It is interesting that the longest serving member of the Senate is a Democrat and a former member of the KKK (nickname Sheets Byrd). Democrats everywhere are understandably proud.
Byrd is also the king of earmarks, having managed to milk the federal government (ie. the rest of the country) for huge amounts of Federal tax dollars spent on behalf of the folks in West Virginia and to the benefit of Robert Byrd whose name appears on most roads and bridges going through West Virginia. I suspect, when he dies, the state will be renamed "Byrdland".
They need to go back home and let someone else have a chance before they become too arrogant, powerful, and greedy. A good part of the greed angle comes form having to constantly be in campaign mode -like getting donations from special interests, for example.
Please forgive me, I did not realize that David Duke was a U.S. senator. What state did he represent and how long did he serve?
You are comparing the longest serving member of the U.S. Senate, a Democrat who is a former member of the KKK, to an individual who is a member of the party? Do you think anyone reading your point of view considers that a balanced view? Let me be much more specific. You don't see Republicans honoring Duke or what he stands for. Why do you honor Byrd?
Robert, no forgiveness needed Brother, David Duke was never a US Senator, even though he tried.
No Robert I am comparing a Senator to a Republican Presidential Candidate. The leader of the KKK ran for President as a Republican, KKK members are now Republicans. Yes I do believe people reading my POV as balanced. Yes KKK members who are Republicans honor and pleadge allegience to his organization.
I do not Honor Senator Byrd. Im from New Jersey, we are much more educated up here and do not elect KKK members.
Now my turn Robert, do you really expect anyone here to believe the Modern Racists are not now under the Republican Banner?
Robert, no forgiveness needed Brother, David Duke was never a US Senator, even though he tried.
No Robert I am comparing a Senator to a Republican Presidential Candidate. The leader of the KKK ran for President as a Republican, KKK members are now Republicans. Yes I do believe people reading my POV as balanced. Yes KKK members who are Republicans honor and pleadge allegience to his organization.
I do not Honor Senator Byrd. Im from New Jersey, we are much more educated up here and do not elect KKK members.
Now my turn Robert, do you really expect anyone here to believe the Modern Racists are not now under the Republican Banner?
A nut job running for President is nothing new. On the other hand, running, getting elected, and setting records for how long you are in the job, says a lot about the party and its constituents.
The biggest racists in this country are in the Democratic Party. Here are three examples: Sharpton, Jackson and Farrakhan
A nut job running for President is nothing new. On the other hand, running, getting elected, and setting records for how long you are in the job, says a lot about the party and its constituents.
The biggest racists in this country are in the Democratic Party. Here are three examples: Sharpton, Jackson and Farrakhan
Do you like having those guys on your team?
Listen, listen, listen...
They can't be racists because they are of African American decent. Only white males can be racists.
Or some other such nonsense the libs will spout off.
I know David Duke, sir, and you are no David Duke.
Seriously, it is amazing how far back into history some libs will go to dig up something embarrassing. Duke as been a non-entity for God knows how many years. Every time he ran for something the sensible people in my home state turned him down soundly.
We even have blacks voting against the healthcare bill from Alabama,” Jackson said at a reception Wednesday night. “You can’t vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man.”
do you really expect anyone here to believe the Modern Racists are not now under the Republican Banner?
Winter, check out a book called "The Soprano State", you'd be beyond surprised how corrupted mys state is. Do have the best education system in America though!!!
Do you really expect anyone here to believe the Modern Racists are not now under the Republican Banner?
Winter, check out a book called "The Soprano State", you'd be beyond surprised how corrupted mys state is. Do have the best education system in America though!!!
Let's begin by defining racism.
Do you believe Sharpton, Jackson and Farakhan are racists?
No Robert let's begin by you answering my question.
You did not answer my question:
Do you really expect anyone here to believe the Modern Racists are not now under the Republican Banner?
You are proving yourself to be a person who holds people to standards he does not himself meet, quite the crude.
