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You seem to have all of the answers. That's good.
$70 million doesn't seem like that much....anymore.
Just a guess, since I didn't get my commission from them this morning...bye-bye commission. I guess $208.66 is too much to Shenandoah Life....oh well, I've got plenty of forms to throw on my next pit-burning of leaves.
Time to replace...just call me flipper............
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I bet those policyholders won't miss this.....
"HOW DO I PRESENT A CLAIM FOR ANNUITY
SURRENDER?
Answer: Your annuity surrender should be presented in writing on the
form provided by the company for that purpose and signed by
the person entitled to payment. You should do so by mail.
However, you should note that a moratorium has been
temporarily imposed on such surrenders and no payment can
therefore be made at this time."...........
Uh...sorry friend that I see all of the time at my local Wal-Mart....no, you can't get your money. This is why I'm not in love with investing in insurance companies. Sorry...I don't trust them anymore.
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I knew Shenandoah was in trouble...they got downgraded....then OneAmerica was buying them....then the 11th of February they say no...the next day...Shenandoah is history.
Good post! And you're right...don't put all of your eggs in one-basket.
Reality...if M of O goes under, I'd be screwed, big-time.
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One more point....in the entire 2 links that Joe Moore provided, that are also available on the Shenandoah Life website...one thing that's never answered or even brought up...the agents that worked for this company and their commissions. Not a F'n word.
My point there Russ is that many agents should do more research into the companies they are doing business with. It was said in another thread that just because a company is the cheapest; does not make them the best. This is TRUE!
When the bond rating companies got into trouble for not properly rating bonds that was a sign.
Insurance companies have to buy investment grade bonds to add to their portfolio's. With this being said I will give you an example:
ABC company knows that they can only buy A or better bonds. ABC has several bonds that are maturing that they bought several years ago. They start looking for new bonds and call their Bond Wholesaler.
Bond Wholesaler gives them a list of A rated or better bonds and find that they can get better rates buying A rated bonds through Fannie and Freddie; these are called MBS (Mortgage Backed Securities). They buy them; and get a good rate of return. The better the return the cheaper the life insurance expense charges and better the interest rate on annuities are. As these charges are off set by the higher than expected return from the bonds.
A couple of years later they realize that their bond portfolio is in trouble, as they stop receiving their income. Those A rated bonds SHOULD have been given a grade of B. If they were in fact given a B rating they never would have bought them and included them in their bond portfolio. So who is to blame?
The government for making mortgage companies buy sub-prime mortgages?
The bond company for improperly rating the bonds?
In going back and reading some of your past posts you have complained about companies for the last two months. You gripe and complain about companies not paying you; and you are entitled to be angry. Now it is time to do something about it. You will see in the near future that more companies will be taken into receivership. Yes, when a company is taken into receivership they limit the withdrawal benefits of annuities.
Again this is an example; and there are many moving parts to this that I did not include.
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