Stephens-Matthews Marketing

double_deuces · 10-25-2009, 01:17 PM

Hello to all,

Looking for comments, problems, non-payment issues, etc that you have with this marketing group.

We are gathering all information we can to add to what we have already documented from a number of agents across the country.

It is time that FMO's and IMO's be held accountable for their actions.

Thank you!

Pangaea · 10-25-2009, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by double_deuces

Hello to all,

Looking for comments, problems, non-payment issues, etc that you have with this marketing group.

We are gathering all information we can to add to what we have already documented from a number of agents across the country.

It is time that FMO's and IMO's be held accountable for their actions.

Thank you!

Google.com > Define: FMO, IMO?

double_deuces · 10-25-2009, 01:27 PM

Stephens-Matthews is one of many (FMO's) Field Marketing Organizations, sometimes refferred to as (IMO's) Independent Marketing Organizations in this country

This organization has much to be held accountable for.
We are looking for others that have had issues with them.

Thank you

WinoBlues · 10-25-2009, 01:31 PM

Are you an attorney?

Originally Posted by double_deuces

Stephens-Matthews is one of many (FMO's) Field Marketing Organizations, sometimes refferred to as (IMO's) Independent Marketing Organizations in this country

This organization has much to be held accountable for.
We are looking for others that have had issues with them.

Thank you

double_deuces · 10-25-2009, 01:36 PM

No, I am an agent that has an attorney.

Pangaea · 10-25-2009, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by double_deuces

Stephens-Matthews is one of many (FMO's) Field Marketing Organizations, sometimes refferred to as (IMO's) Independent Marketing Organizations in this country

This organization has much to be held accountable for.
We are looking for others that have had issues with them.

Thank you

Good to know, thanks!

alphawave2k · 10-25-2009, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by double_deuces

No, I am an agent that has an attorney.

Just signed on through them with Assurant contract...I figured this was a way to test them out and see since I probably won't be writing a lot of business if any with this carrier seeing how they are so uncompetitive. I've decided that I'm not putting all my eggs in any one basket. Have some direct contracts where I can with Aetna, Coventry, Humana, still resisting the Blues at this point, and some other companies with various FMO's and GA's. What I don't like about a lot of these guys is having commissions going through them instead of direct to me. Does anyone know if all FMO's and GA's operate this way?
Will report back on Stephens-Mathews when I get more under my belt. I also have some contracts through USABG...didn't get much negative feedback from the boards, so I took the plunge. And lastly, I just signed on with Unimark, out of St Charles, MO with their proprietary Universal Series product through AR.
Boy, this will be interesting
Alph-red-o

Frank Stastny · 10-26-2009, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by alphawave2k

What I don't like about a lot of these guys is having commissions going through them instead of direct to me. Does anyone know if all FMO's and GA's operate this way?

In my opinion, DO NOT EVER SIGH ANY KIND OF CONTRACT WHERE YOU ARE NOT THE AGENT OF RECORD.

So the short answer to your question would be no. I offer contracts, the agents who have contracts with me get a better deal than most and their commission and renewal checks come directly from the insurance company. They are the agent of record.

If you are not the agent of record there is a good chance that you are getting a lower commission and/or renewals than are due you. Plus, when you leave that organization you walk away without any renewals. Renewals are only paid to the agent of record.

captain94 · 10-26-2009, 06:10 PM

I have heard of them and was going to get a few underage contract with them, but since I focus on the senior market now I decided just to send those clients to a buddy of mine that handles health insurance and stay away from the head ach.

Bob_The_Insurance_Guy · 10-26-2009, 06:50 PM

Alpha,

I recommend The Palmer Agency

I have been contracted with them for 7 years now, for:

Life
Health
DI
LTC
Annuities

They are a family run business, and that exactly how you are treated as an agent. They offer great contracts, and are very knowledgeable.

