100% for life if my broker is at 120%. I'm not fine if I'm getting 60% and he's at 120%.
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:57 AM   #227
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Well, I would not encourage any agent to sign any paperwork before they have all the details and have done the research first.
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Old 04-26-2007, 08:08 AM   #228
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Originally Posted by john_petrowski View Post
Well, I would not encourage any agent to sign any paperwork before they have all the details and have done the research first.

I completely agree
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:12 AM   #229
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This is like when Google went public ... some people got in and some didn't. I foresee a lot of people here kicking themselves here.
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:13 AM   #230
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I think I foresee a different set of people kicking themselves than what you see!
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Old 04-26-2007, 10:27 AM   #231
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Originally Posted by AgentOrange View Post
This is like when Google went public ... some people got in and some didn't. I foresee a lot of people here kicking themselves here.
Google. Yes. But don't forget about Pets.com, Kozmo.com, Boo.com. MVP.com, Go.com, Govworks.com AND THE THOUSANDS of IPOS that people lost MILLIONS of dollars on.

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Originally Posted by AgentOrange View Post
This is like when Google went public ... some people got in and some didn't. I foresee a lot of people here kicking themselves here.
When Google went public everyone could look over the entire finacial filing and do some research.

We have no information yet - don't know the product details or the investors. Let's see all the details first.

Who would have jumped into to Google with this:

"We'd like people to buy our stock. We really don't have anything set up yet - that's coming shortly. We like to disclose our financials but haven't gotten around to it yet. But please purchase stock through our Yahoo or Hotmail email address and we'll get back to you."
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:00 PM   #233
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IMHO the accounting acronym "TANSTAAFL" fits this situiation. That translates to "THERE AINT NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH."
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:02 PM   #234
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Old 04-26-2007, 01:33 PM   #235
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They don't even have their website running yet.


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Old 04-26-2007, 01:42 PM   #236
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Lol. I answered a few Craiglist posts and had two people call me back. I swear to God it's like talking to the CIA: "Sir, we can't give you any information or we'd have to kill you." I'm not kidding. One told me he cannot disclose the insurance company. What? Can't disclose the company?

After talking to both people the entire tone of the conversation was like something very dirty and covert was going on. I think I need shower to wash this weird feeling off me.

The first guy who called was extremely stand-offish. He was very curt: "just what kind of information do you want!!!"
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Two different people (non insurance people) I have talked to about this suggested that this may only be a front for some other activity.

One asked if the investors were in this country, if they aren't that this could be a money laundering scam.

At this point with all the "I'm gonna have to shoot you" crap that is going on I guess this could be as valid as anything else we are hearing right now.

Just thought I'd add something else to the mix that I heard.
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""just what kind of information do you want!!!" "

The nerve of him!!! Heaven forbid if you asked for some written information.
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This product is reportedly approved in certain states. I don't know the entire process but they had to submit something for approval.
Does anyone have the ability to investigate from that angle?
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