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Old 08-13-2008, 11:25 AM   #1
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I’ve been told and I have read several places online, that it takes a good three years to build a good book of business when you’re first starting out. I.e. 200+ clients, not having to prospect anymore. Any truth to this?

Because three years from now if my book isn’t a third of that and I’m still chasing down leads that only understand Russian, I’m packing up my gf, my guitars and guns and I'm buying an indy agency somewhere in the Midwest. I've already got the paperwork together to become an non-resident producer out there.

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Old 08-13-2008, 11:35 AM   #2
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Prospecting never ends. But it gets a bit easier as you go along.
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It never ends. Just remember that second year commissions are around one third of first year. You alway need fresh clients in order to maintain the level of your pay cheque.
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:22 PM   #4
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I was told something when I started in the business a long time ago;

Successful Agents are;
  • Not all are great presenters
  • Not all are great closers
  • They are not all organized
  • [COLOR=red]THEY ARE ALL GREAT... PROSPECTORS[/COLOR]
[COLOR=black]Prospecting really never ends. When you start out your time should be spent 80%+ prospecting. After you build a book that could go down to 25%+. But I believe you will always need to bring in new clients and add to your book.[/COLOR]

Regarding Prospecting- I hear some gurus selling programs for $500 and up to share all the secrets of selling and building a business over the phone. There is no secret to that.
  • Have a streamline system preferably web based
  • Have a standardized system that works
  • Have a crucial supply of exclusive leads
  • Have high commision contracts
  • Have support wilth following up written business
Posture on the Phone
Posture is not an attitude- That is a myth!
Posture is automatically created when you have more leads to handle than you have time. When you are in lead prosperity, your attitude will change and you no longer sound desperate over the phone. Lead poverty will sink you fast!
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:25 PM   #5
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I appreciate all that. Web Based....oh boy, getting lost in the sea of insurance websites: not! But thanks for all the rest of the info.
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:27 PM   #6
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200 clients within 3 years is quite do able without even really working hard. But you must work smart.

If you work 50 weeks per year and get 1.3 sales a week, that's 200 clients after three years. I have agents getting 1 sale per day.

If it took me that long I would switched careers a long time ago. So it won't take you that long.
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Old 08-13-2008, 12:37 PM   #7
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I'll take that under advisement Mr. Quint. 1.3 sales a week I can do. Despite what some folks on this forum may think about only getting one lead a day and loss ratios and all that other negative jargon.

Scream for me Long Beach! No, wait that's California thanks to Mr. Dickenson. Long Beach NY, nice area, so many lights on that main drag mate....one every 50' is totally unacceptable.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Rick View Post
I’ve been told and I have read several places online, that it takes a good three years to build a good book of business when you’re first starting out. I.e. 200+ clients, not having to prospect anymore. Any truth to this? Because three years from now if my book isn’t a third of that and I’m still chasing down leads that only understand Russian, I’m packing up my gf, my guitars and guns and I'm buying an indy agency somewhere in the Midwest. I've already got the paperwork together to become an non-resident producer out there.

-Crazy Rick
Crazy, you will never be able to stop prospecting. You may be able to employ different methods of prospecting than you use now but it MUST continue. Your question may indicate a wrong mindset for this business. I think we need a long term horizon and a commitment to making it work no matter what. A newby without that is going to have a difficult course.

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Old 08-13-2008, 12:46 PM   #9
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NEVER!

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Old 08-13-2008, 12:59 PM   #10
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Aaaah, look. I was looking forward to my mentor's words coming true. "Rick, after about two years, you won't have to prospect really anymore. This is a referral business. Things fall into place quicker than you can imagine." What I got out of that was: In three years: 25% prospecting, no more 80%.

I was out the other day and in walked into an acquaintance I knew from way back. Here's how it went: "Hey! How have you been?! Do you have Life Insurance?" He replied "I do, thru my school." Ok, well, you could always use more and I'll bet it's Term. "You maybe right, I'll look it up. I'm really concerned about my retirement though. My co-workers are always asking me what I have put away and I tell them, nothing" Ok, since you're a professor I can recommend a 403b or even a fixed Annuity. "What's that?" Etc, etc...That's not prospecting to me. Calling warm leads, anticipating they're just shopping around is.

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Old 08-13-2008, 01:08 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Crazy Rick View Post
I was out the other day and in walked into an acquaintance I knew from way back. Here's how it went: "Hey! How have you been?! Do you have Life Insurance?" He replied "I do, thru my school." Ok, well, you could always use more and I'll bet it's Term.
OMG.

This is the kind of stuff that has given insurance agents the reputation they've acquired over the years...

Pretty soon when an "acquaintance" sees you coming, they'll turn and RUN the other way.
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Old 08-13-2008, 01:38 PM   #12
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I ran into that problem, where my friends and acquaintances wouldn't return my calls and would basically avoid me until someone brought it to my attention that i was basically trying to sell to anyone i got within five feet of. Now if your friends come to you...game on!!
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:02 PM   #13
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I was out the other day and in walked into an acquaintance I knew from way back. Here's how it went: "Hey! How have you been?! Do you have Life Insurance?" He replied "I do, thru my school." Ok, well, you could always use more and I'll bet it's Term. "You maybe right, I'll look it up.

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Never solicit your friends and family when you become an agent! That they obviously know you've become an agent is a "duh" statement. If they want to contact you they will.

Your friends and even family members may not want you to know details regarding their health. You think your high school buddy wants to tell you about his wife's cervical cyst? Maybe one of your relatives had a DUI they don't want to discuss?

Leave them alone

If you want to make sure you stop getting calls from your friends - go pitch 'em on insurance.
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Originally Posted by moonlightandmargaritas View Post
OMG.

This is the kind of stuff that has given insurance agents the reputation they've acquired over the years...

Pretty soon when an "acquaintance" sees you coming, they'll turn and RUN the other way.

LOL... well said
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I'll take that under advisement Mr. Quint. 1.3 sales a week I can do. Despite what some folks on this forum may think about only getting one lead a day and loss ratios and all that other negative jargon.

Scream for me Long Beach! No, wait that's California thanks to Mr. Dickenson. Long Beach NY, nice area, so many lights on that main drag mate....one every 50' is totally unacceptable.
That is true, way too many lights, that's why I drive on the boardwalk, LOL.
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...and when you're at social events - leave it the frick at home. No one at the pig roast wants to get your card...trust me.

I can't go to any one of these events without some douche bag hitting me up to become one of their clients. Christ - crack a beer and grab a burger.
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I never understood the "until you learn what you're doing, practice on friends and relatives" concept. That must suck.
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Never solicit your friends and family when you become an agent! That they obviously know you've become an agent is a "duh" statement. If they want to contact you they will.

Your friends and even family members may not want you to know details regarding their health. You think your high school buddy wants to tell you about his wife's cervical cyst? Maybe one of your relatives had a DUI they don't want to .
Indeed. Also, some of your friends and relatives are also crappy clients. You just dont know it yet. You have a relaxed coffee with them and it makes it easier to set things in motion. However, when they never get around to completing the paramed or signing the papers to transfer funds for the annuity it can get old. Then you have to either move the transaction forward or close it down somehow.

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Do you still do that belly button trick?

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