Jimmy, Ron, Myra, Phil, Dawn, Gail all treat you with respect, and they are a wealth of knowledge.

double_deuces · 10-26-2009, 08:02 PM

Hi GUYS...
We are NOT looking for recommendations for another IMO/FMO.....

We are looking for those other agents that have been ripped off, cheated, not paid, etc ... by this company.

This is a very serious matter and we are looking for others who have been burned and want assistance in getting restitution.
They have been convicted, charged and fined by the Indiana Courts for consumer related issues.

We have already accumulated many agent/producer complaints against them. We are looking for those that have yet to be heard !!

Let us hear from you!

Thank you,

hockeyday · 10-26-2009, 08:25 PM

Duce you need to talk to JMHOPKINS on this site he is with them

double_deuces · 10-26-2009, 08:58 PM

He can contact me with any information he wants to relay.
Thank you,

alphawave2k · 10-26-2009, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by double_deuces

Hi GUYS...
They have been convicted, charged and fined by the Indiana Courts for consumer related issues.
We have already accumulated many agent/producer complaints against them. We are looking for those that have yet to be heard !!

Is this against the entire Stephens-Matthews operation or the MGA in the Indiana territory? I'd like to understand if the entire organization is bent, or if it's an instance where a regional has gone off the tracks.

I recommend The Palmer Agency ...Bob Levine
Legacy Financial Partners.

Bob, thanks for your referral. I will follow up with them...it's always good to hear of good, honest agencys working hard and ethically.

I offer contracts, the agents who have contracts with me get a better deal than most and their commission and renewal checks come directly from the insurance...Frank Statsny

Thanks for your response as well Frank...I will look you up soon and chat about my situation.

Alph-red-o

double_deuces · 10-26-2009, 09:20 PM

[quote=alphawave2k;198355]Is this against the entire Stephens-Matthews operation or the MGA in the Indiana territory? I'd like to understand if the entire organization is bent, or if it's an instance where a regional has gone off the tracks.

This is about the Main operation in Beverly, Ohio.They also have some affiliation with illegal insurance sales with another group in Florida. You can google that.

This is not a regional going off his tracks...this the entire organization has been cheating agents for years.

Are you one of those agents?

blaze1x · 10-26-2009, 09:50 PM

[quote=double_deuces;198360]

Originally Posted by alphawave2k

They also have some affiliation with illegal insurance sales with another group in Florida. You can google that.

This is not a regional going off his tracks...this the entire organization has been cheating agents for years.

I googled because I was curious and they have my Assurant contract, but nothing came up. Can you provide me with some links? I have a (minor) story to tell.

double_deuces · 10-26-2009, 10:25 PM

Darn!
I can't put links in the message or PM you.
I am new and they won;t let you do that until you have 10 posts.
I can email you direct with the links if you want them.
Thanks

captain94 · 10-26-2009, 11:39 PM

Just type the link in the post. We can copy and past it.

double_deuces · 10-26-2009, 11:42 PM

The forum will not let me type links yet.
Once I do 10 posts, then I can.
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Anyway,

This is not about those cases.

This is about the wrongs they have done to many agents.

If any of you have been wronged by them please reply.
If you have not...then this does not concern you.

We are here to assist those that have been hurt by this group and want restitution.

Thank you,

alphawave2k · 10-27-2009, 08:24 AM

[quote=double_deuces;198360]

Originally Posted by alphawave2k

Is this against the entire Stephens-Matthews operation or the MGA in the Indiana territory? I'd like to understand if the entire organization is bent, or if it's an instance where a regional has gone off the tracks.

This is not a regional going off his tracks...this the entire organization has been cheating agents for years.
Are you one of those agents?

Deuces, I'm actually not...I had posted earlier that I had just signed on with my Assurant and Humana contracts...though I have not written any business yet. Would you or anyone know the quickest way I can rescind these contracts that were just signed a few weeks back? Thanks for your diligence and help of those agents that have gotten screwed...never ceases to amaze me how many crooked people abound, and unfortunately in this industry which is viewed as tarnished by the common folk.
Alph-red-o