It is best to begin clearing the slate. Palin probably is better off forming some kind of Focus on the Family type of national group and bubbling around the country getting rich and having fun doing that. Book deals, speaking fees. And why not? Any notion that this positions her for president is absurd, so, again, I think it is good to begin sorting some of this out.
On the other hand, this puts the focus on Romney as the de facto leader. And whether you like him or not, he is capable of slugging it out head to head with the Obama crew on the fiscal, corporate takeover, and health care issues. It is probably good for the Republicans to get Palin out of the way at this time.
Too bad we couldnt get Biden out of the way. I just heard that Obama put him in charge of the Iraq transition thing. I thought he was in charge of preserving the middle class. Whatever.
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When all else fails, blame "it" on pregnancy, menstruation, menopause, whatever. A pathetic, pathetic comment coming from a male pseudo-journalist.
He would have never said the same if it were a man.
Proof positive of sexual discrimination run rampant in our society. Do you think Rick Sanchez will get any form of wrist-slap? I doubt it.
Every women's organization, and men's organization who believes in equality (are you out there, you liberal Democrats?) should be outraged and ashamed of his comments.
When all else fails, blame "it" on pregnancy, menstruation, menopause, whatever. A pathetic, pathetic comment coming from a male pseudo-journalist.
He would have never said the same if it were a man.
Proof positive of sexual discrimination run rampant in our society. Do you think Rick Sanchez will get any form of wrist-slap? I doubt it.
Every women's organization, and men's organization who believes in equality (are you out there, you liberal Democrats?) should be outraged and ashamed of his comments.
I'm waiting....
I was noticing the other day that Michelle looked like a slutty pole dancer who got kicked off the Rutgers women's basketball team.
Oh..oh..excuse me. I just realized how offensive that sounds to a woman trying to get ahead in this world and gain some respect. I was confused because when Letterman said that Palin looked "like a slutty stewardess" it was considered humor and not a single women's group spoke out on it.
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Guess the paternity test proves Todd is the father of Bristol's baby.
Too sudden for no scandal.
Speaking of paternity tests, how is John Edwards coming along with his? I am sure that he and Miss Hunter and their child will all be happy after Elizabeth is gone.
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Well you know, John Edwards does travel a bit. He might pull a Billy Mays and actually exit stage left before his wife. After all, it would be the best way for Elizabeth to get her revenge!
Yep, I think I hear them crickets coming from the women's rights groups....
I actually agree with Winter's comment that ' it is good to get Palin out of the way for Republicans' ... she is not nationally electorable. Unfortunately neither is Mitt Romney ... it will be a long time before Americans admire CEOs ...
But at another point she invoked a military quotation, misattributing it to Gen. Douglas MacArthur, in what seemed to be an effort to wave aside any suggestion that she was abandoning the fight. “He said, ‘We’re not retreating; we are advancing in another direction,’ ” she said. (The remark was actually said by Maj. Gen. Oliver Prince Smith.)
Romney? A Mormon? Oh yeah, you Christians are gonna love him! If he couldn't beat the idiot McCain (with his vast check book) in the last primary go-around, what makes you think he can win next time? What will he run on... a record of doing WHAT the previous four years? Oh yeah... there was that Olympics back in what... the 70s? Oh... and isn't he the guy who gave you the Mass. health care finance system you all love so much?
You guys need a Reagan, not a Romney. The problem is you don't have a governor or a senator with any stature or charisma. Maybe a "Clinton" will emerge in the next couple of years from some backwater state, but if so he or she better have some dynamite communication abilities... because he or she will be running against an incumbent president who does. And the only way to beat an incumbent is to have superior communication skills... witness Reagan and Clinton. A "Mondale-Dole" is not going to do it for you.
So far your best shot is the guy from Louisiana, but we saw him under pressure back in January... and it was not impressive. (It actually was painful to watch.)
Except for Texas and Florida, you don't have a senator or a governor or a state legislature majority in any of the populous mid-Atlantic or west coast states. You barely break even in the rust-belt and the mountain states. You can't elect a president from West Virginia and the old Confederacy.
You gotta pray your hearts out that Obama fails and that you can also come up with someone who can walk, talk, and chew gum at the same time... something the bimbo Palin can't do... nor can any other Republican with any credibility do.
Maybe your best bet is the pill-popping Rush Limbaugh? Newt might have a shot... so long as no one brings up the story of his divorce... to say nothing of his ethics record as House speaker.
Maybe the Reps should run a ticket of Moonlight and Winter. They would at least get the vote of this venue... as well as all the other racists, homophobes, members of the Aryan Nation, the KKK, the Huckabee Jew-haters, and of course the Wall Street investment bankers. There might be a base there large enough to beat a black guy if you organize them well. Send them all a black shirt and a red armband and get them to burn a few churches, books, and maybe a state capitol or two. Worked for another guy in German back in the 1930s.
Romney? A Mormon? Oh yeah, you Christians are gonna love him! If he couldn't beat the idiot McCain (with his vast check book) in the last primary go-around, what makes you think he can win next time? What will he run on... a record of doing WHAT the previous four years? Oh yeah... there was that Olympics back in what... the 70s? Oh... and isn't he the guy who gave you the Mass. health care finance system you all love so much?
