My 14 year old high school freshman is at another computer in the office. He just says "What! For what?!? Dad, they gave President Obama the Nobel Peace prize? For what??? How retarded! (I know, I know) They ought to call it the Nobel I Promise Prize. Can I have a years worth of my allowance if I promise to pick up the dog poop?" Yeah, that is going to happen, we have higher qualifying standards than the Nobel selection committee
Maybe I'll give a bounus for calling BS when he sees it.
The Nobel Prize spokesmodel there is a stand-up guy for answering the questions on the record, for better or worse. Similarly, Michael Moore, however repugnant, was a stand-up guy for appearing with Hannity. And, similarly again, Bertha Lewis, the head of Acorn, however repugnant was a stand-up guy for appearing with Chris Wallace and then again at the National Press Club to take it on the chin. You have to give them all points for stepping right up to the issues.
Now, having said, that if President Obama would appear on Fox on the Sunday programs along with his favorite networks and be a stand-up guy, I would be pleased to give him points for it. Right now, not so much.
I am okay with the Nobel thing but it is one heck of a curiosity to give a Nobel Peace Prize (because, in part as the Nobel guy said, it follows Nobel's wishes to "reduce standing armies") right as he plunges us deeper into Afg. Potentially people will come to argue that this means that fighting the "just war" is supportive of peace as well. Don't know. Have bigger fish to fry than to figure that out right now and so does the country. I suppose you could have given Lyndon Johnson the Nobel Peace Prize for his compassionate fight for Medicare, and then overlooked Viet Nam.
If the world wants to give the American President a Nobel Peace Prize, fine. It only enhances our prestige around the world. I dont like Obama badmouthing the US overseas but by the same token I would not want to bad mouth him before an international audience although reserve the right as always to squabble internally.
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You make me think Winter. With Obama having to make an either or decision in Afg. concerning troop levels and presense the prize committee may have wanted to bind him with the peace prize to lower the occupation force. Or maybe they just wanted publicity.
The Nobel Prize spokesmodel there is a stand-up guy for answering the questions on the record, for better or worse. Similarly, Michael Moore, however repugnant, was a stand-up guy for appearing with Hannity. And, similarly again, Bertha Lewis, the head of Acorn, however repugnant was a stand-up guy for appearing with Chris Wallace and then again at the National Press Club to take it on the chin. You have to give them all points for stepping right up to the issues.
Now, having said, that if President Obama would appear on Fox on the Sunday programs along with his favorite networks and be a stand-up guy, I would be pleased to give him points for it. Right now, not so much.
I am okay with the Nobel thing but it is one heck of a curiosity to give a Nobel Peace Prize (because, in part as the Nobel guy said, it follows Nobel's wishes to "reduce standing armies") right as he plunges us deeper into Afg. Potentially people will come to argue that this means that fighting the "just war" is supportive of peace as well. Don't know. Have bigger fish to fry than to figure that out right now and so does the country. I suppose you could have given Lyndon Johnson the Nobel Peace Prize for his compassionate fight for Medicare, and then overlooked Viet Nam.
If the world wants to give the American President a Nobel Peace Prize, fine. It only enhances our prestige around the world. I dont like Obama badmouthing the US overseas but by the same token I would not want to bad mouth him before an international audience although reserve the right as always to squabble internally.
So if Obama commits more troops, "he plunges us deeper into Afghanastan" like somehow its his fault? If he wanted to pull the troops out, than the right wingers would say he is soft on terror & does not support the troops. No matter what he does on anything, according to the right, he is wrong.
No matter what he does on anything, according to the right, he is wrong.
Let me know one thing he has done that was not wrong? I know there will be difficulty in finding something he has actually done, but give it a try. (Getting a dog does not count).
Rick
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Barak Obama and the CIA: Why does President Pantywaist hate America so badly?
If al-Qaeda, the Taliban and the rest of the Looney Tunes brigade want to kick America to death, they had better move in quickly and grab a piece of the action before Barack Obama finishes the job himself. Never in the history of the United States has a president worked so actively against the interests of his own people - not even Jimmy Carter.
Obama's problem is that he does not know who the enemy is. To him, the enemy does not squat in caves in Waziristan, clutching automatic weapons and reciting the more militant verses from the Koran: instead, it sits around at tea parties in Kentucky quoting from the US Constitution. Obama is not at war with terrorists, but with his Republican fellow citizens. He has never abandoned the campaign trail.