But to further the discussion, Farakhan is without a doubt a racist. Sharpton and Jackson not quite so much but yes.
Look man Richard Nixon was a Racist, Jeff Seesions, Trent Lott had to step down for Racist Remarks, the McCain Palin rallies were full of Racists and Racist props, the list can go on and on. The point here is how can you hypocritically call out Democrats as wanting to be like a Racist when your own Party is teaming with them?
But to further the discussion, Farakhan is without a doubt a racist. Sharpton and Jackson not quite so much but yes.
Look man Richard Nixon was a Racist, Jeff Seesions, Trent Lott had to step down for Racist Remarks, the McCain Palin rallies were full of Racists and Racist props, the list can go on and on. The point here is how can you hypocritically call out Democrats as wanting to be like a Racist when your own Party is teaming with them?
Your showing your hand.
Sharpton and Jackson not quite so much a racist but Trent Lott is a racist - because he made racist remarks?
Time to compare and contrast. Precisely what were the racist remarks by Trent Lott?
And what the heck are we doing talking about Richard Nixon as evidence there are racists in the Republican Party? You have to go so far off the reservation to prove you point it is really NOT funny.
Do you believe Sharpton, Jackson and Farakhan are racists?
That is a yes or no question.
Have you folks noticed that everyone here gives the appearance of being white?
Have you folks noticed that in this section of the forum which is a bit rough and tumble, no one has come forward and said "Hey wait a minute, I'm black [Hispanic, Chinese, etc.] and I believe yada, yada..."
I'm sure there are a few more liberals here than just myself... but they could be afraid to "out" themselves for the fear of taking the kind of abuse that I'm given by the arch-conservatives here.
I'm wondering if maybe that is the reason no one here wants to post a viewpoint from the so-called black community?
Or maybe there really are no non-whites in this section... or in this venue?
In this entire forum I only know one guy who is non-white.
In my city I only know two black people who sell life/health insurance. I went to a CE-day held by NAHU last week. Out of the 250 agents who attended, there were no minorities.
I know a couple of women of Chinese and Vietnamese heritage who are 7/63 licensed and work with LPL (one is a client of mine.)
So before you all go off and blame the Republicans of being the party of ONLY arch-conservative W.Va, KY, Tenn, and deep Southern racists (which it is but they are a minority of all those who identify themselves as being members of the party of Lincoln) maybe we need to look at our own ranks and our own industry? (Note the question mark.)
What are the politics and social beliefs of most agents in this country... xenophobic... homophobic? Well, if my experience is accurate, I'd say that they while some are neo-moderate-conservative, the vast majority of agents are EXACTLY as you all are on this board... way-right, to far-right in their social and political views.
I've met a few neo-conservative minority people who are fiscally conservative but somewhat socially liberal, but I've never met one arch-conservative minority... someone who harbors extreme hatred to all things government, advocates carry-concealed laws, seeks to repeal all laws that "force" integration in schools and public accommodations as well as voting rights, and who wants this country to return to the mores of Alabama of 1958.
Why do all of you very conservative young men and women from the South think you grew up in an integrated society? Do you think it just happened? Do you believe that all of a sudden the "good people" of Alabama and Georgia woke up one day and decided that "Blacks are citizens and we should give them the same rights we have. They should go to the same schools our kids go to and be allowed to sit anywhere they want in a movie house."
Sorry, my little neo-cons. It happened because an entire generation of liberals (like me) stood up to the arch-conservatives (like those on this board who carry guns to WalMart) and FIRST worked their ass off to get the laws changed at the state and federal level. Then we stood up to the arch-conservatives (like those on this board who carry guns to church) and told them that "We're sick and tired of your crap and we're going to use the laws we now have and enforce them on you, even if we have to send federal troops or marshals"... which we did.
