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Old 06-18-2007, 06:21 PM   #21
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:34 PM   #22
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:50 PM   #23
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:54 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by john_petrowski View Post
Back when I was on leads I spent around a week going over quotes with my clients, they she dropped off the planet. I finally got in touch with her and she told me she signed up with the plan I recommended but signed up right through the company's website "so she could save money since I'm on commission." I informed her that the rate was exactly the same. She disagreed saying "actually it was lower" and hung up on me.

That's enough to piss off the Pope!!!
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:14 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by policy doctor View Post
If you're emotionally upset, leave the phone work alone today. something in your voice will convey negativity....I would definitely not handle calls unless someone calls in to buy TODAY.
Well, I think that was good advice. I WAS bummed out so I decided to take a few hours off. But after a while I realized what the rest of you have said... you just have to shake it off... and move on.

And move on, I did. While I lost the small 2-person group early this morning, later on I was FINALLY able to close a 30-person group I've been working on for a month now... and the best part is that is it NOT a health group (at 7%) but a Colonial workplace supplement group... at around 25%... depending on what the participation will be during the enrollment... and I have a top enroller doing the case (he gets 15%... but not out of my commission. Work-sups pay well... if you get good participation.) I don't enroll my own groups because I don't have the product knowledge... and a really experienced enroller will put more on the books than I can. Some folks can sell, some can enroll. We all need to do what we like best.)

So getting this case closed made me feel a LOT better.

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Old 06-18-2007, 10:20 PM   #26
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My dad always says, "there is no consolation, like money"
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:45 PM   #27
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Mind you I work the senior market...but...

I work with an agent who tells her potential clients this...

"No matter who you buy from the premium is the same. The difference is if you enroll through me, you get me as your agent. If you go online, you get an 800 number as your agent. So, basically, for the same premium, you get a live human to talk to, rather then a recording."

That has worked for me as well. Stress that the premium is the same up front, and for no additional cost, you get an actual agent.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:17 PM   #28
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Best advice in the world....... and i provide it to u free....... ALL BUYERS ARE LIERS. now armed with that advice, crank up your sales preasure, play hardball and froce their hand at doing something.... NOW!!!! the number of clients u piss off with that policy will not be that big AND
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Best advice in the world....... and i provide it to u free....... ALL BUYERS ARE LIERS. now armed with that advice, crank up your sales preasure, play hardball, dont trust the client and froce their hand at doing something.... NOW!!!! the number of clients u piss off with that policy will not be that big AND it will keep u sharp and aggressive. there is no victory in 2nd place and also, no food on the table. i look at each client as a war, the mother of all battles, a jehad.... and with that approch at least i feel like i gave it my best to win even if someone else gets the deal.

My nuke will always be bigger than theirs... well... unless they are ehealth and they cheat
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:48 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by Peelerinsurance.com View Post
best advice in the world....... and i provide it to u free....... ALL BUYERS ARE LIERS.
That has not been my experience at all.

People tend to live up to the expectations that you have of them.

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Old 06-19-2007, 04:54 PM   #31
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Well... good for u.... i live in the reality world and the reality is the client does whatever they must to get what the feel is the best deal.... an agent and their feelings mean nothing to these clients. they would soon pee on u as look at u. thats is just the hard cold facts that 23 years in in-home and insurance sales has taught me....
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:24 PM   #32
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My feeling is that you had a prospective client of another agent. This happens sometimes, I usually ask if they have another agent before I do much with them. If they say yes, then I ask why didn't they contact that agent. Usually I get the "haven't heard from him/her in years" stuff but bottom line is about 75% or more of the time when it comes down to the crunch, they will call that old agent. Then you'll get the "sorry, we really appreciate your help, but we've decided to remain with our agent".

Sometimes they are looking at you to show them something that really may not exist. Once they realize that the other agent can get them the same thing, they more often than not will call on the old agent even if you've put in hours of work.

My suggestion, and it is just how I do it, it if I ask and they say they have another agent, I suggest they call that agent to help them and tell them I don't feel comfortable working behind the back of another agent. Basically, see you later and have a nice life.

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Originally Posted by Dave020 View Post
My feeling is that you had a prospective client of another agent. This happens sometimes, I usually ask if they have another agent before I do much with them. If they say yes, then I ask why didn't they contact that agent. Usually I get the "haven't heard from him/her in years" stuff but bottom line is about 75% or more of the time when it comes down to the crunch, they will call that old agent. Then you'll get the "sorry, we really appreciate your help, but we've decided to remain with our agent".

Sometimes they are looking at you to show them something that really may not exist. Once they realize that the other agent can get them the same thing, they more often than not will call on the old agent even if you've put in hours of work.

My suggestion, and it is just how I do it, it if I ask and they say they have another agent, I suggest they call that agent to help them and tell them I don't feel comfortable working behind the back of another agent. Basically, see you later and have a nice life.

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Unless of course you can get an agent of record change I imagine?
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Here's a classic from last December:

Lady calls me and starts asking very specific benefit questions on the BC HIPAA Share 1500. After about 1 min of this, I ask her if she is looking at buying a HIPAA plan.

She says, now get this, no I already bought it from another agent but have some questions about these specific benefits.

I said, you should be asking your agent those questions, not me since he is getting paid to answer them.

She says, well I would but he is on vacation right now.

I said, well, you'll just have to wait until he gets back to get these answers since it is his job to answer these questions. Have a nice day and hung up on her.

I could have spent 30 mins on a toll call to me answering some detailed questions about a plan already sold by another agent.

I have learned, if they have another agent, see ya!

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Originally Posted by salpro22 View Post
Unless of course you can get an agent of record change I imagine?
That would definitely be an acid test. I think it is hard to get one up front without doing the work first and then they may balk at it when it's time to sign on the dotted line.
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In a way, I live to take clients from other agents. Now I agree, in most cases it aint happening but if I get a call from someone and they have an agent, I ask when was the last time your agent visited you? If its been more then a year I start qualifying hard, "If I can deliver a product and service that is better for you, will you switch?". Now I don't do much Health so I haven't really had that chance yet on that side of the business, but I would have to give it a shot with the understanding I am likely not going to get the business, but my competitive nature just eggs me on.
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Al3 - Thicken skin my man...everyweek, I call between 25-40 exclusive telemarketed leads, and every week I submit 4-7 applications...and every week I have 3-4 CLOWNS that I let go of... Just write something very mean, crude, derigitory, and evil on the lead, then burn the lead, and throw it away... It dosent do anything to anybody, but it sure makes you feel good....

Also, you can take that lead, and input it into netquote, and let the guy get called 100 times by other agents including the boiler rooms for 4 weeks. Once again, dosent help you get the deal... but you get the last laugh...and your mental well being is the most important daily factor to your success.. Cheers.......
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Also, you can take that lead, and input it into netquote, and let the guy get called 100 times by other agents including the boiler rooms for 4 weeks. Once again, dosent help you get the deal... but you get the last laugh...and your mental well being is the most important daily factor to your success.. Cheers.......
Wow, that is way cold! I love it
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Or take their email and register for gay porn? I kid, I kid.
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http://www.answer123.com/durbin.pdf

I know I got screwed, but I don't want to cause her any problems. Nothing good can come out of that. Bad karma.

Above is the link to the letter I sent her. I enclosed a couple of biz cards and that's that... case closed.

As President Bartlet would say, "What's next?"

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