That is why he opened Pandora's Box by publishing the Justice Department's legal opinions on waterboarding and other hardline interrogation techniques. He cynically subordinated the national interest to his partisan desire to embarrass the Republicans. Then he had to rush to Langley , Virginia to try to reassure a demoralized CIA that had just discovered the President of the United States was an even more formidable foe than al-Qaeda.
"Don't be discouraged by what's happened the last few weeks,"he told intelligence officers. Is he kidding? Thanks to him, al-Qaeda knows the private interrogation techniques available to the US intelligence agencies and can train its operatives to withstand them - or would do so, if they had not already been outlawed.
So, next time a senior al-Qaeda hood is captured, all the CIA can do is ask him nicely if he would care to reveal when a major population centre is due to be hit by a terror spectacular, or which American city is about to be irradiated by a dirty bomb. Your view of this situation will be dictated by one simple criterion: whether or not you watched the people jumping from the twin towers.
President Pantywaist's recent world tour, cozying up to all the bad guys, excited the ambitions of America enemies.Here, they realized, is a sucker they can really take to the cleaners.
His only enemies are fellowAmericans...
Which prompts the question:Why does President Pantywaist hate America so badly?
2 weeks in office and that qualifies for the Nobel Peace Prize? If you have not seen the SNL skit about his accomplishments to date (or lack of them) check it out, it's very funny.
The President has garnered two additional awards: the Heisman Trophy because he watched college football last weekend, and, the Cy Young because he threw out the first pitch in Chicago. His accomplishments are growing...
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Obama wins the Heisman Trophy after watching a college football game !!!
The President learned about the honor while travelling aboard Air Force One to accept an Academy Award for his appearances in post-election campaign ads. He said: "I will accept the Heisman trophy in the name of all the minority players who are being denied the opportunity to play college football simply because of their grades, lack of ability or incarceration".
The White House also announced today that Obama has reluctantly been persuaded by his staff and the ACLU to present himself with the Presidential Medal Of Freedom for the outstanding deeds he hopes to accomplish sometime in the future. A decision on his Congressional Medal of Honor has been temporarily sidetracked because of minor technical issues concerning eligibility.
In the meantime, decisions on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as the economy, have been delayed indefinitely due to the president's busy schedule of public appearances.
Let me know one thing he has done that was not wrong? I know there will be difficulty in finding something he has actually done, but give it a try. (Getting a dog does not count).
Rick
I think you have Obama & Bush mixed up. Bush did not do anything but screw up the country in 8 years. Obama has been on the job 9 months. He is trying to fix the mess that W left us.
I think you have Obama & Bush mixed up. Bush did not do anything but screw up the country in 8 years. Obama has been on the job 9 months. He is trying to fix the mess that W left us.
Except that he owns the White House, and both Houses of Congress and can't get a health care bill through- in fact has never drafted or introduced one. How is that George Bush's fault? The dems all told us that the republicans didnt matter one way of the other. They had the votes - period.
Yup, I know they will get some kind of lame bill through, and will have some kind of lame success with the stimulus, and some kind of lame withdrawal from Iraq, and some kind of either lame build-up or lame withdrawal from Afg, and a lame closure of Gitmo, and a lame committment from the Europeans on Afg, and a lame dialogue with Iran while they nuke up, and a lame fulfillment of commitments to gays. Other than that the messiah is still doing nice speeches and getting nice awards. Maybe he can send Joe out to beam from ear to ear again about how the stimulus exceeded his wildest expectations even though he said we needed it to keep unemployment from reaching 8%. Of course Old Joe doesnt have to take that out on the road for re-election next year.
Also, of course, Afg is Obama's War now. Good luck getting another year out of hanging that on Bush. It is going to be Obama's Presidency some time very soon. Maybe that is a good thing if one is a dem. Maybe not. Depends on where you are as a dem. If you are a democratic congressman up for re-election next year then you have plenty of zippy things to say about Obama but you are also scared stiff. Obama has problems with the senior vote, independents, and the left wing of his base now. Not good. He needed/needs those elements to get elected but that support changed and continues to change. Being right or wrong about conservatives is neither here not there now. He is vulnerable from within. Dont' agree?. Fine. The dems running for Congress know just what I am talking about.
Of course planning to pull the plug on Grandma hasnt helped either.
Except that he owns the White House, and both Houses of Congress and can't get a health care bill through- in fact has never drafted or introduced one. How is that George Bush's fault? The dems all told us that the republicans didnt matter one way of the other. They had the votes - period.
