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Old 09-01-2009, 09:42 AM   #1
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Voice broadcasting becomes illegal in most cases today, September 1, due to a new law enacted by the FTC. Inside the ruling it states that voice broadcasting is only permitted if you are calling an "opt-in" list. Well there is only one voice broadcasting company that I know of that is still in business today, because they call only opt-in lists.

The company is Voice Blaze and the phone number is 877-455-8138. Ask for Nate and he will take care of you.

If you want to voice broadcast legally starting today, this is the only company I have found the complies by calling on only opted-in lists as required by the FTC.
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Old 09-01-2009, 09:46 AM   #2
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You should put this in the offer section and follow the rules on the forum. We all know that a normal person don't just find a forum and on their 1st post start promoting a company that they either don't own or work for.

You are talking about your company in 3rd hand, which is a big red flag to me.

You even say to ask for Nate, hmm.. Okay Nate, thanks.
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Old 09-01-2009, 12:44 PM   #3
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They think the new law has alot of "gray area" in it.

Stick with B2B or be prepared for the wrath of the FTC.
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Old 09-02-2009, 02:10 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Markingriffin View Post
You should put this in the offer section and follow the rules on the forum. We all know that a normal person don't just find a forum and on their 1st post start promoting a company that they either don't own or work for.

You are talking about your company in 3rd hand, which is a big red flag to me.

You even say to ask for Nate, hmm.. Okay Nate, thanks.
Either you bought their story or you're pushing them for some other reason, but they're completely wrong. There is no "gray area" about this. The opt-in list has the be people specifically requesting the info. This is what your boy Nate sent a friend of mine regarding voice broadcasting:
"It is going to be illegal after 9/1/09 without written consent to call a person. The solution we have to work around the new law is that we have acquired 200,000,000 opt in records, were people have opted in to be contacted. This data has the time date and website where they agreed to be contacted. If you have questions please feel free to contact our compliance consultant.
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877-455-8138 ext 104
Cell 215-901-9800"

Let's consider the facts:
-People have to specifically request information, it can't be fine print at the bottom.
-There are only 300,000,000 Americans to begin with, and he's claiming that 2 out of 3 of them went online and requested information about final expense? Or Medicare Supplements? Or car insurance?
-According to the 2006 census, there are only about 225 million Americans over the age of 18. For 2008 estimates check out USA QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau.
-Allegedly there are less than 130,000,000 households.

From the FTC Website:
"Expressly prohibit telemarketing sales calls that deliver prerecorded messages, whether answered in person by a consumer or by an answering machine or voicemail service, unless the seller has previously obtained the recipient's signed, written agreement to receive such calls;"

So the claim that's being made by Nate is that he not only has all 130,000,000 American households going on the internet and making specific requests about any product you can imagine, but that another 70,000,000 individuals that are living with family and friends, or are homeless, also login to the internet and make specific requests to have someone contact them about every service that can be offered? He's also claiming that only 25,000,000 or so Americans don't go on the internet and request information about multiple products on a regular basis, which seems optimistic. We have over 43 million Americans on Medicare, of which I have to believe at least half of them don't use the internet. I'm also sure that between the seniors that don't use computers (and yes, I know many of them do), those of us who are on this forum and others who are more than proficient in using the internet that don't fill out information requests, and people that just don't have any interest in purchasing anything so they don't fill out opt-in forms, that must account to over 25,000,000 people who aren't opting-in. Don't get me wrong, I think it's cute that they're trying to stay in business, but the notion of that being legit is laughable.
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:27 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by insurancegod View Post
Voice broadcasting becomes illegal in most cases today, September 1, due to a new law enacted by the FTC. Inside the ruling it states that voice broadcasting is only permitted if you are calling an "opt-in" list. Well there is only one voice broadcasting company that I know of that is still in business today, because they call only opt-in lists.

The company is Voice Blaze and the phone number is 877-455-8138. Ask for Nate and he will take care of you.

If you want to voice broadcast legally starting today, this is the only company I have found the complies by calling on only opted-in lists as required by the FTC.
They have to request information "from you" about "your" specific product or service, and you have to be able to prove that they agreed to recieve a recorded sales message from 'you".....these generic optin list fogies are going to get people nailed...and out of business.
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Old 10-19-2009, 05:24 AM   #6
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Voice broadcasting is almost illegal, but here’s a fix.

FTC has changed the voice broadcasting laws as of September 2009. You will need written permission from the recipient before sending a voice broadcast message.

Voice broadcasters need to re-invent a solution to continue voice broadcasting within the constraints of the new laws. Luckily, there is a solution. A new service called voicemail courier makes it possible to resume mass communication with a pre-recorded message, whether you use a permission based list or not

This method of mass communication is legal because a live person interacts with each call and message delivery, thereby satisfying the new voice broadcasting laws. Voicelogic will give you legal indemnity.

This service uses proprietary software developed by Voicelogic.com

Check out voicelogic.com and see if they can help you.
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:23 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by voicelogic View Post
Voice broadcasting is almost illegal, but here’s a fix.

