In the last 10 minutes I have purchased the domain Coming soon (TurnThemOut.org) and set up a temporary index.htm marker for where the site will be.
Personally, I'm sick of sitting back and watching our country being sucked into things that WE don't want and I'm sick of the self-serving morons in Washington.
Now, you may happen to like the particular representative you have in Washington. Maybe you even voted for him or her. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE COUNTING ON. They think that even though the approval rating for Congress may be 24% or so, they can at least get re-elected back home.
THAT HAS TO CHANGE. We will never get back to being a republic unless every last member of the House and Senate are removed in the coming elections. They must be replaced by people who understand they are not being given a lifetime job.
Judging by what I am reading here, this should be something that Dems, Repubs, and Indes can all get on board with.
Just a seed, but I have some very interesting ideas that could make this work.
I see, so you believe that when it comes to the House of Representatives, NOT one member should be re-elected. They are ALL equally bad, and they all need to go.
I see, so you believe that when it comes to the House of Representatives, NOT one member should be re-elected. They are ALL equally bad, and they all need to go.
Is that your position?
Presactly!
I don't think they will get the message otherwise. I know that not all will be removed, but I have several ideas there.
I think anyone who wants to run for the "new" Congress will have to make a couple of pledges in writing at the start of their campaign. The pledges are simple:
1) To scrap the special health coverage Congress gets and to accept whatever options they are going to make available to (force on) the public.
2) To scrap whatever cushy retirement plans that are available to Congress at taxpayer expense and to accept Social Security as their only avenue for retirement.
In general, to agree not to screw the American public with their own special deals that they vote for themselves and that are unavailable to the rest of us.
3) Term limits. I don't care whether we are talking two terms or whatever. The power game that incumbents play to keep out new blood has to cease. The most obnoxious people in Congress are the ones who have been there the longest and apparently feel it is their God-given right to rule over the rest of us.
Pelosi thinks that just because she is hot she can get away with anything.
My wife says her mother always told her "pretty is, as pretty does". According to that, Pelosi is one ugly b****.
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...she appears to be a most defenceless animal; and even when those weapons are shewn and extended for her defence, they appear weak and contemptible; but their wounds however small, are decisive and fatal:—Conscious of this, she never wounds till she has generously given notice, even to her enemy, and cautioned him against the danger of treading on her.—Was I wrong, Sir, in thinking this a strong picture of the temper and conduct of America? -- Benjamin Franklin
But after seeing the "interview" between John Ziegler and CPAC head David Keene, there is a much deeper problem with our elected whores.
After all, they didn't become whores overnight. It was a long, gradual process which I am sure many of them thoroughly enjoyed - it fits in with their narcissism.
John McCain loves to be "known for" reform, such as McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform. Somehow, that didn't prevent George Soros from spending $24 million of his hard-sucked dollars.
Too often our GOP is run by so called moderate Republicans (aka RINO's - Republicans in Name Only). These Republicans are really wolves in sheep's clothing ready to compromise with liberal Democrats at every opportune moment. RINO's wield too much power and influence in our Republican Party and they do not represent what the majority of Republican voters believe.
Too many Republican leaders are insiders and party hacks who use their positions of leadership as a means for self advancement. These folks often stand in the way of the aggressive advancement of conservative political principles, ideas and candidates.
The answer for conservatives is not to walk away, the answer is to take over the GOP.
Do I think that applies to ALL Republican Members of Congress or Senate, no. But energy is better spend pumping conservatives into the party at the grass roots level and joining forces to root out the people standing in the way.
It worked for the left wing extremists who took over the Democratic party.
To suggest that you toss out everyone is futile and counterproductive.
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To suggest that you toss out everyone is futile and counterproductive.
No, respectfully I disagree.
Just look at the Contract with America that Newt came in with. One "pledge" was that the signers would agree to serve only one term. That pledge was quickly broken: "Well, now that we are elected we see that it is important for the country that we stay here to finish our work."
This is not a Republican versus Conservative versus Democrat thing any more. It is inbred corruption at every level that can only be rooted out by drastic measures.
At this moment, we have a Congress that is meeting in secret with representatives of the administration to put together the most important legislation in decades. Legislation that is being kept secret from the American people because they know we would not stand for it. Knowing we do not want it, they are going to jam it down our throats regardless.
If something like this does not deserve the righteous retribution of the American voter, I don't know what does.
First, you are deflecting attention from the real concern.