I take a lot of heat here for being a liberal in a rats-nest of neo-cons and arch-cons. And I'll continue to take it because I've lived long enough to know that history is on my side and not on yours... that we are NOT going to ever again elect "pocket-Glock" arch-conservatives to power in any state or even to any Federal office. The majority of Americans have moved beyond that (and the majority of Americans don't live in KY and W.VA.)
I've read your postings here, I've heard your virulent diatribes against a black president... the kinds of things you would never have posted against Bush even though many (most?) of you disliked his policies as much (or so you say.)
It is not important what party has a so-called racist member (Shaprton, Byrd, etc.), what is important is that YOU are liberal (a word you all hate) on the side of equal protection of the laws for all citizens.
I rather doubt most of you are. So before you start bitching about who is what in any political party, maybe you should see who "you" are in your own industry and community.
I know who I am, and as much as you rail and vent against liberals like me who have worked for a lifetime to make this country into a better society, I know that even with the problems we still have, this country is a much better place to live than it was in 1958 when I was eleven years old.
We mods and libs have won and you arch/neo-cons have lost. You can throw your Limbaughs, Becks, Palin's and Wilson's against us, but we are not going to let you undo sixty years of progressive legislation and take us back to a society where greed, selfishness, xenophobia, homophobia ruled... where there was no safety net for health care (Medicare, Medicaid) or for hungry children (AFDC.) Even with all the costs and abuses of the programs the government(s) run, I'd rather see them continue than to have you neo-cons dismantle them one by one and bring us back to your society of Social Darwinism.
There is one and only one thing we have in common. As much as you hate and revile me and what I stand for, I'm just as proud to not be like most of you.
It is heresy on this board and in this venue to say something like that, to dare disagree with the arch-cons who post here, but I can take it from guys like them. I have my entire life... and I will continue to do so.
Libs chastise the republicans and conservatives on matters of race and gender but it is apparent that it is now the Dems who exude a plantation mentality.
The apparent but unspoken truth is that the libs will actively work to undermine any black, hispanic or woman who is not a democrat. If you are conservative but are black or a woman or a black woman or a black man who is an entrpreneur or small business owner you are considered to have gone off the Plantation and therefore are a threat to the Plantation which consists of that vast jungle of entitlement and dependency-building programs administered by a vast jungle of libs who are equally dependent on them.
Although it is fair enough to criticize people such as Condi and Palin on a wide range of issues-make no mistake about it- the Dems feel that they own minorities and women and that they need to stay on the Plantation and not be going off with conservatives or Republicans. If Hispanics want to come to this country in droves the dems like that but if any of them want to come and start a small business and join the Hispanic Entrpreneurs and Small Business Association, then they are not welcome because that means they are not on the Plantation and are at risk of becoming conservative or liberal but a free-thinker.
Thus you have phony libs who mouith the words about supporting diversity and empowerment but will actively try to cut the balls or ovs off any black or a woman who tries to go off the reservation. It is well established that California sprouts these phony libs profusely like tumbleweed. Right at the head of the pack is Barbara Boxer, the duplicitous tart who is the Senator from California. I refer thee to the video in this link as a clear example of her unsuccessfully trying to enforce the lib Plantation mentality.
------------------------------------ Keep your eye on Hillary Clinton, the Shrieking Shrew, in 2011. Watch for the small signs of movement. I know Obama will.
And what the heck are we doing talking about Richard Nixon as evidence there are racists in the Republican Party? You have to go so far off the reservation to prove you point it is really NOT funny
Im sorry Robert Richard Nixon was 4 years older that Sen Byrd, thats obviously out of context. Its not like Nixon was the VP when Byrd first got elected to congress or anything. Or that Nixon was a sitting president while Byrd served in the Senate. How could I compare the two they are totally from different places and times.
And you still have not answered my question! Its a simple yes or no.
Robert, I can not have discussion with someone who only addresses his own points. Please answer my question or no longer address me.
Senator Robert Byrd, Democrat
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