FTC has changed the voice broadcasting laws as of September 2009. You will need written permission from the recipient before sending a voice broadcast message.

Voice broadcasters need to re-invent a solution to continue voice broadcasting within the constraints of the new laws. Luckily, there is a solution. A new service called voicemail courier makes it possible to resume mass communication with a pre-recorded message, whether you use a permission based list or not

This method of mass communication is legal because a live person interacts with each call and message delivery, thereby satisfying the new voice broadcasting laws. Voicelogic will give you legal indemnity.

This service uses proprietary software developed by Voicelogic.com

Check out voicelogic.com and see if they can help you.

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Old 10-20-2009, 06:34 AM   #8
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It is really good to be here.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:36 AM   #9
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I think this is great. We have spam offered to start the thread, which should only be in the offers section, and then another spammer jumps on to try and market their junk.

OFFERS SECTION PLEASE!!

Also they are completely full of it, and really should not even be allowed to put it in the offer section as what they are offering is illegal. Why not simply offer other illegal services, many of which would probably get more interest here!

I think Al could use something that would relax and take the edge off after all!
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Well said!
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Is it still legal to do a voice broadcast to businesses? The FTC doesn't address it directly but says that telemarketing laws do not apply for B2B unless you are selling office supplies. There must have been a real problem with that in the past.
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Originally Posted by 81Firebird View Post
Is it still legal to do a voice broadcast to businesses? The FTC doesn't address it directly but says that telemarketing laws do not apply for B2B unless you are selling office supplies. There must have been a real problem with that in the past.
That has been the subject of much debate, all things considered it's probably not the best route to go, but I'm also partially biased because I use telemarketers and would rather them have less competition.
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Voice broadcasting to businesses is not illegal, but look what happens.

The reception recieves the call, the message starts playing, then she hangs up the phone. Receptionists wont listen to a voice broadcast because they can not transfer the call, and the call was not for them, nor do they care about what ever the message is saying. To them its an annoyance.

Unless you call the precise person on their direct line, your message wont be delivered, and it will be wasted. If the target person has an extention number, most voice broadcast systems will not deal with dialing an extention becuase phone menus can be complicated and a computer wont know precisely when to press the extention number.

The best solution us to use whats called a "voicemail courier". google that. Its a hybrid call center that delivers prerecorded messages, by weaving though reception, phone menus, and extention numbers. Its more inteligent than a voice broadcast system.
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Originally Posted by voicelogic View Post
Voice broadcasting to businesses is not illegal, but look what happens.

The reception recieves the call, the message starts playing, then she hangs up the phone. Receptionists wont listen to a voice broadcast because they can not transfer the call, and the call was not for them, nor do they care about what ever the message is saying. To them its an annoyance.

Unless you call the precise person on their direct line, your message wont be delivered, and it will be wasted. If the target person has an extention number, most voice broadcast systems will not deal with dialing an extention becuase phone menus can be complicated and a computer wont know precisely when to press the extention number.

The best solution us to use whats called a "voicemail courier". google that. Its a hybrid call center that delivers prerecorded messages, by weaving though reception, phone menus, and extention numbers. Its more inteligent than a voice broadcast system.
Depends on who/what type of business you are calling. If you are calling medium to larger companies, yes...it's a waste of your marketing dollars.

But if you are approaching the small, brick and mortar/retail and service businesses.....you'll reach the decision makers all day long, with the right data base and experienced marketing professional.
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Hi Kelly, yes you are correct. It highly depends on your database of contacts.

We have been serviceing clients who use voice broadcasting for 14 years. we are developers and service providers of such software. Most of our clients who used voice broadcasting were using it for B2C purposes.

Now with new FTC laws against voice broadcasting, it gives voice broadcasting a negative PR, unfortunately, even if you have written permission. However there are some die hards that still need such a service becuase its faster than mail, flyers or postcards. And its accurate with 100% message delivery. As mentioned above the service is called "voicemail courier", and its legal becuase every pre-recorded message is handled by a live agent, and you dont need written permission.

This may be a valuable solution for some businesses that need to send pre-recorded messages and dont have written permission. More can be seen at voicelogic (dot) com
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Originally Posted by voicelogic View Post
Hi Kelly, yes you are correct. It highly depends on your database of contacts.

We have been serviceing clients who use voice broadcasting for 14 years. we are developers and service providers of such software. Most of our clients who used voice broadcasting were using it for B2C purposes.

Now with new FTC laws against voice broadcasting, it gives voice broadcasting a negative PR, unfortunately, even if you have written permission. However there are some die hards that still need such a service becuase its faster than mail, flyers or postcards. And its accurate with 100% message delivery. As mentioned above the service is called "voicemail courier", and its legal becuase every pre-recorded message is handled by a live agent, and you dont need written permission.

This may be a valuable solution for some businesses that need to send pre-recorded messages and dont have written permission. More can be seen at voicelogic (dot) com
With full compliance, B2B can still be done quite efficiently and probably the most cost effective method of creating "right now", live prospects.

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