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Of course...I'm just kidding about the "meaningless and "waste of time" comments. SEO is an art I am slowly learning about. Directories, Social Sites, Comments ...
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Of course...I'm just kidding about the "meaningless and "waste of time" comments. SEO is an art I am slowly learning about. Directories, Social Sites, Comments on Blogs and Forums....what a chore!
Ok...here's my question.
Assuming you have a website, and we'll use the state of Kentucky for no particular reason.
What are the two or three search terms that you want to focus on the most? That is, I guess, the most used?
Kentucky Health Insurance, I assume would be the top pick.
But what is next?
Kentucky Health Insurance Quotes? Kentucky Health Insurance? Kentucky Health Quote?
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Finding a "good" company is difficult. Oh...they're out there, but there's a lot of huffing and puffing as well.
There are great sources of information from this Forum as well as some SEO Forums. I check the SEO Forums EVERY night. I have downloaded some free software that has been very helpful.
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Originally Posted by dgoldenz
On the same topic, what is a rough estimate of cost to have the work done for you by a good company?
I do all my own SEO.
When I looked into having it done for me, the costs ran from $150 a month to $500 plus a month. I've even seen some charging in excess of $10,000 a month for international clients.
The problem with paying for it, it you have to trust the person doing the SEO.
All Off-Page SEO is done behind the scenes, and may not even produce visible results for months.
That's also how many people get scammed from these companies. They just keep telling you it takes time and to be patient. Before you know it, you've paid them $1000 or more with no results.
They have what's called "Black Hat Tactics", and "White Hat Tactics".
Black Hat may produce quick results, but it is done at the expense of long term traffic, and will get your site banned, or black listed from many of today's search engines.
That is a tactic used by some in the PPC business, and the Adsense Business. They produce a site, and hope it makes a few hundred to a few thousand dollars, before it gets discovered.
White Hat takes longer to produce results, but is played by the "rules" of search engine optimization. White Hat is a continual process, and not an event.
It starts with good On-Page SEO, and continues with an Off-Page strategy. There is no one single magic bullet.
Some of the more popular White Hat Tactic are: Revelant Content, Blogs, Link Directories, Article Directories, and Forum Postings.
Many use Blogs both posting on them, and hosting one on their site. Some use an Article directory in place of a blog. The idea here is a relevant constant flow of new content.
If you host a blog, or post on a blog, make sure you use some keyword rich content when you do post. If you have an insurance blog, and post nothing but hunting and fishing stories, eventually the search engines will begin to crawl your blog less and less. Also, if you don't have the ability to add a backlink to your website on posts you make on somebodys blog, then your just having fun, as you will not gain any search engine traction from those posts.
Link Directories are used to provide informational resources for your user. They are mainly used to link back and forth to relevant content sites, creating a web of information flow.
If you don't have a back links page on your site, that is the first, and probably the most important thing you could do to increase your search engine exposure. Most companies will not link to your web site, if they can't get a back link from yours. Just makes sense.
Finally, what we are all doing here, posting on forums.
We should all keep in mind, that whatever we post on a blog or forum, is free game to be read by all, and in many cases will leave a legacy for years to come. I'm not saying you need to be professional at all times, but need to keep in mind the consequences of your words.
I have probably deleted more posts on this forum then I have posted. Thought better of hitting the post button after I have read what I was going to say.
The key to posting on forums, is not so much what you say, but the ability to post a backlink to your website in the process. If you have 500 posts on a forum, you now will have 500 potential back links to your website from those postings.
Sam has been kind enough to allow us to our signature line to place a link to our websites without using a "no-follow tag," which instructs the search engines "not" to follow that link. Thanks Sam
So, your first step towards SEO dominance, should begin with you adding your website link to your signature line of this forum, if you haven't already done so.
Then when you build your backlinks page, make sure you add a backlink to this forum in return.
------------------------------------ Michigan Health Insurance Is my main site. Check out the links directory, more than 9875 helpful links and growing.
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Originally Posted by dmiller90
Your site shows exactly 251 links pointing from other websites, your other links dont matter
Yeah I know. Not bad for a site I just finished building 5 days ago.
I have a plan, and I'm working my plan.
I've spent the past five months building my web presence. I have 47 different websites in various stages of development, and ultimately want 200 plus sites when I'm done, if I decide to stop there. I have fun building them.
My plan probably won't be completed until two to three years from now. I understand it's a process. Continuous, and consistent.
While Out-Bound links may not rank as high as In-Bound links, in it's entirety, they all add up. As you know, it's a little bit of everything, and not any one thing that helps develop good SEO.
What I have built is the sub-structure, and the foundation. The actual above ground construction has just started.
I have two websites that are already number one, and three others that are in the top ten on Google for natural search results.
My link directory that you discount, has only been live for 5 days now. Already I have been sent 18 visitors from Google for natural search results as a direct result of that directory.
Now imagine that times 200 websites, times three years from now, times 100,000 links from now, and you will begin to see the potential.
