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Old 03-21-2010, 03:10 PM   #1
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In focusing on cashflow on Major Med and Short Term Medical how long should I factor in for underwriting before they check clears to my bank account?

Here are the carriers..

United/Golden Rule (major / stm)

Assurant (major / stm / limited benefit AHA)

Humana

World Insurance

Aetna
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:14 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by defenderzeta View Post
In focusing on cashflow on Major Med and Short Term Medical how long should I factor in for underwriting before they check clears to my bank account?

Here are the carriers..

United/Golden Rule (major / stm)

Assurant (major / stm / limited benefit AHA)

Humana

World Insurance

Aetna

This is going to depend on if you are carrier direct, if your commissions are assigned to an agency....etc:

Assurant has weekly advances

Humana pays twice a month

Golden Rule is usually once a month, unless you have a GA like AHCP who will advance weekly.

World I think does weekly advances.

I've never written an Aetna case in FL, so I wouldn't know.
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Originally Posted by defenderzeta View Post
In focusing on cashflow on Major Med and Short Term Medical how long should I factor in for underwriting before they check clears to my bank account?


I think you need to bank on a month, maybe 2/3 weeks if you are lucky from the date you submit an app.
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Old 03-21-2010, 03:29 PM   #3
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Aetna and United/GR are thru AHCP

Assurant is under the Health Choice One Contract

Ditto for World and Humana

Originally Posted by YouGotMyMoney View Post
This is going to depend on if you are carrier direct, if your commissions are assigned to an agency....etc:

Assurant has weekly advances

Humana pays twice a month

Golden Rule is usually once a month, unless you have a GA like AHCP who will advance weekly.

World I think does weekly advances.

I've never written an Aetna case in FL, so I wouldn't know.
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I think you need to bank of a month, maybe 2/3 weeks if you are lucky from the date you submit an app.

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Old 03-21-2010, 04:08 PM   #4
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Well Aetna is a 6 month advance through AHCP, no idea if it's weekly or monthly.

GR through AHCP can be weekly.

Assurant through HCO is weekly.

World again I think is weekly.

Humana is a 9 month advance, paid 2 times a month.

Don't forget to count only your advances as total compensation,with the Aetna and UHC/AHCP.....the as earned will never get paid to you(Or not for years) if you continue to write or take advances.
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Old 03-21-2010, 06:07 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by YouGotMyMoney View Post
Well Aetna is a 6 month advance through AHCP, no idea if it's weekly or monthly.

GR through AHCP can be weekly.

Assurant through HCO is weekly.

World again I think is weekly.

Humana is a 9 month advance, paid 2 times a month.

Don't forget to count only your advances as total compensation,with the Aetna and UHC/AHCP.....the as earned will never get paid to you(Or not for years) if you continue to write or take advances.
I am taking out 30% into a 2nd bank account as my chargeback reserve. Is a 70% persistency in the book at 9 months reasonable?
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Old 03-21-2010, 06:12 PM   #6
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Depends on how good you are and what kind of clients you have.

At 7 months, I have 95%.

Not saying I'm actually better than anyone else, But the way I present, I only write up people that stick.



I'm curious, why did you decide to go with AHCP/HCO?
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Old 03-21-2010, 06:14 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by YouGotMyMoney View Post
Depends on how good you are and what kind of clients you have.

At 7 months, I have 95%.

Not saying I'm actually better than anyone else, But the way I present, I only write up people that stick.



I'm curious, why did you decide to go with AHCP/HCO?
They have pretty good splits and they have given me good customer service so far. Plus if it ever falls apart they allow you to take your business elsewhere with new enrollments.
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Old 03-21-2010, 06:19 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by defenderzeta View Post
Plus if it ever falls apart they allow you to take your business elsewhere with new enrollments.

It really is great that they put the release in writing, but what you have to understand is if you are taking advances, you will not get released if you can't pay back your debt balance or find another IMO to assume the debt.

Plus don't forget the interest on advances.
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I am taking out 30% into a 2nd bank account as my chargeback reserve.
Plus another 30% for taxes . . .
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Old 03-21-2010, 06:59 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by somarco View Post
Plus another 30% for taxes . . .
I am assigning the profits to my LLC. Its my understanding that we can have a holdback account for charge backs and not count it as profit for the passthru tax.
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I have found Aetna to take the longest for an application to go through underwriting.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:45 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by SC Local LAH Agent View Post
I have found Aetna to take the longest for an application to go through underwriting.
Thank you

I have mostly sold guaranteed issue minimeds and stm in a callroom environment and i am having to adjust for underwriting lag times on major med carriers to make sure i cash flow properly as i make my adjustment into the independent universe.
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:55 PM   #13
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How do you find out what the interest is on advances? I did not come across that on the AHCP contract.
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I'd suggest calling AHCP and asking.

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