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Old 06-25-2009, 04:59 PM   #61
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Equita's EMG may be the new NAA. Equita's EFES is not.


I spent 4 years with NAA, actually can still submit thru them if I want. I also worked some with EMG and a lot with EFES.

EFES is nothing like NAA. If they become NAA like, I'm done with them. I don't see that happening.
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Old 06-27-2009, 02:02 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by kial View Post
I agree. EQUITA IS THE NEW NAA. I remember hearing the words from Sam Wolf's mouth saying he was not interested in having a lot of agents just a few good ones. Now Ralph and all his followers are completing the task of fully converting Equita into NAA, a recruiting business with no need to sell, just recruit and at the same time fall deeper into debt. Did you know that with most insurance companies if you have an agent that leaves you and has left an unpaid charge back it will get rolled over to you. Think about this if you wish to follow Equita/NAA's recruiting steps. You better have plenty of maney saved up.
Kial, I heard those same words from Sam. We probably know each other. My upline and I were let go in December. I heard Troy Miles let go a month ago as well. They are cleaning house.
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Originally Posted by ksigmtsu View Post
Equita is also having severe problems with keeping up their lead generation, and they're reselling leads that were denied in underwriting. The person in charge of the lead assignment admitted over the phone that up to 25% of the rejected applications are not being removed from the system, and the only way to reemburse those is to get the person on the phone with Equita. They won't look them up. They've assigned me multiple copies of the same person 4 times in 75 leads. Each time it was not a different card the same person mailed in, but literally a copy of the same card. I wonder what happens when thats 2 different agents, or they were already sold or rejected. These leads are costing 26 dollars each. I've had to have 14 out of the 76 I got replaced, because they did not meet equitas standard but were sold anyway. They had a MUCH better reputation than NAA to start with, but frankly now they look like a carbon copy with worse sales support and marketing. They're also starting their agents with 55% commissions on simplified issue, which you can beat by 25-60% by just signing with a different company.
Equita had a hard time with their lead distribution back when it was exclusive to an agent. Back before this poorly executed B Lead program. As much as I'm not an NAA fan, Andy Albright does not have a problem spending money on technology to support their distribution. It still screws the agents but at least it works for the company.

I've been building the IMO my partner and I started upon leaving EMG, and now when I get inquiries from EMG agents I'm amazed at what I am hearing on how things are being run there. Too many chiefs and not enough Indians. It really sounds like choas.

I like Sam Wolfe as a person and still consider him a friend. He could have really hosed me when I left Equita but didn't. I just don't understand what he's thinking with this business model. What had made Equita a competitor for NAA in the beginning is that they were not like NAA. Now... Hard to tell them apart. So now what's allowing my IMO to grow is simply copying what Equita used to be. A good solid Mortgage Protection sales company. Not an MLM.

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Old 07-15-2009, 05:52 PM   #63
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NAA without Ralph and others. Not so well!

1. Richard Reyes Thomas Brown $13,131.24
2. Lisa Iadarola Kyle Winebrenner $10,578.88
3. Brian Simpson Kevin Davies $10,433.04
4. Dayna Mcmellon William Lampe $9,756.00
5. William Martin William Martin $8,843.92
6. Mark Fox Jason Myers $8,796.00
7. William Cook Jr. William Cook $8,425.68
8. Joanne Gamilis Christopher Long $8,345.04
9. John Lazas Paul Kleinman $8,241.21
10. Glenn Clark Jr. Mark Stough $8,014.44
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Old 08-29-2009, 07:24 PM   #64
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Originally Posted by kial View Post
I agree. EQUITA IS THE NEW NAA. I remember hearing the words from Sam Wolf's mouth saying he was not interested in having a lot of agents just a few good ones. Now Ralph and all his followers are completing the task of fully converting Equita into NAA, a recruiting business with no need to sell, just recruit and at the same time fall deeper into debt. Did you know that with most insurance companies if you have an agent that leaves you and has left an unpaid charge back it will get rolled over to you. Think about this if you wish to follow Equita/NAA's recruiting steps. You better have plenty of maney saved up.
Actually, with Equita Mortgage Group, if there is a charge back and the agent is no longer with the company, the charge back rolls back up to the company - not the manager.
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Old 08-29-2009, 08:14 PM   #65
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Originally Posted by rickbranch View Post
You seem to know about this company and I thought you said, that the company can do something about other company contract. Also, a friend of mine is getting ready to sign with Equita/ NAA and wants me to be is first recruit. With a contract of about 50%, a required boot camp that cost $199 and leads costing $26 or $27 a lead. All I want is the company that I get good leads, and me putting the business with approx 15 to 20 good companies that I get 70% to 100% commission. I don't see any good about my friends signing with Equita or Nat Alliance. Are these companies together are separate? Any suggestions?
For the out of pocket "bootcamp" costs, high leads costs, low contracts......I can't imagine why you would ever consider doing business with them. If you understand CPS and have a Clear Daily Work Plan offered thru a GA that will actually be a mentor and coach you can start off strong. Go wide and Deep.

