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Shooting at Fort Hood army base kills at least 12 - Posted

pdate 5:30: ABC News has identified the Ft. Hood shooter.
The suspected gunman was identified by ABC News as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

The shooter was killed and two other suspects, who are also soldiers, have been apprehended, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone said.
Update 5:25: President Barack Obama made a statement on the Fort Hood shooting. The transcript:
"My immediate thoughts and prayers are with the wounded and with the families of the fallen and with those who live and serve at Fort Hood. These are men and women who have made the selfless and courageous decision to risk and at times give their lives to protect the rest of us on a daily basis.

It’s difficult enough when we lose these brave Americans in battles overseas. It is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on American soil.
I’ve spoken to secretary Gates, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, and I will continue to receive a constant stream of updates as new information comes in. We are working with the Pentagon, the FBI, the department of homeland security all to ensure that Fort Hood is secure and we will continue to support the community with the full resources of the federal government. In the meantime, I would ask all Americans to keep the men and women of Fort Hood in your thoughts and prayers. We will make sure that we get answers to every single question about this horrible incident and I want all of you to know that as commander
In chief, there’s no greater honour but also no greater responsibility for me than to make sure that the extraordinary men and women in uniform are properly cared for and that their safety and security when they’re at home is provided for.”

Update 5:20: The Reuters story has been updated with the latest news.

Update 5:15: More from General Bob Cone's press conference:
We’ve had a terrible tragedy here at Fort Hood today. The situation is ongoing although I think we have positive news that we’re very close to a resolution. At approximately 13:30 hours today, a shooter entered what we call a soldier readiness facility where soldiers who are preparing to deploy go for last minute medical checkups and dental treatment, etc. A shooter opened fire and due to the quick response of the police forces was killed.

At this time the numbers that we’re looking at are 12 dead and 31 wounded and they are dispersed among the local hospitals here in the central Texas area. The extent of injuries varies significantly and again, we’re getting great cooperation from the central Texas medical facillities. The shooter was killed. He was a soldier. We since then have apprehended two additional soldiers that are suspects. I would go into the point that there were eyewitness accounts that there may have been more than one shooter. They tracked the suspected individuals to an adjacent facility and they were apprehended. They are soldiers, but again they are suspects at this time and we’re looking into that."

Update 5:05: General Bob Cone, the commanding officer at Ft. Hood calls the shooting a "terrible tragedy. It's stunning."
President Barack Obama made a statement regarding the shooting. "It is horrifying that these men and women should come under fire at an American base on U.S. soil."

Update 4:52 p.m.: According to a U.S. Army statement the death toll at the Fort Hood shooting has risen to 12 dead and 31 wounded.
The gunman was among the dead and according to a press conference the victims were all shot at the soldier readiness facility, a series of buildings used to ready soldiers for deployment.

Eyewitness accounts say there may have been more than one shooter and authorities have apprehended two suspects. The gunman and the two suspects are all soldiers. One of the 12 victims was a Fort Hood police officer.

Update: 4:50 p.m.: Texas senator Kay Bailey Hutchison has issued a statement: "I am shocked and saddened by today's outburst of violence at Fort Hood that has cost seven of our brave service members their lives and has gravely injured others.
"My heart goes out to their loved ones."
Update: 4:40 p.m.: A memo from Scott & White Memorial hospital, one of the hospitals taking wounded:
Scott & White Memorial Hospital is receiving victims from Fort Hood. No specifics are known regarding the incident resulting in the shooting. At this time, the victims coming to Scott & White are suffering from gun shot wounds. We have nothing else to report at this time.

There are also reports that shots have been fired near a residential area for soldiers.

Update 4:25 p.m.: There are reports that the death toll at the Fort Hood shooting may have risen to nine. A general has also reported that the number of wounded may rise to as high as 30 people.
Last year there was another shooting where two soldiers lost their lives.
There was also complaints from wounded soldiers that they were being mistreated. From CNN:
During the visit, Mullen met privately with about 30 wounded troops at Fort Hood, Texas. "The wounded expressed concern that, at Fort Hood, they were stigmatized and treated as lesser Soldiers for being wounded, ill, or injured," the memo said.

Update 4:20 p.m.: You can also follow a Twitter list of local media reporting on the Fort Hood shooting.
Update 4:15 p.m.: The second suspect has reportedly been captured.

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A shooting has killed at least seven people and wounded at least 20 at Fort Hood, Texas, one of the largest army bases in the United States.
According to reports there are two possibly three suspects involved in the shooting. They are believed to have been wearing army uniforms and one of them may have been carrying a high-powered rifle.
Read the Reuters story
Local news is reporting that one suspect may have been captured. A SWAT team is believed to have one of the shooters holed up and may have exchanged fire with police, wounding a number of officers.

