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Old 06-30-2009, 08:40 AM   #1
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I cam across this site, health leads 4 you, searching for a new lead source. They provide you with as many appointments as you can handle in a very defined area on a daily basis. Basically, they call off of their list, set the appointment and send you the information the day before. The information does include basic parameters of age, build, known conditions, etc. I have not been able to find any reference on hear about them. The price is only $14.95 per lead and sounds to good to be true. Only commitment is for 20 leads at roughly $300. I also tried Google to source out information, but no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:45 AM   #2
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$300 is not much of a risk for set appointments. Call them first ask about their "return" policy or replacement for bad appointments then give them a try.....
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:10 AM   #3
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Thanks, they do not allow returns, because they state since the appointments are generated the day before and verified by speaking to the actual client. My concern was no shows and they said it does happen from time to time, but it is minimal. I would expect to get stood up now and then. My concern more is towards the legitimacy of the company. I have not been able to track down a lot of information or background on them. I just don't want to be throwing $300 toward a scam.
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:27 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by jcleer1 View Post
My concern was no shows and they said it does happen from time to time, but it is minimal.
[COLOR=blue]You expected they were going to say it was frequent?[/COLOR]
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Old 06-30-2009, 11:33 AM   #5
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Okay, I am not really concerned about no shows or returns for $300. I am concerned about the legitimacy of the company. Has anyone ever heard, done business with or know anything useful about the company?
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:58 PM   #6
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Never heard of them, but, if your entire exposure is $300, it's not a bad thing to try. There are ways to minimize risk in these transactions. I recommend all of the following:

- Have them provide wave files (recordings) of the appointment setting phone call. This will help you prepare for the appointment as well as help you ensure they are not making up appointments. There will be no shows, but this will tell you who was at fault.
- Pay by credit card. Try to use a 'temporary' card. I know my bank lets me log into my account and create a one time use card that has a limit (of $305 in this case) so I can't be scammed for more. You can replace the card if it works.
- Do not pay by check. You would be asking for an eye opening account balance someday.
- Ask others for opinions. You won't always get them. This group must be new since they don't even google, at least not from my office.
- Understand that this is an investment in your business. Even if it does well initially, you need to constantly evaluate the return. If the return isn't there, stop the leads.

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Old 06-30-2009, 02:05 PM   #7
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$15 is cheap.

I wouldn't touch pre-sets for less than $25 each.

Then again - you get what you pay for . . .

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Old 06-30-2009, 02:19 PM   #8
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Thanks Dan and Tom. Dan, in your opinion would it be okay to pay with a cashiers check? I understand not wanting my bank account hit if this is a scam. If it is and they attack my credit card (I do not have one of those temporary ones) I don't want the hassle of having to remedy that situation either.
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:49 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by jcleer1 View Post
Thanks Dan and Tom. Dan, in your opinion would it be okay to pay with a cashiers check? I understand not wanting my bank account hit if this is a scam. If it is and they attack my credit card (I do not have one of those temporary ones) I don't want the hassle of having to remedy that situation either.
I have my clients pay using a money order, a WalMart Money Pack Re-Load or for an extra 5% - they can pay me with PayPal or Google Checkout.

No complaints so far . . .

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Old 06-30-2009, 02:57 PM   #10
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I have my clients pay using a money order, a WalMart Money Pack Re-Load
Why is this not-at-all surprising?

I suppose you've been on the Jerry Springer Show too.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:14 PM   #11
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Okay, I am new here and I am probably opening myself up to get abused, but so be it. Moonlight, do you have anything positive to contribute to the discussion or do you just sit around waiting to make wise cracks at people who are trying to be helpful?
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Originally Posted by jcleer1 View Post
Okay, I am new here and I am probably opening myself up to get abused, but so be it. Moonlight, do you have anything positive to contribute to the discussion or do you just sit around waiting to make wise cracks at people who are trying to be helpful?
So after the grand total of 11 posts, you are going to apply to be the watchdog-at-large of the forum?

Think about coming back after you dry off a little behind the ears...

You better run along, I think I hear your Mommy calling you!
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:25 PM   #13
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Not trying to be a watchdog at 11 posts, just wondering why you feel the need to chime in if you have nothing but wise cracks to contribute. If you have something constructive do add I would love to hear it and no I am not kidding. I respect other people's opinions and don't think I know everything and never will know everything. But I do have better things to do now, than banter with someone who has nothing constructive to contribute, so have a nice day.
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Old 06-30-2009, 03:31 PM   #14
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He's just an old fart (m&m) that has nothing better to do - just ignore him like most on here do.

The Money Pack is cool - because I don't have to take down a clients financial info, I don't have to pay a credit card surcharge, the money is credited immediately to me and the client can start a campaign immediately as well, if we have the list already.

I take all the normal credit card payments - I just charge them 5% to do it. I provide choices - the client takes the action they deem appropriate . . .

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Old 06-30-2009, 03:35 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by jcleer1 View Post
If you have something constructive do add I would love to hear it and no I am not kidding.
I don't want to call you a moron, so I'll surmise that you're a neophyte.

You got some excellent advice in this thread including:
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My concern was no shows and they said it does happen from time to time, but it is minimal.
[COLOR=blue]You expected they were going to say it was frequent?"[/COLOR]
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It appears though, that you're not bright enough to realize it, understand it, or appreciate it.

Good luck to you - you're gonna need it.
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JC.. a bit of advice... When you ask for advice, determine who has an "agenda" when they respond to you. That is...Do they sell a product on this Forum...especially a product you are talking about buying.

Generally, those without an agenda (as it relates to you) will give you unbiased advice.

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Thanks Chumps.
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I just tried pre set appointments, it was a nightmare, dont use black box technologies aka www.affordablemedicareleads.com and www.affordablefinalexpenseleads.com
They are a joke of a company, the customer service guy that worked there told me all the problems going on with their other accounts, and he quit last time i heard because the owner is ripping people off with bad appointments.
The first set of appointments were crap (i told them no tricare or medicaid, i guess they didnt understand that)
The next sets were all crap, only one show!!
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Originally Posted by emptyeternity View Post
I just tried pre set appointments, it was a nightmare, dont use black box technologies aka www.affordablemedicareleads.com and www.affordablefinalexpenseleads.com
They are a joke of a company, the customer service guy that worked there told me all the problems going on with their other accounts, and he quit last time i heard because the owner is ripping people off with bad appointments.
[COLOR=blue]Isn't this the guy that was on here touting his website...which had no address OR phone number on it?[/COLOR]

[COLOR=blue]Shocking.[/COLOR]
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Thanks Emptyeternity. The company and site I have been looking at is Insurance Leads Now - Quality Insurance Leads. I am concerned that there is only a p.o. box listed for an address and no physical building. I emailed the person I have been talking to over there to get a physical address so I can run it through google earth.

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