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Old 06-13-2007, 01:01 PM   #1
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Ive Been Told That Buying A List And Cold Calling Is The Cheapest Most Effective Way To Get Leads So Where Does Everyone Buy Their List From And What Are The Specifics Of Their Lists (ex. Age Income)
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:01 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by naddy512 View Post
Ive Been Told That Buying A List And Cold Calling Is The Cheapest Most Effective Way To Get Leads So Where Does Everyone Buy Their List From And What Are The Specifics Of Their Lists (ex. Age Income)
If money is tight try goleads.com or referenceusa and use the print screen option
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Old 06-13-2007, 09:04 PM   #3
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Goleads seems expensive. 500 names for $150. YOu can get 1000 names for $60 at most places.
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Old 06-13-2007, 09:10 PM   #4
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What about W.S. Pontoon or wontoon ???? it is something like that.
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Old 06-13-2007, 10:39 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by senior-advisor-indiana View Post
What about W.S. Pontoon or wontoon ???? it is something like that.
Do they come with rice and an egg roll?

I have had good luck with Lead Concepts, www.leadconsepts.com

Their lists are usually up to date with phone and address.

Not all lists are created equal.
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Old 06-13-2007, 10:48 PM   #6
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I use goleads and I use their monthly option. It's $9.95/month and you can download basically as many names as you want. You can filter them based on SIC codes, zip, state, employer size, etc. Only thing that sucks is there isn't a way to print the entire list. You have to use their software to view the contacts, and can't view the entire list at once... but, I still find it to be the most economical way to start calling business owners.
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Frank, I am not sure about the rice and egg rolls, but I am sure that if you cant help me find a good list, you might be having the poo poo platter in a brown paper bag
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:07 PM   #8
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By the way Frank, I believe you mean www.leadconcepts.com , You spelled it wrong. Yeah yeah, I know, you owe me one.
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Originally Posted by nate124 View Post
I use goleads and I use their monthly option. It's $9.95/month and you can download basically as many names as you want. You can filter them based on SIC codes, zip, state, employer size, etc. Only thing that sucks is there isn't a way to print the entire list. You have to use their software to view the contacts, and can't view the entire list at once... but, I still find it to be the most economical way to start calling business owners.
I'm not sure what you mean when you say "there isn't a way to print the entire list". You can print anything that appears on your monitor. For example, if I wanted to print everything I am looking at now I would hit the "Print Screen SysRq" button on my keyboard, open Word and hit the hit the "Ctrl" key and the letter "V" on my keyboard.

I'm sure there are many different ways of doing that.
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Originally Posted by senior-advisor-indiana View Post
By the way Frank, I believe you mean www.leadconcepts.com , You spelled it wrong. Yeah yeah, I know, you owe me one.
That was just a test to see if you were paying attention. There will be a pop quiz on all this information later.
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:19 PM   #11
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So can anyone tell me how much Leadconcepts charges per thousand for only the list? They seem only to give pricing on mailings per thousand.
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Originally Posted by Frank Stastny View Post
That was just a test to see if you were paying attention. There will be a pop quiz on all this information later.
I think I am prepared.
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Originally Posted by senior-advisor-indiana View Post
I think I am prepared.
Let's hope so, your GPA needs all he help it can get.
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:51 PM   #14
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HAHA Frank.

James, I am not sure how much lead concepts charge but I am pretty sure that most places charge around $65 per thousand.
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Originally Posted by senior-advisor-indiana View Post
HAHA Frank.

James, I am not sure how much lead concepts charge but I am pretty sure that most places charge around $65 per thousand.
Don't look for the cheapest place, look for the source that is going to have the most updated list and not names and phone numbers of people who moved or died five years ago. You only get what you pay for.

The biggest mistake I see a lot of agents making is always going after something that is free or the very least expensive. This is your business and how you make your money. If an agent is afraid to invest a couple of dollars in their business how can they expect to make any real money.

Buy quality, not price. I'll sell you a list for $30.00. It will also be several years old. However, it will have a lot of names and phone numbers on it if that is all you are looking for.

All lists are not created equal! Regardless of what the advertising says.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:36 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Frank Stastny View Post
Don't look for the cheapest place, look for the source that is going to have the most updated list and not names and phone numbers of people who moved or died five years ago. You only get what you pay for.

The biggest mistake I see a lot of agents making is always going after something that is free or the very least expensive. This is your business and how you make your money. If an agent is afraid to invest a couple of dollars in their business how can they expect to make any real money.

Buy quality, not price. I'll sell you a list for $30.00. It will also be several years old. However, it will have a lot of names and phone numbers on it if that is all you are looking for.

All lists are not created equal! Regardless of what the advertising says.
Talking technique number #2, reask the question untill you get a straight answer. So this is the question: "How much do they charge per thousand?". When in sales or any discussion many times people will not directly answer a question for various of reasons, you simply re-ask the question three times, then if you don't get an answer you say something like this, "I've ask you three times a question but you yet have answer it, so let me ask the question again". Most of the time people don't realize what they are doing and will usually give you a straight answer once you call them on it. Sometimes not, those are the people you want to stay away from, now this isn't directed at any one person (esp. you Frank) just found this an ideal example!
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Originally Posted by James View Post
Talking technique number #2, reask the question untill you get a straight answer. So this is the question: "How much do they charge per thousand?". When in sales or any discussion many times people will not directly answer a question for various of reasons, you simply re-ask the question three times, then if you don't get an answer you say something like this, "I've ask you three times a question but you yet have answer it, so let me ask the question again". Most of the time people don't realize what they are doing and will usually give you a straight answer once you call them on it. Sometimes not, those are the people you want to stay away from, now this isn't directed at any one person (esp. you Frank) just found this an ideal example!


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Originally Posted by James View Post
Talking technique number #2, reask the question untill you get a straight answer. So this is the question: "How much do they charge per thousand?". When in sales or any discussion many times people will not directly answer a question for various of reasons, you simply re-ask the question three times, then if you don't get an answer you say something like this, "I've ask you three times a question but you yet have answer it, so let me ask the question again". Most of the time people don't realize what they are doing and will usually give you a straight answer once you call them on it. Sometimes not, those are the people you want to stay away from, now this isn't directed at any one person (esp. you Frank) just found this an ideal example!
The example is excellent. Nothing annoys me more than someone who all but refuses to give you an answer.

Are you relating that to a conversation you had with Lead Concepts or because no one here knows how much they charge?

You have to call them to get a price. I believe they have different pricing depending on the kind of information you request. It's been a while since I last bought a list from them.

I have found them excellent to do business with.
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Not picking on anyone here, but for all the time it took to get a "gee, I don't really know" answer, wouldn't it have been quicker, easier, less frustrating just to have called Lead Concepts?
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Originally Posted by Frank Stastny View Post
The example is excellent. Nothing annoys me more than someone who all but refuses to give you an answer.

Are you relating that to a conversation you had with Lead Concepts or because no one here knows how much they charge?

You have to call them to get a price. I believe they have different pricing depending on the kind of information you request. It's been a while since I last bought a list from them.

I have found them excellent to do business with.
I have brought list from several differing companies but not with this one, tried to call them and yes it did seem kind of complexing, to say the least! Yet I'm assuming they are really wanting to do the mailings more so then just selling list, creating added value, I suppose?
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