You guys need a Reagan, not a Romney. The problem is you don't have a governor or a senator with any stature or charisma. Maybe a "Clinton" will emerge in the next couple of years from some backwater state, but if so he or she better have some dynamite communication abilities... because he or she will be running against an incumbent president who does. And the only way to beat an incumbent is to have superior communication skills... witness Reagan and Clinton. A "Mondale-Dole" is not going to do it for you.
So far your best shot is the guy from Louisiana, but we saw him under pressure back in January... and it was not impressive. (It actually was painful to watch.)
Except for Texas and Florida, you don't have a senator or a governor or a state legislature majority in any of the populous mid-Atlantic or west coast states. You barely break even in the rust-belt and the mountain states. You can't elect a president from West Virginia and the old Confederacy.
You gotta pray your hearts out that Obama fails and that you can also come up with someone who can walk, talk, and chew gum at the same time... something the bimbo Palin can't do... nor can any other Republican with any credibility do.
Maybe your best bet is the pill-popping Rush Limbaugh? Newt might have a shot... so long as no one brings up the story of his divorce... to say nothing of his ethics record as House speaker.
Maybe the Reps should run a ticket of Moonlight and Winter. They would at least get the vote of this venue... as well as all the other racists, homophobes, members of the Aryan Nation, the KKK, the Huckabee Jew-haters, and of course the Wall Street investment bankers. There might be a base there large enough to beat a black guy if you organize them well. Send them all a black shirt and a red armband and get them to burn a few churches, books, and maybe a state capitol or two. Worked for another guy in German back in the 1930s.
The Republicans have problems for sure. On the other hand Democrats elected a totally inexperienced, unknown as President so you never know what can develop.
Also Al, I am not exactly sure that the rest of the country is receptive to taking advice from you libs in Califonia now a/k/a Tent City. You have to ask yourslelf now whether you actually won or lost by electing all those libs year after year. Same question the country will be asking about Obama and the Senate in the years to come. It's a nice ride while it lasts.
When are you moving out of California? Now that all the libs have pooped in their own next it is time to move back to New York isnt it. You know you have been thinking about it. Fess up.
Might we be reminded that the "Wall Street Investment Bankers" are primarily democrat...including Bernie Madoff. Well, Obama will get his chance to pardon him...
Whatever excuse the media or Palin gives, the real reason she's stepping down is due to her daughters. They have been attacked by both the media and comedians and I think she's leaving the public spotlight forever just because of that reason.
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Healthagent, you have to admit if she is resigning for reasons of cheapshots against her family, that is nothing but weakness. I suspect the game got too rough for her; her popularity plummetted and her state is now going through some fiscal issues.
Something tells me there's more to the story ...
And in hindsite ... General fortitude, Obama and Biden are much stronger than McCain and Palin ...
Whatever excuse the media or Palin gives, the real reason she's stepping down is due to her daughters. They have been attacked by both the media and comedians and I think she's leaving the public spotlight forever just because of that reason.
I disagree. Palin has been in public life for a long time and Alaska politics is pretty "rough and tumble" (as are Alaskans!) Her kids are used to media abuse.
This is all about the money. She can command $50,000 per speech, perhaps more. She is easily the most dynamic speaker the Reps have (although she is probably the dumbest.)
Let's face it, who besides her and Rush accurately speak for the vast majority of right-wing, born-again, homophobic, xenophobic Reps out there? It's obviously not Romney or the LA gov.
She is going to try the Romney/Nixon/Reagan "I'll run while out of office" strategy. It seems to work in the Rep party. I'm trying to think of any out-of-office candidate that won (or even ran) in the Dem party.
Come Christmas she will be a very wealthy woman and over the next couple of years will be able to amass a large "war chest" (to go with her own chest?) that she can use to "buy" the support of other Reps who ARE in office and want to stay there. She will stump for them... but will keep a part of the proceeds for herself.
If Obama is still popular (as Clinton was) after the first term, the Rep nomination won't be worth more than a bucket of warm spit (to paraphrase a Texas democrat of years gone by) and she becomes what is known in politics as a "sacrificial lamb" like Goldwater of '64 and Dole of '96 (and Mondale of '84 and Dukakis of '88 on the Dem side.)
If Obama is not popular (like Carter in '80, Bush in '92) and the Rep nomination is actually worth something... Palin does not have a chance. She is just too stupid to take on a Romney or the LA gov. or the Minn. gov. or anyone in the Rep party with half a brain (not that there are too many... but I do give credit that there are a few.. not that anyone in that hayseed party will listen to them!)
Palin knows she has 3 years to make a financial killing and she is going to go for it. And I said she was dumb? Like a fox? She's going to get on the huckster circuit and the yokels who make up the vast right wing will dump mucho dollars into her lap. (It's probably the closest any born-again "praise the lord" Rep. gets to "the lap" of a really hot babe!)
Ask Winter if girls who join Young Republicans put out? (Yeah, like you don't know that answer?)
