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Originally Posted by MedSuppPro There, post # 1637. I wounder if Frank has ever posted on this durn thread? Apparently I have, but have no ...


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Old 06-29-2009, 01:16 AM   #1641
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Originally Posted by MedSuppPro View Post
There, post # 1637. I wounder if Frank has ever posted on this durn thread?
Apparently I have, but have no idea when it was or what I said. I have a feeling it was not in support of it though.
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:51 AM   #1642
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First of all, there is no "we"....I don't work for Miracle! Never will again! All my contracts are with people I've met on this forum, or direct because I left Miracle last year. Now does it make sense why I don't have all the info dumb a$$ or is it still too difficult for you to figure out.

HealthAgent, I'm sorry you're such a small man that you have nothing better to do than rag on someone who was trying to share additional information to help warn insurance noobs to stay away from companies like Miracle. I thought that's what this forum was about. It's why I joined almost a year ago now. It was this very thread (before it was merged) that helped me. I always knew something was up with Miracle, but couldn't quite figure it out because I didn't know enough about the insurance business. I figured if I shared the info I have now (despite how little) instead of everyone just speculating, it actually could help someone, since I had a lot more info than anyone else has about what Miracle is doing.

I've been suscribed to the thread for over a year, since I believe my first post was in it, and I keep getting emails because of people posting in it which is what brought me back to the forum after my 4 month absence. There is enogh info in my posts for them to serve their purpose. Anyone who has read my posts and runs into a recruiter for TX, talking about final expense policies funded by the baptist church will probably know to stay away.....especially with what smarco posted on the first page. My information more than validates what he said, and what he said over a year ago, shows I was right in posting what I did. All I can do is share what information I have and let people do with it what they may.

Any reasonably intelligent person can take the info I posted and figure out that they want to stay away from Miracle if they come across one of their recruiters; which was the point of my post (giving people enough info to know if they run into one of them). If you're not reasonably intelligent, and couldn't figure that out that's not my problem and you have done nothing but show what a Jack A$$ you are. Read some of my old posts. I ran hard from this company almost a year ago now, and for most of my current contracts, I am signed under people from this forum, or someone they refered me to. Just because I am friends with Tristan doesn't mean I like his business practices or engage in them, we actually are friends, and good enough friends that he is okay with my leaving him....that's why I was one of the few to get a clean and clear release from TAG. But it is his choice to work for who he does, and it was my choice to leave him. I'm sorry I have better things to do than run around and dig up info that is completely irrelivent to me for some jerk who's acting like a little b!t%h, I have a life. I was nieve enough until this last post of yours to think you wanted the info because you heard something else and it would lead to more info and was actually going to ask and get it for you, wow was I wrong! I'm a full-time grad student and a HS teacher with summer school classes. I sell insurance part-time to suppliment my income, I have neither the time nor the inclination to be treated in the manner in which you have treated me just because I was trying to help. Most of my clients are related to me or friends of relatives so no, I don't have the full-time experience most people here do. I shared what information I have and it is more than enough to know if you run into someone recruiting for them.

A lot of people on this forum have been very helpful to me, and I have tried to give back the little I could to others who are greener than me. I guess that is no longer the spirit of the forum, and now it is just a bunch of know it all's being pr!ck$ to people who aren't in their little click, so I will be leaving. Thanks to everyone else who has helped me, especially Mark, (he really does have the best ideas). I feel sorry for you healthagent, it must be a sad life that you have that the only way you can feel better about yourself is by treating people that are trying to contribute like crap. I'm too good a person do deal with stuff like that, so go get your feel good jollies by being a prick to someone else.....this girl ain't having it!

