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Old 08-17-2008, 07:35 PM   #21
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The biggest issue is Americans fail to understand the concept of inflation. In 1981 Gasoline adjusted for inflation was around $3.50/gallon. This latest gas frenzy really upset me because I didn't see anyone change their lifestyle, they just complained how high gas was.

Gas is falling FAST - we will be under $100/barrel in no time, however it takes a while to trickle to the pump. You don't hear much on the news about gas prices falling - it is all negative.

There are a lot of items that are dirt cheap now - such as computers. You can get a half way descent laptop for $500 to $700 on sale - try that in 1985, not happening.

Even cars - 30X more reliable and safe then 20 years ago. What does a new Camry start at $16k? Maybe. That is a steal compared to the crap cars of 20 years ago.

People can afford health insurance (in general) they just choose not to buy it, and for good reason when the government will reward your irresponsibility anyhow.
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Old 08-17-2008, 09:10 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by TXINSURANCE View Post

People can afford health insurance (in general) they just choose not to buy it, and for good reason when the government will reward your irresponsibility anyhow.
Very true, many people choose to do other things with their money. They have enough for Lotto tickets, UFC championship tix and Nascar but health insurance, who needs that?
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:08 AM   #23
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Rob - lets leave NASCAR out of this ok?

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Originally Posted by robliano View Post
Very true, many people choose to do other things with their money. They have enough for Lotto tickets, UFC championship tix and Nascar but health insurance, who needs that?
Rob, no offense but change your avatar.
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:37 AM   #25
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Rob, no offense but change your avatar.
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Rob, no offense but change your avatar.
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:24 AM   #27
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No I am not.

All I have to do is look at the current state of Medicaid Medicare. Recently there was a bill on Medicare that was going to reduce what doc. could charge by another 10%.
I think this was turned down?
Anyways the Doc. all stated they would not be able to treat patients at a profit with that deep of discount.

Our current system can be fixed. There would just have to be big changes.
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Originally Posted by ABC View Post
No I am not.

All I have to do is look at the current state of Medicaid Medicare. Recently there was a bill on Medicare that was going to reduce what doc. could charge by another 10%.
I think this was turned down?
Anyways the Doc. all stated they would not be able to treat patients at a profit with that deep of discount.

Our current system can be fixed. There would just have to be big changes.
Actually, it was simply delayed for 18 months. In Jan 2010, there is an automatic 21% reduction (including the 10.6% they just delayed) unless Congress prints more money to pay for it.

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Old 08-18-2008, 03:16 PM   #29
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Actually, it was simply delayed for 18 months. In Jan 2010, there is an automatic 21% reduction (including the 10.6% they just delayed) unless Congress prints more money to pay for it.

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21% is a huge discount. There is no way a small practice will be able to invest in new technology with those discounts.
Maybe that will help lower the cost for new medical technology.

21% discount tells me that the Docs will not be taking on any new medicare patients. Medicare people will wait months to see a doc.

We need to change how we pay the docs. I think we should have pay determined by quality of care.
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Unless the docs find new loopholes to bill extra tests and re-coop some of the money they are loosing.
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21% discount tells me that the Docs will not be taking on any new medicare patients. Medicare people will wait months to see a doc.

We need to change how we pay the docs.
It's already happening.

PCP's are getting out of the Medicare game and setting up cash only practices and flat fee practices. The concierge style practices charge $1500 or so for "unlimited" office visits (exclusive of lab, X-ray).

Others are refusing to accept new Medicare patients . . . something that will only get worse as baby boomers turn 65. Factor in the number of med school grads who are opting for specialties over primary care and you have a train wreck ready to happen.

Oh, and let's not forget the $74 TRILLION Medicare unfunded liability . . .
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If people would only take their career, finances and health seriously . . .
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Originally Posted by midwestbroker View Post
re-coop some of the money they are loosing.
Alright, I can't take it anymore.

"Re-coop" (re-coup) I can deal with, but "loosing" is becoming way too prevalent...

It is LOSING. One "o" !!!

Whew, feel much better now.
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Originally Posted by moonlightandmargaritas View Post
Alright, I can't take it anymore.

"Re-coop" (re-coup) I can deal with, but "loosing" is becoming way too prevalent...

It is LOSING. One "o" !!!

Whew, feel much better now.
Thanks. I was loosing my mind over that!

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Sorry it was late and I was ignoring the squiggly lines under the words telling me that I am an idiot.

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