Yup, I know they will get some kind of lame bill through, and will have some kind of lame success with the stimulus, and some kind of lame withdrawal from Iraq, and some kind of either lame build-up or lame withdrawal from Afg, and a lame closure of Gitmo, and a lame committment from the Europeans on Afg, and a lame dialogue with Iran while they nuke up, and a lame fulfillment of commitments to gays. Other than that the messiah is still doing nice speeches and getting nice awards. Maybe he can send Joe out to beam from ear to ear again about how the stimulus exceeded his wildest expectations even though he said we needed it to keep unemployment from reaching 8%. Of course Old Joe doesnt have to take that out on the road for re-election next year.
Also, of course, Afg is Obama's War now. Good luck getting another year out of hanging that on Bush. It is going to be Obama's Presidency some time very soon. Maybe that is a good thing if one is a dem. Maybe not. Depends on where you are as a dem. If you are a democratic congressman up for re-election next year then you have plenty of zippy things to say about Obama but you are also scared stiff. Obama has problems with the senior vote, independents, and the left wing of his base now. Not good. He needed/needs those elements to get elected but that support changed and continues to change. Being right or wrong about conservatives is neither here not there now. He is vulnerable from within. Dont' agree?. Fine. The dems running for Congress know just what I am talking about.
Of course planning to pull the plug on Grandma hasnt helped either.
Winter, there is 257 dems and 178 republicans, which means 218 is needed for a majority. There are 64 democrats who have said they will not vote on a bill unless it has a public plan. Than there is some of the blue dog democrats who won't vote yes if the bill includes a public option. There is no republicans who want national health care. Meanwhile every 30 seconds an American has filed for medical bankruptcy. I guess all that money the insurance companies are spending, is working.
A couple of weeks ago, the USA Today reported that the stimulus saved several hundred thousand teachers' jobs.
You are right about the Europeans, for the most part, they want the U.S. to do almost all of the fighting.
Obama has never wanted to pull the plug on Grandma.
I think you have Obama & Bush mixed up. Bush did not do anything but screw up the country in 8 years. Obama has been on the job 9 months. He is trying to fix the mess that W left us.
Please name the top 3 messes you say were caused by W.
That were "caused" by W.
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Meanwhile every 30 seconds an American has filed for medical bankruptcy. I guess all that money the insurance companies are spending, is working.
A couple of weeks ago, the USA Today reported that the stimulus saved several hundred thousand teachers' jobs.
You are right about the Europeans, for the most part, they want the U.S. to do almost all of the fighting.
Obama has never wanted to pull the plug on Grandma.
You assume along with many that any opposition to a government takeover of health care equates to a lack of recognition of the problem at hand. What is missing for you, is that some of us live in states where the government implemented many of the reforms that are being talked about nationwide now and then we watched our system collapse, leaving people worse off. Similarly, as California demonstrates if something is not affordable or workable in the long run then it helps no one when iit collapses. Calfiornia was a leader in providing benefits at one point. They are now a leader in talking about cutting back on those services. Even if we disagree, dont exclude for a minute the possibility that the cure could be worse than the disease because that is a very real possibility.
In regard to the USA report, and the teachers jobs, the stimulus package just plugged the holes in state budgets and preserved lots and lots of public sector jobs. No one doubts that. There is no "stimulus" there though. They dont create any economic growth and when the stimulus runs out you have to either have another stimulus or it all falls back on to the state deficits again. It merely forestalls the day when states need to balance their budgets unless we are talking about permanently nationalizing state budgets which in fact some people are.
In regard to Obama not wanting to pull the plug on grandma, his policies have that effect so he must take responbility for it. He proposes to cut Medicare by a half trillion and talks about needing to cut costs, and oh by the way, highlights that most of the cost is in the final year of life. I am okay letting him work that out with the Blue Hair Brigade. No need for me to get in the middle of that tussle. They can take care of themselves. If their fears have no basis, then he is all set. President Obama is very vocal in giving example of how lack of certain policies lead to the untimely death of many so it is equally fair for him to be criticized thusly in regard to seniors. And if it is not fair, take it up with the Blue Hair Brigade.
Pulling the plug on Grandma. Change you can believe in.
(London) -- The Professional Cricketers' Association has announced its NatWest PCA Awards for 2009, and Marcus Trescothick of Somerset was named NatWest PCA Player of the Year as the top Cricket Player in England.
The White House immediately expressed its disappointment that Barack Obama did not win the award, and blamed his loss on Fox News.
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