The Austin Statesman is livetweeting developments of the story on @fthoodshooting.
The Statesman is also blogging on the shooting.

NBC affiliate KCEN is broadcasting, The Associated Press is reporting on the events:
Army spokesman Lt. Col. Nathan Banks says the first shooting began at about 1:30 p.m. at a personnel and medical processing office. The facility, called a Soldier Rating and Processing center, handles administrative details for soldiers.
Banks says two shooters were apparently involved. There was no immediate word on who they were, nor on identities of the dead.
Banks says the second incident took place at a theater on the sprawling base.
Another Army official identified that site as the Howze Theater
CNN gives a bit of background on the army base.
Fort Hood is the Army's largest U.S. post, with about 40,000 troops. It is home to the Army's 1st Cavalry Division and elements of the 4th Infantry Division, as well as the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment and the 13th Corps Support Command. It is located near Killeen, Texas.
In June, Fort Hood's commander, Lt. Gen. Rick Lynch, told CNN that he was trying to ease the kind of stresses soldiers face. He has pushed for soldiers working a day schedule to return home for dinner by 6 p.m., and required his personal authorization for anyone working weekends. At the time, two soldiers stationed there had committed suicide in 2009 -- a rate well below those of other posts.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:37 PM   #2
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CNN is now reporting that the shooter, a Major in the US Army who is a psychiatrist and MD, was not killed but seriously wounded.

Officials: Fort Hood shootings suspect alive; 12 dead - CNN.com
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Let me guess. Political correctness means that we are not profiling for military jobs:

Fort Hood triggerman: Muslim, shrink, officer

Maybe we went overboard locking Japanese Americans up during World War II, but we sure as heck didn't send Japanese American soldier to fight the Japanese, we sent them to the Europeon theatre.

And on a side note, I don't think that there are American Christians who think that the wars in the Middle East are religious wars, but I am guessing there are plenty of American Muslims who do.
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Maybe we went overboard locking Japanese Americans up during World War II,
Are you saying we should send all American Muslim citizens to detention camps?

It sounds like it to me... not that I'm surprised.
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Are you saying we should send all American Muslim citizens to detention camps?

It sounds like it to me... not that I'm surprised.
I'm saying that it makes no sense to send American Muslims who are in the military into the two wars we are fighting in the Middle East. We would be better to post them in a non-Muslim environment.

Perhaps you should review this video:

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Originally Posted by Robert Barney View Post
I'm saying that it makes no sense to send American Muslims who are in the military into the two wars we are fighting in the Middle East. We would be better to post them in a non-Muslim environment.


Unlike the situation with Japan, in AFG and Iraq both our allies and enemies are of the same religion/ehtnicity/whatever. The Iraqi army is comprised of muslims and so is the Afghan army so it is not as simple as a U.S against Muslims. If a soldier wishes to side with muslims who wish to kill americans or to side with muslims who want to overthrow the governments that are allied with the U.S versus siding with the ones that are on our side then he simply is unable to serve and should be court-martialed rather than assigned to another region.

In addition it should be noted that one of the great tragedies of the Japanese situation in the US is that the Japanese soldiers who served did so valiantly and brought honor to themselves and their country all while being kicked on the homefront. If they had a history of grousing around and telling other soldiers that we should not be fighting the Emperor and telling people that more Japanese people should rise up against Americans then the they would be more akin to this clown at Fort Hood, acknowledging that information is early and speculative at this point.

By the end of next week the libs will have framed this guy as a victim of American racial taunts and that we as a society are responsible. Maybe this clown just needed to see a psychiatrist..........errrr.......nevermind.
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It blows me away with this horrible tragedy. I may be the only one to say this, but it will come out in the end, that this Known Devoted Radical Muslim did this, and carried this out, due to his Complete Disaproval of the Middle East Situation and his upcoming deployment.

When the Final Story comes out, Guaranteed he gave off red flags, prior to this happening. It is being reported that he was on the FBI's radar for some time. The individual is claiming harrassment by fellow soldiers for being a Muslim.

Majors in the Army dont get harrassed, thats just crazy!! They have now located emails from him supporting suicide bombers!!!

I honestly dont think Americans understand how much these individuals hate the Western World, and will kill others in the name of thier GOD!!

This individual was part of our Team. But let me tell all of you the reality of the mindset of this radical belief, I have seen it first hand, and it sickens me.

He was being deployed to the Middle East, and made it known of his disapproval. He finally Snapped!!!

He Shouted Allahu Akbar before he opened fire!!!!!

I am sure most of you have never heard this first hand, I have, and I learned real quick, dont even let them open thier MOUTH!!

He is now in Critical Condition, But he will Face the Military and I would assume in the end he will be put to DEATH.


