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Old 08-04-2008, 06:54 PM   #1
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Anyone have experience with direct mail from Premier Annuity Prospects, the Peter LePage company? LePage claims he is a huge annuity salesman.
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:51 PM   #2
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I do not know, but they are probably as good as any mail-generated annuity lead. The bottom line about annuity or any other insurance leads, is that the leads are only as good as the agent. A persistent, ethical and credible agent will make more out those leads.

If any operation claims "exclusive," you have to think about that, because it can be misleading. The lead may be exclusive to that company, but hardly exclusive to that customer

From what I have read about Peter LePage, and if I were in your shoes, I might just try them. He seems to have a good system.

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Thanks for the input. appreciate it.
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Haven't heard of these guys
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Did you use them? I tried them, got 5 "appointments" out of 10, this has been since May! My experience has been awful with them!
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:35 PM   #6
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I used them ! They were not good. I've been using annuity lead source and got 4 sales out of 12 appt. Never have i gotten a sale before from a company before ! Knock on wood and i hope it gets me more business. At least i made alot more than i paid.










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[quote=neilman;101695]I used them ! They were not good. I've been using annuity lead source and got 4 sales out of 12 appt. Never have i gotten a sale before from a company before ! Knock on wood and i hope it gets me more business. At least i made alot more than i paid.

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Old 10-02-2008, 03:16 PM   #8
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I paid 1025 for 20 appts. I had some that didn't work out. Some that were grear.
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Originally Posted by neilman View Post
I've been using annuity lead source and got 4 sales out of 12 appt. Never have i gotten a sale before from a company before ! Knock on wood and i hope it gets me more business. At least i made alot more than i paid.
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Annuity Lead Source is TERRIBLE!!! Check out the past posts from several members who have been scammed. I'm one of them.

Their telemarketers say the agent will only be dropping off literature. And, when you try to cancel, they keep half your money. Threatening a claim in small-claims court was the only way my friend and I were able to recoup part of our investment.
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Originally Posted by BrokersAllianceAnnuities View Post
The bottom line about annuity or any other insurance leads, is that the leads are only as good as the agent..
Not necessarily. No list will work unless you are a good agent but even the best agents treat some lead sources as crap and others as being better. That is because some are crap and some are better.

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Originally Posted by Winter View Post
Not necessarily. No list will work unless you are a good agent but even the best agents treat some lead sources as crap and others as being better. That is because some are crap and some are better.

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Probably so, but I just have never had experience with buying my own leads. I do what patch does, basically. I buy lists of people who fit a certain demographic and area and send out my own letters. They cost about $1.65 each, but it is much more legit, professional and credible and I get a decent return.
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Originally Posted by Winter View Post
Not necessarily. No list will work unless you are a good agent but even the best agents treat some lead sources as crap and others as being better. That is because some are crap and some are better.

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I agree. I'm currently working on an annuity campaign involving direct mail. Almost 98% of the leads I contacted do not have stocks, CDs, IRAs or 401k. Since I can't sell them, does this make me a bad agent? Or, did I not do a good job of marketing? My marketing was based on the recommendations of a direct mail firm specializing in annuities. I'll tweak the demographics and try again.
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:31 PM   #13
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I think the previous two posts are right. If you want to be a player in the Annuity Marketplace. You'll have to get creative and invest sweat equity/intellectual capital into your business. Find a way to find a rich seam of business and harvest.

Those systems rarely work. If they did, they would exponentially grow to the point of total market saturation.
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:07 PM   #14
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After I spoke to a salesperson I googled the company and it brought me to this forum. I was impressed with the plethora of information on this site. I've tried mailing lists and bought phone lists from other companies in the past, the problem is it requires too much of my time and energy. I went ahead with their $1600 program and so far so good. I gave them my schedule last week and had 2 appointments this week. The 1st was a dud and I thought I was just another victim, the 2nd, yesterday was great, really great. I spoke to both father and son and have follow ups with both next week. Father was looking to take money from an IRA and put it into an annuity, son was looking for more life insurance. So far I am happy, and I will let everyone know how things proceed. The benefit far exceeds the cost, and a lead/appointment is only as good as the advisor.
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Originally Posted by BrokersAllianceAnnuities View Post
Probably so, but I just have never had experience with buying my own leads. I do what patch does, basically. I buy lists of people who fit a certain demographic and area and send out my own letters. They cost about $1.65 each, but it is much more legit, professional and credible and I get a decent return.
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What kind of return are you getting on your own lead generation?
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Originally Posted by mickeyma View Post
Almost 98% of the leads I contacted do not have stocks, CDs, IRAs or 401k. Since I can't sell them, does this make me a bad agent? Or, did I not do a good job of marketing? My marketing was based on the recommendations of a direct mail firm specializing in annuities. I'll tweak the demographics and try again.
You need a mailing company that can mail based not only on age, but on investable assets. Most companies call this IPA or PIA, I can't remember. I usually specify a minimum of $100k above and beyond home value and purported income, neither of which are especially relevant to what we are looking for. Someone can have a large and expensive home, but it can be mortgaged to the hilt. And income as a barometer is notoriously inaccurate since people routinely exaggerate what they make and that is the source usually of the info.

The last two mailing I made specified an IPA of $100k and I did not run into a single person that did not have at least that as a bare minimum that was readily available to invest.
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Here's an interesting fact I just came across an FMO advertising them ,that they'd pay for some of there sevices with production and they happened to be in the same city(Fall River MA) do you think it could be the same company???
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Many mailing companies are related in one way or another (directly, brother-in-law, etc.) to an FMO.

Some have exclusive deals and work with only one or select FMOs. I would suspect insiders at work there as well.

One thing I've noticed over the years is that FMO people are ALWAYS looking for ways to turn over another buck. If they aren't trying to get 14% from a company, they are trying to find other things to get into. I think a business suit, a gallon of caffein, a lot of money coming in the door, and a huge ego leads to wanting every penny from every related field.
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If I ever start an FMO, I'll do it from the beaches of Hawaii. You'll find me in flip-flops and shorts. No more suits!

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Many mailing companies are related in one way or another (directly, brother-in-law, etc.) to an FMO.

Some have exclusive deals and work with only one or select FMOs. I would suspect insiders at work there as well.

One thing I've noticed over the years is that FMO people are ALWAYS looking for ways to turn over another buck. If they aren't trying to get 14% from a company, they are trying to find other things to get into. I think a business suit, a gallon of caffein, a lot of money coming in the door, and a huge ego leads to wanting every penny from every related field.

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Originally Posted by mickeyma View Post
Anyone have experience with direct mail from Premier Annuity Prospects, the Peter LePage company? LePage claims he is a huge annuity salesman.
I have used them in the past. LePage is quite a salesman and has made a great deal of money selling leads to agents, but his system is no different than anyone elses. I would not do business with him again, because he is a crude and arrogant S.O.B. Best to do it yourself with a good direct-mail letter....
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