Palin knows she has 3 years to make a financial killing and she is going to go for it. And I said she was dumb? Like a fox?
Ask Winter if girls who join Young Republicans put out?
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Al read my earlier post so therefore has given a correct answer here.
Palin is making about 120K as governor. A bus driver in New York City makes about 95K.
She has no chance of becoming president and could not hold up anyway. Even if she did (which she didnt), she just killed it. Her resume is already too thin, and by quitting she just made it thinner. Due to both national and in-state scrutiny and dirty politics she has nothing to gain in Alaska for the remainder of her term other than dodging false ethic claims and answering questions about whether she uses a state car to drive her kids to school. No fun and gets her nowhere.
She has, nevertheless, gotten tremendous mileage out of being governor of a very remote state if you overlook all the bumps in the road. She is both a hot ticket and a big ticket item now. Instead of being beaten or tossed out on some political charge, she is basically leaving without scandal and with a tremendous business machine in the form of Sarah Palin, Inc with all its book deals and speaking engagement etc. Just one scandal or the voters beginning to look at some other republicans wistfully and her time in the sun will crash. In addition, she is a very attactive woman but she is 45. Sometime in the next few years the sizzle on her steak will begin to smolder just a little. She will still be attactive but cannot hump the glamor aspect of it all as easily. In other words, time is of the essence.
So, she could have taken the road to the left and stayed in office and leave in a short while after fighting about her state expense account and worrying if she has enough money to buy a house at the end of her term, or she can take the road to the right and be worth ten million in that same time period, plus position herself to head up some national organization, perhaps of her own creation, that will make her a political force but untouchable by voters and political hacks, all while continuing to rake in the money.
She will keep the 2012 possibility alive because it adds to the sizzle on her steak but that is headed nowhere and she knows it.
Good move on her part. Rough, but good.
It was very clear to me early on that Huckabee was playing the same game when he fought to the end in the primary. He was positioning himself as some kind of crusader that would live on as tv personality, head of some religious organization, or just public figure on the speaking circuit. And he has done just that. At the same time, it does not close the door to political re-entry because it preserves the name recognition. Another good move.
Let's face it, who besides her and Rush accurately speak for the vast majority of right-wing, born-again, homophobic, xenophobic Reps out there? It's obviously not Romney or the LA gov.
I love the way liberals always put anyone who disagrees with them into the same box. It might interest you to know that I might arguably fit 2 of your box categories but not the other two. And here is a hint: I sometimes think Rush is a bit pink when it come down to it.
And knowing the LA guy personally, I have to agree that he might not have what it takes to be President. Although he does have it over Obama about 50,000 percent. Obama is a cheap politician with absolutely no concept of what this country is about nor does he have a clue as to what made it great and what will be necessary to keep it great. It is now absolutely clear that he was listenting to all of those sermons.
I also agree that the Repubs have made some pretty miserable choices when it comes to selecting a candidate. What? Dole is the best we have? What? McCain is the best we have? This has to change if we are ever going to have a chance of undoing the mindless march Congress has us on.
There are going to be a good number of these monkeys trying to hide under their desks when a couple of years from now the voters back home start asking questions like "Why would you even consider voting on something you had not read?"
IThere are going to be a good number of these monkeys trying to hide under their desks when a couple of years from now the voters back home start asking questions like "Why would you even consider voting o"
A couple of years or a couple of days- whichever comes first. Look no further than your own state to see how some of the dems are hunkering down to face the voters. Democrat Mary Landrieu voted against cap and tax and has stated that she is against the public health care option. Apparently she would rather be on the right side of LA voters than Obama when push comes to shove. Funny how that goes.
Yeh. I know someone such as Al will pipe up and say that the southern dems are always more conservative anyway - but the dems are still counting on them when they do the math to conclude that they have the supermajority arent they. Well, don't count on them.
Just read earlier today that Biden said he would not rule out Stimulus II. WTF? based on what, the success of Stimulus I? Sell that one to the voters.
Whatever excuse the media or Palin gives, the real reason she's stepping down is due to her daughters. They have been attacked by both the media and comedians and I think she's leaving the public spotlight forever just because of that reason.
Who abandons their Post as Governor to make $50k a speech ... doesnt sound like somebody I'd want leading my Party or Country. But then again if youre a hard line republican I guess those glasses can be pretty rosey.
And knowing the LA guy personally, I have to agree that he might not have what it takes to be President. Although he does have it over Obama about 50,000 percent. Obama is a cheap politician with absolutely no concept of what this country is about nor does he have a clue as to what made it great and what will be necessary to keep it great. It is now absolutely clear that he was listenting to all of those sermons.
Obama has been on the job, five and a half months. This country was a mess when he took office. It will take time to turn things around. He is going to be a good president.
Obama has been on the job, five and a half months. This country was a mess when he took office. It will take time to turn things around. He is going to be a good president.
Hmmm. Five and half months. Bush had only been President for 9 months when 9/11 happened. Speaking of inheriting messes from previous presidents. If Bubba had kept his pants on and killed Osama Bin Laden when we had him in our crosshairs, it might have gone differently. Talking with our enemies? Iran and North Korea? Not so much, eh.
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