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Originally Posted by bobson I wonder what the poverty rate was in 1965 compared to the poverty rate in 2008? I mean did his 'Great ...


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Old 01-23-2009, 06:04 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by bobson View Post
I wonder what the poverty rate was in 1965 compared to the poverty rate in 2008?

I mean did his 'Great Soceity' plans work?
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Old 01-23-2009, 06:16 PM   #22
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"I think Hitler was in favor of this idea, no?

(PS- it's "mandatory")"

Well, that was a nice try on your part for sure...

I also understood Hitler was fanatical about spelling...

I'm glad to see you follow in his footsteps or goosesteps, whatever...

Condoms and the pill are far less expensive to the taxpayer than paying for the support and upbringing of a unwanted, unsupportable child.

Nazi that all ya want...

In a pissy mood today moon?
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Old 01-23-2009, 06:25 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by LGilmore View Post
Condoms and the pill are far less expensive to the taxpayer than paying for the support and upbringing of a unwanted, unsupportable child. nazi that all ya want...
Oh, I couldn't agree with you more, but think about the practical application for just a second. Who's gonna decide? The government? You? Who's gonna enforce it? The County Agent? Sounds good on paper...

In a pissy mood today moon?
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Originally Posted by Ron Van D View Post
Historical Poverty Tables
Besides the large headache you can get from crunching these tables, I think you can take away that on average America was doing very well reducing poverty until the Great Society started to kick in. Then it went totally stagnant.

But then also poverty itself is a moving target since government is as free with re-defining poverty as it is free with re-defining the results of IQ tests.

Yes, Lg, the church (I assume you mean Catholic) has the same basic historic motive for promoting births as minority groups do today. Of course, you miss the fact that the Church wants babies born to solid and moral families. Not so with the other groups who are interested in breeding for solely political reasons.
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""Sounds good on paper..."

So did the other way...


Pot calling the kettle black?

no copper....
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Obama adviser: White males need not apply Robert Reich tells House panel stimulus package should emphasize 'social return' over worker skill.

Obama adviser: White males need not apply
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Originally Posted by xrac View Post
Some of the article titles on WND (linked to above) read like they're straight off The Onion.

For example: Soy is making kids 'gay'. Now there's some quality journalism.


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Originally Posted by Aaron_4SIGHT View Post
Some of the article titles on WND (linked to above) read like they're straight off The Onion.

For example: Soy is making kids 'gay'. Now there's some quality journalism.
The point is that this administration will use economic stimulus money intended to save our economy for social engineering.
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Old 01-24-2009, 01:15 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by LGilmore View Post
no, more like Jesus H ....

Geese is just a combination sound and expression due to the insane or is it innane **** getting posted.
Then it would be "Jeeze"; note the letter "J" that is in common.

Jeepers Creepers
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Tomato... tamato

I love you hooked on phonics guys....

As I said it is a sound or expression "I" make.
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Old 01-24-2009, 03:15 PM   #31
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I like this WND article title, Former Pastor Ted Haggard accused again!
More quality...........................Was he not the go to pastor for the ex. prez?
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Originally Posted by SunDevil View Post
Was he not the go to pastor for the ex. prez?

No, he was the head of an Evangelical Assoc. that lobbied in DC.


I understand what you are trying to do though. You are trying to show that there was some hypocrisy in what happened. The thing you have to realize is that people go to church because they know they are sinners, error prone and imperfect. If we always were sinless, there would be no reason to go to church. So what happened with Haggard, as bad as it was, is the epitome of why we need to go to church and need His love and forgiveness. Because we all fail.
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From what I have seen and read, Obama is neither Christian nor Muslim. He is a Liberal, which is a religion unto itself. There is no room (or need) for an omnipotent being when Man can be the measure of all things.
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Old 01-24-2009, 04:51 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by LouisianaRandy View Post
.....There is no room (or need) for an omnipotent being when Man can be the measure of all things.
He is a secular humanist who believes in amorality. His morality is dictated by the situation there are no absolutes (situational ethics).
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Old 01-24-2009, 04:56 PM   #35
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Geese, geese, where? Get me my gun and hunker down they are over the decoys!!
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Originally Posted by CPACINS View Post
So what happened with Haggard, as bad as it was, is the epitome of why we need to go to church and need His love and forgiveness.
That's certainly one way to look at it.

On the other hand, many believe that when you hold yourself out to be so holy, that's it's not unfair to expect you'll be held to a higher standard.

Some talk the talk, others walk the talk.

Rationalize it any way you want, but the truth is that like so many of the dollar-driven "mega preachers", the guy is a charlatan.

Where's Jimmy Swaggert?
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Originally Posted by bluemarlin08 View Post
geese, geese, where? Get me my gun and hunker down they are over the decoys!!

LOL...........Always talking about shooting birds.....

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[quote=moonlightandmargaritas;130929]That's certainly one way to look at it.

On the other hand, many believe that when you hold yourself out to be so holy, that's it's not unfair to expect you'll be held to a higher standard.

Some talk the talk, others walk the talk.

Rationalize it any way you want, but the truth is that like so many of the dollar-driven "mega preachers", the guy is a charlatan.
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Don't get me wrong. He was a complete hypocrite. I don't go to a mega church, never have. I've always had an issue with people who make their living off of preaching the Word. To keep paying thier mortgage, they need to show that they are living a righteous life at all times. So their public lives become a veneer. That part I will never understand.

My point is that people of Faith are just trying to become a better person, someone who asks for forgiveness when we mess up.

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Originally Posted by CPACINS View Post
No, he was the head of an Evangelical Assoc. that lobbied in DC.
Oops...looks like some new info about old Ted....

Pastor: New Life will recover from new allegations - USATODAY.com
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Originally Posted by moonlightandmargaritas View Post
Oops...looks like some new info about old Ted....

Pastor: New Life will recover from new allegations - USATODAY.com
They keep trying to get something on that guy but I think the evidence is all in the behind of the holder and probably would not stand up in court.
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