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Old 04-03-2008, 01:16 PM   #1
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Geez...just what we need. Read on, but don't hesitate to barf. I did...four times. Prospect Zone leads are questionable at best.

Great News! We recently rolled out a brand new lead program and I wanted to make sure you were one of the first to know. It is called our Live Transfer Program. Have you ever had issues with getting a prospect on the phone or sharing the same lead with multiple agents? I am sure many of you answered, Yes. Our live transfer lead will eliminate these problems and will put you directly in contact with a consumer who is interested in purchasing health insurance.

Here is how our new program works:

·A prospect passes across one of our websites and requests to be contacted by a health insurance agent in their area
·We will then contact the prospect, verify that they have an interest in purchasing health insurance, and then transfer them to the number of your choice

·When the lead comes into your line you will have two options
oPress 1 – be connected immediately with an interested prospect
oPress 2 – do not answer the call
·You will also have the option of setting the date and times as to when you would like to be contacted (8-noon, noon – 3, 3-6, etc.).

These leads will be statewide and are $30 each.

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Old 04-03-2008, 01:26 PM   #2
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A: Would it be possible to see "one of our websites."
B: Would it be possible to see which advertising methods they use to drive people to their sites.

I think if you asked the answers would be:

A: No
B: No

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Old 04-03-2008, 01:48 PM   #3
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Sounds to me like they would be using leads from agents websites, that come from outside of their licensed area.

I'm not sure how that works, but I'm sure it comes from their affliate agreement with the agents who have signed up as one.

If you think about it, they have access to 15000 agents internet traffic.

Kinda makes me wonder what they do with that information.

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Old 04-03-2008, 01:51 PM   #4
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I can only base my observation on my own PZ leads, but for whatever reason, the average income of my leads are significantly lower than any other lead company.
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Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD View Post
I can only base my observation on my own PZ leads, but for whatever reason, the average income of my leads are significantly lower than any other lead company.
That statement covers all you need to know.
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Ed, last time I checked, this is no longer April 1.
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Old 04-03-2008, 04:56 PM   #7
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As long as they are INTERNET generated not RADIO ads like other live transfer services it might be worth the $30 - hard to say until you try. I find out odd they are not taking "bids" unless I read this wrong and bids start at $30.

This is one of those deals until you try it - there is no way to measure, but I understand the apprehensions, they are legitimate concerns.
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Yes - affiliates gone wild! And I can get a special bonus just for filling out the form!!!!

Why do these companies allow garbage advertising like this. Great, get a lead from HTQ:

"Health insurance? I thought you were calling about my vacation."

Everyone - this is why should NOT buy leads from ANY company that uses affiliates. If anyone is looking for REAL lead sources just contact me. There are several good guys out there who actually give a crap about their clients. And YOU are their clients - not affiliates.

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Originally Posted by healthagent View Post
Yes - affiliates gone wild! And I can get a special bonus just for filling out the form!!!!

Why do these companies allow garbage advertising like this. Great, get a lead from HTQ:

"Health insurance? I thought you were calling about my vacation."

Everyone - this is why should NOT buy leads from ANY company that uses affiliates. If anyone is looking for REAL lead sources just contact me. There are several good guys out there who actually give a crap about their clients. And YOU are their clients - not affiliates.
Beleive it or not, almost 95% of all Lead Companies use affliates, they have to to produce the volume, Depends on their Buisness Module, but HTQ is the Worst, especially with affliates. They have no deep organic search terms like InsureMe and Netquote. but I have to agree, HTQ leads are some of the Worst Leads on the Market. I know one company that does very well with Afiliate leads and they convert, Once again, its how they monitor the affliate. https://www.mostchoice.com/insurance_google.cfm touts they use no affliates, They dont, but their leads are still some of the worst on the Market,

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Trust me - I know. Some of the most "interesting" affiliate advertising I've seen is HTQ. But you are indeed correct, most use affilates. Not all though, and we're finding the gems.

It's sad to watch what's happened to InsureMe. It's like watching your son on the honor roll end up in jail for dealing crack.

And not all affiliates are bad - obviously. Just like anything else you have the good guys and the criminals. The problem is the lead companies are inviting the criminals when they receive payment for simply directing traffic to landing pages.
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Originally Posted by healthagent View Post
Trust me - I know. Some of the most "interesting" affiliate advertising I've seen is HTQ. But you are indeed correct, most use affilates. Not all though, and we're finding the gems.

It's sad to watch what's happened to InsureMe. It's like watching your son on the honor roll end up in jail for dealing crack.

And not all affiliates are bad - obviously. Just like anything else you have the good guys and the criminals. The problem is the lead companies are inviting the criminals when they receive payment for simply directing traffic to landing pages.
Yes you are correct, got thier email spam two days in a row offering $100.00 in Free Leads if you sign up in April. Sounds like Netquote, No Company with quality leads, gives away anything. STAY AWAY from HTQ is the Message!

Yes, and the Reps at InsureMe, really think they are something. They got too big and have shown record profits the last 3 years, Quality leads, but Way oversold sometimes up to 8 Agents, and then we all know what happens next.
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I've found most of the affiliate ads and landing pages. Results to be posted relatively soon.
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While we are on the subject...I use Netquote, but every now and then, an applicant only wants dental coverage. I will ask them why they requested a health quote and they tell me they actually googled "dental insurance" or something like that.

I told NetQuote and their response was:

Our health leads will contain dental and vision only applicants.
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Ridiculous that they do that.

Oh..and John...post your "gems" publicly and I and others will do the same. I have 27 years worth of data and there are some other vets that have some great "gems." Then we can comment on all of the picks and perhaps point out some facts that people are not aware of.

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It'll all be posted. We're using these lead sources currently and tracking true results which can't be ascertained with just 10 or 20 leads. However, 50's the magic number. If you can't do something with 50 leads it ain't gonna happen.

Definite patterns emerging. One pattern is easy; some sources almost no one answers, even if you call seconds after you get the leads. Other sources as high at 30% answer.

Some sources you have to "work" the leads - chase them down - emails, phone calls, etc...to pull the real ones out of the crap. Others there's minimal crap - people ACTUALLY looking for health insurance and you can close same day easily - no pushing or "hard closing" involved.

I will give everyone some advice - if you get 20 leads, call all of them quickly an only 10% pick up the phone - bail. It's junk.

If you find yourself calling on Monday, then twice Tuesday, then Thursday, 2, 3, 5 emails then bail - it's junk.
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"One pattern is easy; some sources almost no one answers, even if you call seconds after you get the leads"

That sounds familiar and it always bugs me.
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One source (to be named later) 18 leads, called all 18 within 10 seconds - zero picked up the phone.
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Judging by the amount of "hotmail" and "Yahoo" addresses you have to wonder, how many of these leads are generated by people using a computer at their public library.
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Originally Posted by healthagent View Post
One source (to be named later) 18 leads, called all 18 within 10 seconds - zero picked up the phone.
You don't suppose that some of these "affiliates" might have their "friends" generate leads, do you?

Naw, would never happen...
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One person might be lying - but not when you talk to 10, 15, 20, who all have the same story that over 10 agents have been calling. Insane.

Also, agents are being highly rude with some of these people. Some prospects are telling me things like "if you're not ready to buy then don't waste my time" or "stay off the internet since you're costing us a lot of money."

I spoke with very nice lady yesterday - spoke to an agent and after the pitch she wanted to think about it. His response was "don't waste my time."

Yes....agents are indeed saying things like this to prospects.

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