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Old 06-10-2009, 03:44 PM   #1
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I know very little about Single Premium Life products can someone recommend some good SPUL and SPWL products that you like and tell me a little about why you like that particular product over others?

Thanks any info to get me started would help greatly. Thank you!


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Old 06-10-2009, 03:59 PM   #2
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Personally, I like Assurity's SPWL product. It's classified as a modified endowment contract, so the increases in cash values are tax-deferred until withdrawn. Borrowing against the policy is taxable, of course, and there's a 10 percent IRS penalty for early withdrawal (before age 59 1/2).

So long as the client is over 59 1/2, though, that early withdrawal penalty doesn't apply. With Assurity, you can also increase your coverage in the first six months without going through underwriting again.

It's also got an automatic LTC rider on it at no extra cost, which is cool. It pays up to 50% of the net amount of the insurance or 36 payments of 2% of the net amount.
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Nick gotta ask, whats with the pic of the maple syrup woman?
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Old 06-10-2009, 05:12 PM   #4
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Click Here to listen to an audio tape my father Greg Rosenthal made on S.P.

Here is the audio tape my father made talking about the following story.

This is something that my father Greg Rosenthal taught me and I wanted to share it with you. I hope it helps you like it did for me. My father wrote this story.

Several years ago, I lived in a small residential neighborhood. I would frequently say "hello" to my neighbor across the fence, Mr. Johnson, but I did not really know him, and we seldom spoke to each other.
One sunny summer afternoon, I was watering my flower garden and the neighbor was doing the same thing, so he struck up a conversation, asking me how I was doing. I replied "just fine, and you?" And we just chatted a while.
I had noticed a nice small fishing boat with an outboard motor had been sitting in his backyard all summer and he had not taken it out to go fishing, so I asked him about it.
He replied "yes, you're right; I haven't been fishing all summer. Fact is, we can not afford to take the boat out and go fishing. The gas for the boat, the truck's gas to haul it to the lake, the bait and all the other expenses of taking the boat fishing, is more than we can afford on a fixed retirement income and social security". I really felt sorry for him, and then he added,”you know what is really a shame? My wife and I have two $10,000 CDs in the bank, a total of $20,000 just sitting there, that we want to leave to our two sons, when we die, and we live like we're poor and I can not afford to go fishing." I agreed with him and said "yea, man that is a shame, having that money and can't spend it". We chatted a while longer about our gardens and fishing and then we both returned to our homes.
When I got home, I got to thinking about my neighbor's situation with the two CDs, and I recalled what I had just learned the week before about SINGLE PREMIUM WHOLE LIFE SALES.

I grabbed my simplified rate book, and ran to his house and knocked on his door.
Upon opening the door, I said, "excuse me Mr Johnson, I hate to bother or interrupt you, but I got to thinking about what you just told me. Did I correctly understand you to say that you have two $10,000 CDs in the bank, to leave two sons $10,000 each at your death?" He answered "yes, that's right". I responded, "Mr Johnson, what about the inheritance taxes they will have to pay on it? I'm not tax expert, but won't they really just get about $7,000 each after taxes?" He replied again in the affirmative.
I then said "Mr Johnson, if you will tell me your age, how old are you, and if you smoke, I might can help you leave them both more than $10,000, or at least $10,000 each that is not taxable, and have money left over to go fishing in your boat"? He asked, "how you going to do that?" And I answered, "have you ever heard of Single Premium Life Insurance Policy? Are you aware that Life Insurance proceeds are non-taxable?" And he told me that he was 66 years old, did not smoke, and was in fair health, with a little hypertension controlled with medication, so I looked it up in my simplified rate book. I was very happy to tell him, "Mr Johnson, for a single payment of $11,850, my insurance company will pay each son exactly $10,000 each, a total of $20,000 Death Benefit from a Life Policy, at your death".
That was not only the first SINGLE PREMIUM that I ever wrote, it was also the first commission check I ever got for over $1,000. I had a 10% contract, and was actually paid $1,185 within two weeks of having that conversation with Mr. Johnson.
I learned to start looking for prospects or clients with CDs in the bank, intending to leave that money to a family member. They are excellent prospects for Single Premium Life Sales.

