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Originally Posted by Aaron_4SIGHT If you bring as much passion to selling insurance as some of you have to this thread, you'll be a millionaire ...


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Old 02-03-2009, 08:34 PM   #181
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Originally Posted by Aaron_4SIGHT View Post
If you bring as much passion to selling insurance as some of you have to this thread, you'll be a millionaire in no time!
That first clause is certainly an inspiring thought and a goal to pursue, and if the second occurs as a byproduct, that would be okay too!
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Old 11-10-2009, 07:36 PM   #182
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:57 AM   #183
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Obama's Thanksgiving Message To Supporters

Here's the Thanskgiving message President Obama sent to his campaign supporters Wednesday afternoon, calling to mind American soldiers and workers who can't be with their families for the holiday, and thanking supporters who have backed him "through the victories and the setbacks". I think it is interesting that he has no reference to God when Thanksgiving had it start in the Piligrims giving thanks to God.
Tomorrow, Thanksgiving Day, Americans across the country will sit down together, count our blessings, and give thanks for our families and our loved ones.

American families reflect the diversity of this great nation. No two are exactly alike, but there is a common thread they each share.

Our families are bound together through times of joy and times of grief. They shape us, support us, instill the values that guide us as individuals, and make possible all that we achieve.

So tomorrow, I'll be giving thanks for my family -- for all the wisdom, support, and love they have brought into my life.

But tomorrow is also a day to remember those who cannot sit down to break bread with those they love.

The soldier overseas holding down a lonely post and missing his kids. The sailor who left her home to serve a higher calling. The folks who must spend tomorrow apart from their families to work a second job, so they can keep food on the table or send a child to school.

We are grateful beyond words for the service and hard work of so many Americans who make our country great through their sacrifice. And this year, we know that far too many face a daily struggle that puts the comfort and security we all deserve painfully out of reach.

So when we gather tomorrow, let us also use the occasion to renew our commitment to building a more peaceful and prosperous future that every American family can enjoy.

It seems like a lifetime ago that a crowd met on a frigid February morning in Springfield, Illinois to set out on an improbable course to change our nation.

In the years since, Michelle and I have been blessed with the support and friendship of the millions of Americans who have come together to form this ongoing movement for change.

You have been there through victories and setbacks. You have given of yourselves beyond measure. You have enabled all that we have accomplished -- and you have had the courage to dream yet bigger dreams for what we can still achieve.

So in this season of thanks giving, I want to take a moment to express my gratitude to you, and my anticipation of the brighter future we are creating together.

With warmest wishes for a happy holiday season from my family to yours,

President Barack Obama

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Old 11-26-2009, 10:24 AM   #184
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What else would you expect from a Nobel Peace Prize winner? He doesn't want to offend anyone . . . except those who actually believe in God . . .
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:52 AM   #185
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How does this offend those who believe in god? I believe we're a pretty diverse group.

I for one am thankful that gw bush is no longer president. Perhaps if mccain had the courage to run as someone against gwb as an agent of change, many of you all would have more to be thankful for today.

Palin/Plumber 2012!

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What else would you expect from a Nobel Peace Prize winner? He doesn't want to offend anyone . . . except those who actually believe in God . . .

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Old 11-26-2009, 01:16 PM   #186
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I didn't even notice the lack of thanking god. I fail to do that every day. But then again, I also fail to thank Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

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Old 11-26-2009, 04:43 PM   #187
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Originally Posted by padthaiforlunch View Post
How does this offend those who believe in god?................
I do not find it offensive but I do find it is an indicator of the character and faith or lack of faith of the president we currently have in office who professes to be a Christian.
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Old 11-26-2009, 04:52 PM   #188
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I do not find it offensive but I do find it is an indicator of the character and faith or lack of faith of the president we currently have in office who professes to be a Christian.
Exactly (hypocrisy)----- He would never have been elected if he hadn't fooled so many people. It's not hard to fool people when ABC, NBC and CBS are in your hip pocket. The real problem is the media.
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:25 AM   #189
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Obama did not mention God in his message to the American armed forces but he speaks of God in his post to the world muslims. Do you think he is really a Christian.

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Old 11-27-2009, 07:54 AM   #190
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Thanksgiving started as a religious feast and a time to thank God for their blessings. Like other holidays, it has become secularized and (perhaps) more inclusive.

Reagan, Bush (both) & Clinton had no problem mentioning God in their proclamations.