Second, you are advocating a position that will not work. And because it will not work, you are investing your time into one thing when the same time, directed in a different direction, would work. And even if you were successful, and you won't be, you would not improve the situation.
Some questions.
What state are you in?
What party are you a member of?
Are you active in the precinct of your party - for example - are you the captain of your precinct?
If you are not the precinct captain, do you know who is?
When was the last time you attended a party meeting in your county?
I suspect like most, you are not active in the local party and yet your state's party is made up of and controlled by all these county divisions. So if you are not active you have no one to blame but yourself. Positions of leadership are available to be taken up by you and you have not done so. If you want to change the system you have to get into the system.
I realize full well that we will never literally be able to vote everyone out.
However, they need to have some concept of how pissed off everyone is. They are taking the position that we have a 10 minute attention span. Unfortunately, there is some truth to that. There needs to be a process to keep the sore exposed and people need to be reminded why they were pissed way back several months before the election.
But anyway, this is a work in progress. This is not a destructive anarchist thing I have in mind. It is a way to recruit candidates willing to make a pledge in return for some truly grassroots support.
As for precinct captain, etc. that is all part of the problem. At this point it doesn't really matter what party you are in since the Repubs betrayed conservatives. I would just as soon be a Dem at this point. I would rather not take it the back any more, thank you very much.
I have been a Repub since I first voted and am seriously thinking about changing to Independent. They might as well change the name to Rebubocrat as far as I am concerned.
As for precinct captain, etc. that is all part of the problem. At this point it doesn't really matter what party you are in since the Repubs betrayed conservatives.
As I thought, a Republican but not involved in leadership in the party at the grass roots level.
And never having done so, you dismiss it as the fault of the party.
Let me suggest to you that it is not the Republican party that has failed conservatives, it is conservatives who have failed the Republican party, and indeed our consitution and country. Take a long hard look in the mirror, that's who you can blame first.
Our country is a democracy, it requires the participation of its citizens. But conservatives, and I am one of them, have been busy about working hard, raising our families, contributing to our churches, etc. But what we have failed to do is GET INVOLVED in politics. And if you don't get involved someone else will. And that someone else is usually a liberal who is not happy unless they are sticking their nose into someone else's business. What better way to do that than get involved in politics.
So the liberals are naturally drawn into political activity, and conservatives have better things to do. Well, those chickens have come home to roost and rather than complain and whine about it, it's high time to pull up our boot straps and fix it.
You don't fix it by starting over, that's too darn much work. We just have to infiltrate the leadership of the Republican party, take it over and make it a conservative party. I mean look, the socialists managed to hijack the Democratic party, how hard can it be?
And if your not doing that, and you think the answer is somewhere else, then you are wasting your time, and you are helping to perpetuate the problem.
You don't fix it by starting over, that's too darn much work. We just have to infiltrate the leadership of the Republican party, take it over and make it a conservative party.
As I thought, a Republican but not involved in leadership in the party at the grass roots level.
And never having done so, you dismiss it as the fault of the party.
But what we have failed to do is GET INVOLVED in politics. And if you don't get involved someone else will.
I agree with that much, anyway. However, I am opting for getting involved in a way that might possibly shake things up a bit.
I have been involved in politics locally, and have not been impressed. "I would like to be more involved." "Great, how much money are we talking about?" "Uh, I was thinking more of personal involvement." "Great, how much money are we talking about?"
This idea is starting to take some shape conceptually. I think "turn them out" is a little strident and have changed things a bit. I have formed a non-profit corporation in Louisiana (Recycle Congress, Inc.) to own the site and will be soliciting help from the many folks who are totally disgusted with Congress.
I am working today on the "Clown of the Month" feature as part of the "Hall of Shame" -but there are so many to choose from. Maybe the jerk from Florida who say Republicans want people to die? His face would be natural if you are talking about clowns. Maybe a group photo of the members of the Congressional Black Caucus who went on a guided tour of Cuba and were able to report back that they didn't see any torture and that Castro was "charming."
You have the following pledge on your site, which I like:
The Pledge
This is very simple. Any honest candidate for either the House or the Senate should be able to take this Pledge:
1) I promise that I will dismantle the private retirement system reserved for members of Congress and establish Social Security as the only retirement system available to us.
2) I promise that I will dismantle the private (and free) health insurance available only to members of Congress and that I will only accept whatever options we make available to the general public
My question is what is the point/purpose of the pledge. If an existing congressman signs on to your pledge, do you still think they should be thrown out?
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