Greg Rosenthal


Look for the parents or grandparents that have a cd that think they are going to leave the money tax free to their love ones, and show them how this is better for them. They get to leave more money to their love ones and free up some money for their needs also. I have had clients go from leaving someone $10,000 in a bank cd that they family member would pay taxes on, to having leaving $17,000 tax free.

I use American Amicable S.P. Back in the days, I used Americo's S.P. Product.

Assurity's Life has a good one also.
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Originally Posted by emptyeternity View Post
Nick gotta ask, whats with the pic of the maple syrup woman?
That's just some lady that The Most Awesome Hat On The Planet hired to carry it around.
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Thanks so much everyone. I appreciate the tips and story as well.
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I agree, American Amicable and Assurity are both good. Standard Life also has a good one. Great commission on the Standard also.
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Aviva has a very well-priced SPUL for most ages. Sun Life, John Hancock, and West Coast Life usually do pretty well too.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:59 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by souldeux View Post
Personally, I like Assurity's SPWL product. It's classified as a modified endowment contract, so the increases in cash values are tax-deferred until withdrawn. Borrowing against the policy is taxable, of course, and there's a 10 percent IRS penalty for early withdrawal (before age 59 1/2).

So long as the client is over 59 1/2, though, that early withdrawal penalty doesn't apply. With Assurity, you can also increase your coverage in the first six months without going through underwriting again.

It's also got an automatic LTC rider on it at no extra cost, which is cool. It pays up to 50% of the net amount of the insurance or 36 payments of 2% of the net amount.

Great post, Nick. Thank you for sharing.
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I might not use Standard Life of Indiana at the moment (if we are talking about the same company) - they are having financial difficulties - especially with their annuity portfolio.

I also like products that require more underwriting when it comes to single premium life. That way your clients will get more bang for their buck. JH, Aviva, Pru, West Coast, etc.
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:42 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by InsureGuy5 View Post
I might not use Standard Life of Indiana at the moment (if we are talking about the same company) ...
He was talking about Standard Life and Accident out of Texas, an American National company.
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Old 06-22-2009, 02:30 PM   #12
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MTL has the best Single Premium WL product on the market right now.
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Most (if not all) UL you can short pay. Each carrier has there own niche depending on age and face. I have also found that with older clients (70 +) that it is sometimes better to dump your 1 pay into a SPIA and run a life pay UL....more bang for your buck in some cases.
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Originally Posted by voliosclark View Post
MTL has the best Single Premium WL product on the market right now.
Who is MTL?
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Originally Posted by voliosclark View Post
MTL has the best Single Premium WL product on the market right now.
Care to explain why? No company has a "best".....they all have their own niche.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:55 AM   #17
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Care to explain why? No company has a "best".....they all have their own niche.
I agree. I automatically distrust anyone who says theirs is the "best." Chauvinism is a blind guide.
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:19 AM   #18
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You're right - that was a pretty blanket comment. Didn't have a lot of time to fully explain my post - my apologies.

I use the term "best" because of the product's front end cash value in combination of MTL's comp, rating, underwriting and overall service.

A lot of my agents have clients that are now looking for cash heavy products without exposing themselves to the risk of IUL products.

MTL's Covenant II has a Single Premium PUA Rider along with guaranteed cash values and guaranteed death benefits.

It's also a great product using a "level pay" strategy that can accumulate more cash than total premiums within 5 policy years.

Hope this explains it a little better
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:22 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by voliosclark View Post
You're right - that was a pretty blanket comment. Didn't have a lot of time to fully explain my post - my apologies.

I use the term "best" because of the product's front end cash value in combination of MTL's comp, rating, underwriting and overall service.

A lot of my agents have clients that are now looking for cash heavy products without exposing themselves to the risk of IUL products.

MTL's Covenant II has a Single Premium PUA Rider along with guaranteed cash values and guaranteed death benefits.

It's also a great product using a "level pay" strategy that can accumulate more cash than total premiums within 5 policy years.

Hope this explains it a little better
Can you given an example of the required premium for a $1,000,000 benefit single premium for a preferred risk 60 year old male?
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:27 AM   #20
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I can. PM me your e-mail address and I will send over an illustration to you.
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