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[JE INSURANCE]

I hear vimo has a call center before they send leads out,is this correct? thanx

[CHUMPS FROM OXFORD]

Yes they do (in Atlanta?). It might be goinsurance.com or getinsurance.com or something like that. Do ALL leads go to the call center first? That is a question that needs to be asked...and responded to in writing.

[Amber Scherloz]

It is a strategic way of getting prospects. There enters our expertise in appointment setting procedures. It is very helpful because it lets you do away with the hassles of finding prospects or leads.

[emptyeternity]

Be careful Amber....

[YouGotMyMoney]

Originally Posted by CHUMPS FROM OXFORD

Do ALL leads go to the call center first?

I'm sure they do.

Who even buys vimo leads?

I know all shared leads are robo-dialed, but why buy leads from a vendor who is directly competing with you?

[CHUMPS FROM OXFORD]

I still buy a few VIMO leads. I think I'll ask my VIMO rep about this.

[healthagent]

Just put in for a quote and see if you get routed to their call center first.

[VacantHomeIns]

We use a call center - specialty answering service (Answering Service, Inbound Call Center Services, Phone Answering | Specialty Answering Service) - to answer our phones & give customer information when we are not available. Never heard of the service you are discussing though?

[CHUMPS FROM OXFORD]

I'm still VERY curious what VIMO is doing. When you request a quote...you get redirected to getinsured.com with instant quotes and this message:

Why Apply with GetInsured? [COLOR=#800080]Price Assurance [/COLOR]You won't find the same health plan at a better price anywhere! We guarantee it.
Prices are regulated by law so you can't get a better deal, even if you go to the insurance company directly. However, if you do find a plan that you like somewhere else, just call us at 866-542-8466 for a risk-free consultation.
Our experts will give you an honest assessment to assure you that the plan you've selected is the right one for your situation.
No Broker or Application Fees 30 Day Money Back Guarantee
Are these the leads we are buying? I'm interested to find out if anybody recently tested their system and if so...what they found out.

[jeremyeast]

I almost wrote the entire truth about this subject here but just deleted it, as I thought better of it. Suffice it to say, I will never buy internet leads personally except for our cold caller when we from time to time employ an appointment setter I will buy a dated lead list, as I get shafted pretty bad every time I try to buy leads for my agents. This business model does work though, but you have to be a good salesperson who is on the phone all day like a stock broker (our agents are fairly spoiled though as we have been giving them non-competitive leads for years)
Florida is the worst state as there are so many companies buying every lead here including the esteemed Health Markets who give their leads to like 5 brokers and let them fight it out like blood in a shark pool, or is sharks in a blood pool? I can never remember. Hopefully it is better in your state.

[CHUMPS FROM OXFORD]

"I almost wrote the entire truth about this subject here but just deleted it"

How about trying again? Actually, we may already know, but it would still be good reading.

[jeremyeast]

Caught! Posting on the internet with a head cold. Its not like Watergate but I heard some crazy stuff which I would have certainly pm'd if I actually had a 10 post count as your site gave me inspiration to start building a web presence instead of taking the normal Norvax care package. So my gratitude for your posts will have to go unrewarded until I get to the magical 10.
I will say this if those leads were escorts by the time they got to your house there would be daylight and more scarring than bruising. Or is more bruising than scarring?

[healthagent]

It all seems to be a non-issue. ROI is there or it isn't. I'm not sure my time is served well and especially my emotional energy trying to track down what these lead vendors are doing.

Buy leads from a vendor. You're either returning decent ROI or you're not. If you're not the reason is irrelevant - just cancel and move on.

[CHUMPS FROM OXFORD]

"my emotional energy trying to track down what these lead vendors are doing"

In my case, I really don't expend any emotional energy listening to what others have to say. Many of us have learned quite a bit from those without an agenda about many lead vendors mentioned on this Forum.

[healthagent]

I've done 4 in-depth lead studies using a very large sample of agents. The results? There were none. For every group of agents who were steaming pissed at a particular vendor there was an equal group who used them with great results.

[CHUMPS FROM OXFORD]

I appreciate anyone who has taken the time to research this. And I respect your findings.

I have done about 7 in-depth studies using an extremely large sample of agents/brokers. I have also consulted with some of the largest writers of health insurance.

I did see results and a pattern. When certain agencies are spending tens of thousands (not hundreds) of dollars each month on lead generation, they have a pretty good idea of what's going on.

[jeremyeast]

I know that there is almost one call center agent for every agent that sits in his underwear and his little skype headset gambling his baby's formula money on a couple of so called exclusive health insurance leads. I don't know if this fictitious person exists but if he does I would tell him not to waste his money.

A better question is, and I only found this out last night, why does Google let ehealth get Texas and rank them as number 1 for the term Texas health insurance, but in Florida let these little affiliate marketing companies or small general agencies get the number one ranking. These guys have less then 1000 links and ehealth is probably close to 20k?

If anyone knows the answer to this I hope they share, as lets for instance say that someone gets near the top of the state rankings much as chumps has done in Ohio, who is to say that google doesn't go in there and give his ranking to ehealth one day?

The common sense answer is of course chumps is the local guy but I am not certain that is the answer. Any input on this from the panel of experts?

[somarco]

I just Googled Texas health insurance and eHealth was #8, right below some joker named Peelerinsurance.

Florida health insurance gives them a no show.

Planrover comes in at number 1 with a PR 3 and 36 backlinks.

[jeremyeast]

Your right! That's so crazy because I was reading some internet forum or blog, i am not sure because it was late and I had just finished my nightly salsa dance lessons which make me really sleepy, and some perp. was telling people not to bother w/health seo because of these big companies and when i clicked on the link it showed he was right, then i did it from my office a minute ago, and as you said it was more balanced and the peeler guy was there.
Thanks I was up last night worrying about this for a couple of hours until my medication hit my system. Thank you medication and thank you for correcting me and this joker.
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When I get home tonight (after my pottery class) I am going to go to my history, and am going to post the page that I saw on this here forum, so we can all spam him! I would guess it's probably a Norvax blog
I am joking Norvax please don't punish me.
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I found the post
Blog.agentmethods.com/2009/08/11/search-optimization-is-a-losing-game
Put an http in front as i am deficient in posts and can't post a url yet, btw who made this rule it is very stifling. I can't even advertise my black market baby wholesale anchor text yet.
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Its some outfit called agent methods does anyone know if they post on this board?

[somarco]

Salsa dancing, pottery classes, medication . . . do you live in San Francisco? Do you know Al?