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Old 08-29-2009, 08:34 PM   #66
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Well, I'd say no one thing is for everyone. We were in real estate and the market is down, you could say. Like another poster, we were accustomed to a certain income and real estate's not working right now, so we needed something that would work. We were introduced to a great manager who is very honest and tells it like it is even if that's not what you want to hear.

My husband and I joined EMG 2 weeks ago and have run leads 2 weekends. I have sold more than $12,000 with the leads they have - the majority being "b" leads. YMMV. You don't HAVE to buy leads from them, they just make them available. The first time the lead is produced, it is exclusive to you for 30 days. If you don't sell it within that time, they will make it available to other agents so that that family can get protected.

The "A" leads do cost $25+, but they are consistently on sale for less than $20 we are finding. I have found that on the "B" leads, many times agents haven't even called these people. The "B" leads are typically $7, but were on sale for like $5 this last week. Again, though, you don't have to buy the leads. They are just there if you want to take advantage of them.

We believe that some of the "b" leads are sold too many times - especially in the D/FW metroplex. But, in outer lying areas that doesn't seem to be the case. That's a fly in the ointment.

Not everyone is able to qualify for fully medical underwritten coverage and/or they don't feel comfortable having a medical exam. Everyone's different. They are underwritten by strong, stable companies and we feel really good about the product.

Some of the people don't have bank accounts or other issues. So what's new? Sales is about problem solving. If you think that's a difficult situation, try selling new homes. That's a complicated, multi-faceted sale where about 1,000 things can go wrong. Getting over "no bank account" is nuttin' but a thing.

Yes, you do start out at a 55% contract. You can, if you are willing to work, get up to a 100% contract fairly quickly.

Most of the posts I've seen about this subject don't seem to reveal the things I'm saying, so I just wanted to share another POV about Equita.

My husband has his Series x, y and z, and used to sell for Edward Jones and insurance companies. I'm not as well versed in all the intracacies of each company, but he is. Yes you could start out at more. Do you have the ability to get exclusive leads and a guarantee of $100k your first year, though? From the feedback I've received from my friends in the business, I don't see that as being the case.

One poster said that the training class is required. It is not. Your manager may say you must go, but you do not have to go through the training to get appointed. I did not do the training or boot camp.

No company is perfect. My husband and I have been entreprenuers most of our lives and run other businesses and those weren't perfect either. We just needed something that didn't have a steep learning curve that we could just get up and go and start selling. This has fit the bill nicely for us and we are able to feel good about doing good for people.

One poster said that they called into a call and heard someone talking about "crazy money." You know, she talks like that in person and on every call. That's just the way she is. I don't want to let that deter me in making a significant income for my family in a relatively short period of time, though.

The lady who talks about "crazy money" leads the Butcher Group. You can see what she means below for July 09:

[COLOR=blue]1st Place[/COLOR] Personal Producer
-Simeon G. = [COLOR=red]$61,163!![/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]1st Place[/COLOR] Agency Leader
-The Butcher Group = [COLOR=red]$497,370!![/COLOR]

There are tons of producers in the company. Just to give a sample for August 09:

Month-To-Date Leaders

1. [COLOR=red]Larry J.[/COLOR][COLOR=red]$55,235[/COLOR]2. JC D.$52,0673. Timothy M.$47,2044. Simeon G.$37,2085. Patrick S.$33,4656. Wai-Ming W.$30,8387. William M.$30,8378. Timothy W.$30,7659. Patricia A.$30,07310. Randy J.$29,12311. Sterling W.$28,89412. Michael S.$28,13113. Edward S.$26,71914. Debora S.$26,25015. Frances P.$25,76216. Secelie D.$23,91117. Verena S.$23,29518. Fred E.$23,27819. Sheila M.$23,17220. Julianna J.$22,72321. Jill L.$22,57822. Karen D.$22,31023. Harold (Pete) A.$21,70824. Cornell A.$21,19625. Jack S.$20,977

Anyway, for anyone looking into this opportunity, I just wanted them to have this information to help balance the picture.
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