I haven't even started my campaign for backlinks yet, but with the 7500 websites that I'm already linked to, and another 3500 in the process of being added to my directory, I will have a pool of 11,000 potential link partners to begin with. Sites I've already linked to when I request a backlink from them.
That link directory by the way, will have well over 100,000 links it in within two years from now, and my article directory should have hundreds, if not more, relevant articles as well. That's what I use in place of a blog. It's the same thing, you just get other people to furnish you with relevant content, in exchange for a link.
Looking for some backlinks? Please feel free to visit my link directory, and add your website, it's free.
In time, when I'm done building all my sites, you should have more backlinks just from my sites, than most any of your competitors.
All I ask, is that if you have a website that has backlinks on it, that you add my site to it, and as I build my other sites and add your links to them, that you add those sites to yours as well.
If all of this sounds deep, and complex, it's not really. I will add that it's time consuming though.
I have software that creates my websites, software that crawls the web looking for link partners automatically, checks for backlinks, and even sends auto e-mails looking for link partners. I also use software that submits to link directories, article directories, and search engines.
Total investment? I would guess it to be about $1,500, and hundreds of hours of my time.
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Keep in mind this link directory has only been live for 5 days now, but here are some search engine results from yesterday.
This is from Google search results, and these people actually clicked on my link, and entered my site as a result these searches. This is from natural search results, not Pay Per Clicks.
Somebody typed the phrase.
drug tier status
My site was number 16 on google.
quotes about fetal alcohol spectrum disorders
My site was number three on google.
endomrtriosis
Which is actually a typo error in my directory, but somebody typed in the same mis-spelling on google. (corrected)
My site was ranked number one on google.
interstitial cystitis denied life insurance
My site was ranked number 31 on Google.
That is the power of placing your website link in your signature line.
My link directory would not have been discovered or crawled as quickly if it weren't for this forum.
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Originally Posted by The New Guy
Keep in mind this link directory has only been live for 5 days now, but here are some search engine results from yesterday.
This is from Google search results, and these people actually clicked on my link, and entered my site as a result these searches. This is from natural search results, not Pay Per Clicks.
Somebody typed the phrase.
drug tier status
My site was number 16 on google.
quotes about fetal alcohol spectrum disorders
My site was number three on google.
endomrtriosis
Which is actually a typo error in my directory, but somebody typed in the same mis-spelling on google. (corrected)
My site was ranked number one on google.
interstitial cystitis denied life insurance
My site was ranked number 31 on Google.
That is the power of placing your website link in your signature line.
My link directory would not have been discovered or crawled as quickly if it weren't for this forum.
And you are wanting to Drive Traffic to What? Medical Conditions that would decline you for insurance?(Long-Tail) to convert to Health Leads? Your kidding right? I could probably get a #1 ranking for Brown Paper Walmart Sack too, But I doubt they would request a Health quote.
Also justt because you post on this forum 5000 times, and add your signature link, Google will not just point 5000 links back to your site. If it was the easy, Every Agent on here would have a website and be driving traffic.
Last edited by dmiller90 : 08-22-2008 at 05:42 PM.
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Originally Posted by dmiller90
And you are wanting to Drive Traffic to What? Medical Conditions that would decline you for insurance?(Long-Tail) to convert to Health Leads? Your kidding right? I could probably get a #1 ranking for Brown Paper Walmart Sack too, But I doubt they would request a Health quote.
Also justt because you post on this forum 5000 times, and add your signature link, Google will not just point 5000 links back to your site. If it was the easy, Every Agent on here would have a website and be driving traffic.
I'm not trying to be rude, but the more you post about the so-called negative aspects of my SEO efforts, the more I believe the less you may know about SEO.
I'm not driving traffic to my link directory, just the opposite, I'm receiving fresh organic google traffic because of the link directory.
And if you believe people with medical conditions can't receive insurance, don't deserve insurance, or don't need some other form of insurance than just health insurance, then is it you that has the jaded view of our industry.
I believe when a person finds interest or information in your site, they are more likely to not only bookmark your site, but pass it along to others as well.
And the more click traffic your site receives from organic google search results, the more relevant your site becomes to google's search results.
I may be way off base, and took your comments the wrong way, and I apologize in advance if that's the case.
However, I don't recall many particular posts from you with information, or suggestions on how we could better use our SEO efforts, merely posts telling us how we are wasting our time with the efforts that we do.
At least I'm trying to point people in the proper direction.
Now, for your comment about posting 5000 posts on here and not getting any backlinks from it.
It was you who pointed out earlier in this thread, (deleted somehow), that my website only had 251 links pointing to it.
Well then, I challenge you to tell me who is linking to me, and post the information on this thread.
With your great powers of SEO knowledge that shouldn't be a problem for you to find the information.
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Originally Posted by The New Guy
I know where, and how to locate my links, from about 150 different sources.
What I asked of you was to tell me who is linking to me.
Still waiting.
Thier is only One, Accurate, Search Engine that shows true links, so thiers not a 150 sources, maybe inaccurate sources, that really dont matter. Done arguing, but you have got a bunch of homework to do, on SEO.
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