Can You Recommend a Good Company to Work For?

HelGr

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Can anyone recommend a good Medicare Supplements company that does business in (is looking to expand to) the States of WA and OR?

First, let me briefly tell you my story, so that you get a just picture of what I'm trying to ask here. At some point I used to sell for AFLAC, but then got out of the insurance market and worked as a sales and marketing rep for a painting/interior decorating company for the last 8 years - and have done VERY well on 100% commission.

Now that this company is closing and I have to move on, I'm thinking of getting back to selling insurance - particularly Medicare Supplements or Auto (the products that I have a personal preference for) -- simply because I know that, unlike with many other sales positions (unfortunately), I'd be guaranteed a legitimate product.

But here is the catch - and here lies my question: when I worked for AFLAC, I discovered that mining the gold of business from cold leads took wa-a-a-y too much time (I'm sure you all know this - and if the first term that pops up in your mind is "survival year", you're still with me). My ratios were two - three appointments in an 8 hr day calling from a phone book. So, even with 30-50% closing ratio (which is estimating quite high) you're talking $50/day, on individual policies. Not gonna cut it. Besides, I have a feeling that cold calling is dead: there is a great degree of fatigue among the people who have been bugged overly too much in the recent years, plus I believe I heard that it is becoming illegal to do so for Medicare.

So, here I am: I do good in sales (I actually was getting 30-50% closing on my home improvement presentations), but I'm not a cold caller - I guess. I don't mind doing it - but I just can't see any money in it. Buying leads is a scary business to me: I'd be too new to the industry now that I'm thinking to return to it after 8 yrs, and I'm leery of being easily scammed and buy 2 yr old cold leads for a top dollar.

As I started looking for a company to sell for, I'm discovering that insurance companies tend to fall into two categories: 1) Just like AFLAC, they expect you to build your own business around their products -- and I cannot affort this right now. I've stayed with a sinking ship too long, and I cannot afford a survival year at this point
2) They'll give you leads, but want you to travel miles away for days on end (I guess to make sure you'll actually work).

Can anyone recommend a good insurance company that provides enough lead generation support, without trying to take advantage of you by having you buy their leads while paying minimum commissions (as in some cases that I've run into), and yet have respect for your business-building abilities and previous successful sales experience that shows that you know not to burn good leads?
 
Where did you hear that cold calling is dead?
It's not my favorite thing to do, but if I'm slow on leads that month I do quite well on cold calling and it's free.

Also, it's not illegal to cold call for medicare supplements and it will be 100 times easier to sell in this business than aflac.

This is all assuming you do NOT live in FL. I hear there's a plethora of rogue agents here...especially on the coast. :) I can't stress enough, stay away from my terr.......uhh, stay away from FL
 
Where did you hear that cold calling is dead?
It's not my favorite thing to do, but if I'm slow on leads that month I do quite well on cold calling and it's free.

Also, it's not illegal to cold call for medicare supplements and it will be 100 times easier to sell in this business than aflac.

This is all assuming you do NOT live in FL. I hear there's a plethora of rogue agents here...especially on the coast. :) I can't stress enough, stay away from my terr.......uhh, stay away from FL

It IS illegal in OHIO. The Socialist Buckeye State.
 
Can anyone recommend a good Medicare Supplements company that does business in (is looking to expand to) the States of WA and OR?

First, let me briefly tell you my story, so that you get a just picture of what I'm trying to ask here. At some point I used to sell for AFLAC, but then got out of the insurance market and worked as a sales and marketing rep for a painting/interior decorating company for the last 8 years - and have done VERY well on 100% commission.

Now that this company is closing and I have to move on, I'm thinking of getting back to selling insurance - particularly Medicare Supplements or Auto (the products that I have a personal preference for) -- simply because I know that, unlike with many other sales positions (unfortunately), I'd be guaranteed a legitimate product.

But here is the catch - and here lies my question: when I worked for AFLAC, I discovered that mining the gold of business from cold leads took wa-a-a-y too much time (I'm sure you all know this - and if the first term that pops up in your mind is "survival year", you're still with me). My ratios were two - three appointments in an 8 hr day calling from a phone book. So, even with 30-50% closing ratio (which is estimating quite high) you're talking $50/day, on individual policies. Not gonna cut it. Besides, I have a feeling that cold calling is dead: there is a great degree of fatigue among the people who have been bugged overly too much in the recent years, plus I believe I heard that it is becoming illegal to do so for Medicare.

So, here I am: I do good in sales (I actually was getting 30-50% closing on my home improvement presentations), but I'm not a cold caller - I guess. I don't mind doing it - but I just can't see any money in it. Buying leads is a scary business to me: I'd be too new to the industry now that I'm thinking to return to it after 8 yrs, and I'm leery of being easily scammed and buy 2 yr old cold leads for a top dollar.

As I started looking for a company to sell for, I'm discovering that insurance companies tend to fall into two categories: 1) Just like AFLAC, they expect you to build your own business around their products -- and I cannot affort this right now. I've stayed with a sinking ship too long, and I cannot afford a survival year at this point
2) They'll give you leads, but want you to travel miles away for days on end (I guess to make sure you'll actually work).

Can anyone recommend a good insurance company that provides enough lead generation support, without trying to take advantage of you by having you buy their leads while paying minimum commissions (as in some cases that I've run into), and yet have respect for your business-building abilities and previous successful sales experience that shows that you know not to burn good leads?


You are asking for a lot; provide leads and high commissions. Either you are going to have leads provided to you for free with a cut in commissions; or you are going to have generate your own leads with a higher commission rate.

Cold calling isn't dead, that is how I work. And, most of my business is the senior market.
 
You are asking for a lot; provide leads and high commissions. Either you are going to have leads provided to you for free with a cut in commissions; or you are going to have generate your own leads with a higher commission rate.

Exactly.


To the OP: You're always going to think you're getting taken advantage of because of the way you think your upline owes you something. Whether they do or do not, you'll be much happier if you join ILIAA.org and get your own training, then shop for high contracts. On ILIAA you can get all sorts of information about different lead generation ideas, product information, sales training, and support. If you're generating your own leads and are bringing your own support, you'll be able to get higher contracts because you'll deserve them. That's on the life side and to some degree the Medicare (I know they're building that side up).

On the Medicare itself, Frank Stastny has a great deal and will take a rookie Medicare agent from scratch and give them great contracts and training if you buy his software. Coincidentally, the software is actually a great idea and if it gets you even a single extra sale more than pays for itself.

Is there a reason you want to do Medicare? From what I understand the Medicare market in Washington is only a little better than the Medicare market in NY.
 
Thanks Josh, your 25 cents is in the mail.

Cold calling is very much alive and well, especially in the senior market. In fact, I believe that the senior market lends itself better to cold calling than any other insurance product.

There are types of insurance that I would never consider cold calling for, however, I have found Med Supps to be the perfect product. Almost like Med Supps were "invented" for agents to sell by cold calling.
 
Thanks Josh, your 25 cents is in the mail.

Cold calling is very much alive and well, especially in the senior market. In fact, I believe that the senior market lends itself better to cold calling than any other insurance product.

There are types of insurance that I would never consider cold calling for, however, I have found Med Supps to be the perfect product. Almost like Med Supps were "invented" for agents to sell by cold calling.

Talk to Frank he is one of your best sources of help but watch out for the goats.
 
There's not very much information on their website so why don't you enlighten us on what kind of "phenominal" contracts you got and who the "2 new Med Supp carriers" are.

All his posts are going to be deleted. By you quoting him, the spam will remain.

I suggest you edit your post to NOT quote him.

Rick
 
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