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And BTW.....what I posted wasn't for you healthagent, or others who have been in the business a long time like you have. By now, I would hope you would know better. Just because the info is worthless to you as is.....doesn't mean it's worthless to the guy that just talked to one of their recruiters, has had his license for all of 2 days, and is now Googleing the company because it all sounds too good to be true (that's what happened to me and how I found this forum). This forum is the top google hit for Miracle ins....and most of it is this thread. That makes my info priceless The point of this forum is not to provide info that is only valuable to healthagent, it's for the more experienced, and previously hoodwinked to share what they've learned so the new guys don't get screwed. Too bad you're too self-centered to realize that, and seem to think everything revolves around you
Tina I apologize. Since it's already been approved in TX and marketing has already started obviously it's legit. I'll just patiently wait here today for you to post the underwriting carrier and the name of the financial institution. Again, my apologies.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:01 PM   #1643
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Tina I apologize. Since it's already been approved in TX and marketing has already started obviously it's legit. I'll just patiently wait here today for you to post the underwriting carrier and the name of the financial institution. Again, my apologies.
Seriously?!?! Are you that dense? I never said it was legit....I don't know how many times I've said it, the whole point of my post was to give the bit of info I had to help warn people, because obviously it's not!! I also told you who was the financial backer.....I'm surprised you even have clients with as little as you pay attention. But you probably know everything.....even when it's nothing.
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:24 AM   #1645
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Ok, i haven't had much time to post this year because I have been incredibly busy trying to roll out this brand new zero premium Life Ins concept. I hate to even mention this because it is not completely finished yet. I will have all the details by the end of next week and I am only contracting 10 agents in each state. The price of contracting went up do to the extensive time I have put into this. It will be $300 but it is well worth it as you will make millions selling this. I can tell you that one of the investors wore a white glove at one time. If you guys don't believe me then you can just beat it.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:23 PM   #1646
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This can't still be around, is it?
Nope, it's a square. Smoke it up!
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:34 PM   #1647
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Ok, i haven't had much time to post this year because I have been incredibly busy trying to roll out this brand new zero premium Life Ins concept. I hate to even mention this because it is not completely finished yet. I will have all the details by the end of next week and I am only contracting 10 agents in each state. The price of contracting went up do to the extensive time I have put into this. It will be $300 but it is well worth it as you will make millions selling this. I can tell you that one of the investors wore a white glove at one time. If you guys don't believe me then you can just beat it.
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Old 08-18-2009, 07:44 PM   #1648
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Where is this zero premium plan at. I've been waitng by my phone since Oct 2006 for this to roll out. I could have been rich by now.
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:01 PM   #1649
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Send me $10.00 and I will send you the information.
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:04 PM   #1650
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Send me $10.00 and I will send you the information.
I sent you $20.00 6 months ago for 2X the information and you haven't yet responded. I just assume you've been busy.

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Old 08-18-2009, 08:26 PM   #1651
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Sorry about that, Rick. I've been up to my eyeballs in requests for information on this product. You're on the wait list and I'll probably get to your request sometime in 2012!
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Old 08-23-2009, 07:20 PM   #1652
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Oh dear G*D people, will this issue ever die? Ali is a crook, we've all figured that out already. If it has the words "Ali Shahrak" attached to it, you want to take out an insurance policy on the guy that is participating in the program, because you'll be rich soon!

I wonder if I can use the Zero Premium to take out a life policy on Ali? I figure at this rate, someone has to take him out sooner or later. I should add a triple accidental rider as well. Can anyone give me a quote on this policy please? Thanks
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:23 PM   #1653
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As far as I understand the zero premium life insurance product has been approved BUT limited to those institutions that fall under section 501 c 3 of the Internal Revenue Code (Charities and Religous organizations). This is due to the fact that these organizations can be deemed as having an "insurable interest" in the insured. This interest is described as pecuniary (monetary).

Has any agent here sold this policy to a church or religous congregation member?

Please share your input with us...
Commissions?
How was it pitched?
Who was the carrier?
How many agents involved?
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Old 10-26-2009, 12:42 AM   #1654
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Darnardo - you are a couple of years late.... This never got off the ground.

This thread is a bit old. One of the more interesting threads, but still not something that ever came to fruition.

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