PresBO has no problem acknowledging the Muslim world and their traditions but seem uneasy in referencing God. Wonder why?
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:24 AM   #191
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Obama did not mention God in his message to the American armed forces but he speaks of God in his post to the world muslims. Do you think he is really a Christian.
What is the real message here? What are you really saying? I know what it is... and so does anyone who is REALLY a follower of the Christian faith and Jesus Christ.

You bogus-Christian arch-con agents are a piece of work.

And you wonder why I'm not terrified of an arch-con Christian like Huckabee or Palin... or any of you (one I can think of in particular who carries a Glock next to his dick 24/7) coming to power?

Did you ever wonder how the Germans "pulled off" the holocaust... all the logistics of getting millions of people relocated, fed, clothed, gassed, burried, counted, and collecting and accounting for all of their homes and "stuff?"

After being in this venue I have no doubt that there are many thousands of you bogus-Christian agents on this board who would happily build the camps, drive the buses full of those you round up, work as guards, or would grow the food for the guards (or sell them insurance) and find some way to make a good living off of Camp Huckawitz (in Arkansas) and Camp Palin in Alaska.

Sometimes (actually often) you arch/neo-con bogus-Christian agents disgust me to the point of nausea. With the attitudes and beliefs you hold (as expressed in this thread alone) do you really think your Jesus is going to look at you favorably when you die? If there is what you call a hell, all you arch/neo-conservative bogus-Christians are all going there... and to my way of thinking, deserve to be there.

Of course you're ALL reading this and saying "Hey, this does not pertain to me... I'm a REAL Christian." Yeah... right!

Don't you arch/neo-con agents EVER get tired of living your world of hate, fear, and xenophobia? I suppose some do, but none of YOU around THIS venue, that's for sure. Indeed, this entire thread proves it.

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Old 11-27-2009, 10:36 AM   #192
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Al3: God, you are on today man. You never let up do you? Your ramblings sound so bitter and reverse racist. Jeez...
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Originally Posted by al3 View Post
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You bogus-Christian arch-con agents are a piece of work.

And you wonder why I'm not terrified of an arch-con Christian like Huckabee or Palin... or any of you (one I can think of in particular who carries a Glock next to his dick 24/7) coming to power?


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Old 11-27-2009, 01:06 PM   #194
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Did you ever wonder how the Germans "pulled off" the holocaust... all the logistics of getting millions of people relocated, fed, clothed, gassed, burried, counted, and collecting and accounting for all of their homes and "stuff?"l
It's eerily similar to how Obama got elected, don't you think?
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Old 11-27-2009, 01:21 PM   #195
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Where in the Constitution of the United States of America does it stipulate that the President must be a Christian, that the President must believe in the Bible, or even require that the President add the words "So help me God" to the oath of office? Please enlighten me.
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Old 11-27-2009, 03:24 PM   #197
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Where in the Constitution is the so-called separation of church and state?
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Originally Posted by al3 View Post
What is the real message here? What are you really saying?.......Al
Al you give me credit for being more devious and astute than I have ever considered myself to be. I am not an INTELLECTUAL perhaps like you are. My point was not an interpretation but only an observation. My interpretation and only point is that our president is an individual who claims Christian faith when it is to HIS advanatge but seems to be very uncomfortable with the same yet seems very comfortable with the MUSLIMS.
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Where in the Constitution of the United States of America does it stipulate that the President must be a Christian, that the President must believe in the Bible, or even require that the President add the words "So help me God" to the oath of office? Please enlighten me.
No where! But I want a leader who does not pretend he is one thing when he is something else. If you are confortable with a leader who is not to ever be trusted then more power to you. My point is not a religious point but one of moral character.
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If the American people want a Muslim president then they have the political right to elect one. I for one do not want a Muslim president and I do not think the American people would elect someone if they said I am Muslim or even if they said I am Muslim/Christian. For an individual to intentionally mislead people for their own gain is something that I was alway taught was wrong. My parents told me to "tell the truth even if it takes the hide". Some of you will not know what that old fashion down on the farm statement means but some of you will.

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Exactly (hypocrisy)----- He would never have been elected if he hadn't fooled so many people. It's not hard to fool people when ABC, NBC and CBS are in your hip pocket. The real problem is the media.
He was elected because he was the democrat on the ticket. The american people were sick of 8 years with Bush/Cheney.

Palin/Plumber 2012 ha ha good one padthai!
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I for one do not want a Muslim president
Why not?

(Come on neos (Christian, Jewish, Hindu, etc.) ... I'm opening the door for you to present your argument for religious discrimination, hatreds, dis-trusts, past-injustices, political-agenda etc. of those who are Muslim (or shall we say non-Christian,) ... a subject I know you always enjoy.)
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