This is a picture of Major Malik Nadal Hasan, the morning before he carried out his Rampage



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This is a picture of Major Malik Nadal Hasan, the morning before he carried out his Rampage


Yup, you can tell that it is morning before work because he is still in his pajamas.
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It blows me away with this horrible tragedy. I may be the only one to say this, but it will come out in the end, that this Known Devoted Radical Muslim did this, and carried this out, due to his Complete Disaproval of the Middle East Situation and his upcoming deployment.

When the Final Story comes out, Guaranteed he gave off red flags, prior to this happening. It is being reported that he was on the FBI's radar for some time. The individual is claiming harrassment by fellow soldiers for being a Muslim.

Majors in the Army dont get harrassed, thats just crazy!! They have now located emails from him supporting suicide bombers!!!

I honestly dont think Americans understand how much these individuals hate the Western World, and will kill others in the name of thier GOD!!

This individual was part of our Team. But let me tell all of you the reality of the mindset of this radical belief, I have seen it first hand, and it sickens me.

He was being deployed to the Middle East, and made it known of his disapproval. He finally Snapped!!!

He Shouted Allahu Akbar before he opened fire!!!!!

I am sure most of you have never heard this first hand, I have, and I learned real quick, dont even let them open thier MOUTH!!

He is now in Critical Condition, But he will Face the Military and I would assume in the end he will be put to DEATH.


This is a picture of Major Malik Nadal Hasan, the morning before he carried out his Rampage


More bullsh*t,

Can you believe this clown?
"They call me bad names ... I shoot them..."
WTF?
This guy was almost 40 and couldn't deal with some 20 somethings bust'n his chops about being muslim?
Boo freak'n hoo.
Psychiatry. Pfffffffffffff. What's a matter? Get over your fear of death and then nothing can hurt you. Then you can focus on kicking balls with the time you have. END OF TREATMENT.
This guy was all over the internet running his mouth prior to this. They should have pulled his membership long ago.
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This guy has to be pissed that he's not screwing his 72 virgins like planned.
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This guy has to be pissed that he's not screwing his 72 virgins like planned.
Also didnt realize they were going to be MEN, (F*$% Allah and everyone that serves this Evil)
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While this is tragic it's important not to attach this event to the Muslim population - who stands for peace. There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. This is just one douchebag.
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While this is tragic it's important not to attach this event to the Muslim population - who stands for peace. There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. This is just one douchebag.
Yeah Healthagent keep defending them. You will be surprised one day when they come to take you out do think that because you were sympathetic to their cause they will spare your non muslim life.


I am more glad that he is paralyzed than when I thought he was already dead. His fate is sealed weather he gets the death penalty or not he will be in prison with soldiers that will take care of him and he will be unable to defend himself, like the people he killed.
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Muslims stand for peace?


This could be possible.....

But why don't they stop their own brothers and sisters from touting this garbage?
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For the same reason you don't stop Christian extremists from killing abortion doctors?
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For the same reason you don't stop Christian extremists from killing abortion doctors?
What is that reason? I almost forgot that you are comparing apples to an orange.
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What is that reason? I almost forgot that you are comparing apples to an orange.

I see it as similar.
If you consider yourself Christian, no one says "Hey, you need to tell your Christian brothers and sisters to not shoot at doctors who perform abortions ..."
Look at Iran. The vast majority are concerned that their kids can't go to school without getting killed and what affect that will have on their future while the f*ck'n Taliban causes this to happen. It is not Islam, or Christianity,etc. It is radicalism.
Look, I've got as much of a hard on for these *ssholes as anyone, but 99.99% of muslims hate this kind of thing as much or more than we do because they get dragged into it.
Gulity by distant association as it were.
And let say something else. You will rarely find a better American than the one who was not born so. When you have to fight for something it means A LOT more to you.

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Stereotyping is really easy - with a Polish last name I of course had a lot of fun in school and I wonder how much business I've lost since 2003 by clients who didn't want a Polish insurance agent. A few years after my brother become a lawyer he changed his last name to Michaels since he had a lot of trouble getting clients.
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Stereotyping is really easy - with a Polish last name I of course had a lot of fun in school and I wonder how much business I've lost since 2003 by clients who didn't want a Polish insurance agent. A few years after my brother become a lawyer he changed his last name to Michaels since he had a lot of trouble getting clients.

Yeah, and unlike Al, you never wussed one time when I called you Polish sausage.
Kudos bra.

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While this is tragic it's important not to attach this event to the Muslim population - who stands for peace. There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. This is just one douchebag.

The majority of the Muslims are good people who are innocently led to believe that Islam is a religion of God. These people are seeing the truth for the first time and are leaving Islam in big numbers.

Those who still remain Muslims after reading these verses, have no humanity or conscience. They must be filled with shame and shunned.

They are the terrorists or their supporters and the enemies of mankind.

They are in minority but still they number millions. Once the decent Muslims leave Islam, the terrorists will lose their moral base of support.

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